Opinion Non-Crows AFL 6: This Is Getting Cruel

[Bearded Clam]

Geez Bevo is looking old…

 

[ABAB]

You draft elite midfielders first is what I’m saying.

You always draft best available talent with your early pick first, who would you have drafted instead of Thilthorpe, McDonald (who we were also linked to) or Rachele (who was mainly a small forward but "luckily" for us also played midfield and looks like he can develop into that elite midfielder).

 

[Danger in Texas]

Geez the dees can rip you apart quickly..

Remember disagreeing with you re: the potency of the Dees’ forward line

I was wrong, they’ve look super efficient in their forward line this year and tonight

 

[FR0GGY]

One team you don’t want to be missing may against would be the dogs, dees will be happy if they get a win without him.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Remember disagreeing with you re: the potency of the Dees’ forward line

I was wrong, they’ve look super efficient in their forward line this year and tonight

Missing their leading goal kicker too.

Is Fitsch injured?

 

[Scorpus]

Has there ever been a more boring commentator who says the bleeding obvious than Watson...

Jobe Watson?

He is the worst I've ever heard. Ever. He is woeful.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I wouldn't call gun KPD and ruckmen as "foot soldiers" and they rarely leave or traded even as FA. Jackson did but he already won a premiership and then got offer big money to go home.

McAsey the gun KPD

 

[daniel_4tw]

Has an AFL club ever sacked, or not extended a coach who played Finals?

Ken Hinkley is a career coach, and not old enough to retire. The notion of a hand over to Josh Carr is a fairy tale . No way he has agreed to that

They make Finals, he will coach till 2026.

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Pretty sure Grant Thomas was sacked for Ross Lyon after St Kilda made top 4.

 

[ABAB]

McAsey the gun KPD

Possibly would have been if he didn't get drafted interstate, we will never know but clearly he didn't have the desire to be a professional footballer after being drafted here. Apparently, was Talia like defender who can lock down KPF and intercept but a better kick and had the ability to play both ends. You do know there are "gun" midfielders drafted who are also bust as well.

 

[eathb]

Agreed. Not since I saw a 19/20 year old Buckley and Dangerfield have I seen a kid who is a certainty to be a superstar midfielder. In 2 years JHF, Rozee and Butters will be an elite midfield combination for 6 to 8 years.

I give myself a migraine every time I think that Ogilvie is still at the club making key decisions.

In regards to landing JHF it was always an almost impossible task. People forget that JHF and his management reached out to Port. Like no recruiting was done.

 

[FR0GGY]

In regards to landing JHF it was always an almost impossible task. People forget that JHF and his management reached out to Port. Like no recruiting was done.

Not according to tredders.

 

[GrommoT]

You draft elite midfielders first is what I’m saying.

Don't we need both?

We've been there - elite midfield in the 2000s but not a strong forward line and fell short. Then we had a very strong forward line but not a strong midfield in the 2010s and fell short (would have been different had Danger stayed).

Elite mids are much sooner to hit their peak than elite forwards so if we draft e-mids first, we end up wasting several years before the e-forwards catch up.

It was fortunate (or unfortunate) the year we bottomed out Thilly was available and that draft crop wasn't strong in mids available that year. Other years we were near bottom we didn't have the picks to get the elite seeming mids.

OTOH, we now have Rankine, Rachele, Soligo, Berry, Laird, Schoenberg, Pedlar, Dawson, Taylor (projecting very high). Then there are hints Nankervis, Dowling and Bond could have high ceiling potential as well.

If all these guys come on, we could have a very strong and deep midfield.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I’m sticking with my “the dees are the ones to beat this year”..

They are just relentless.

Looks like they have that 2021 hunger back.

 

[FR0GGY]

Don't we need both?

We've been there - elite midfield in the 2000s but not a strong forward line and fell short. Then we had a very strong forward line but not a strong midfield in the 2010s and fell short (would have been different had Danger stayed).

Elite mids are much sooner to hit their peak than elite forwards so if we draft e-mids first, we end up wasting several years before the e-forwards catch up.

It was fortunate (or unfortunate) the year we bottomed out Thilly was available and that draft crop wasn't strong in mids available that year. Other years we were near bottom we didn't have the picks to get the elite seeming mids.

OTOH, we now have Rankine, Rachele, Soligo, Berry, Laird, Schoenberg, Pedlar, Dawson, Taylor (projecting very high). Then there are hints Nankervis, Dowling and Bond could have high ceiling potential as well.

If all these guys come on, we could have a very strong and deep midfield.

None of these are elite midfielders, you surely have the chance of getting one by drafting one high up the chart.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I’m sticking with my “the dees are the ones to beat this year”..

They are just relentless.

Looks like they have that 2021 hunger back.

They certainly have the best turbo mode... to pile on goals in quick time.

 

[GreyCrow]

Pretty sure Grant Thomas was sacked for Ross Lyon after St Kilda made top 4.

6th and eliminated

 

[GrommoT]

None of these are elite midfielders, you surely have the chance of getting one by drafting one high up the chart.

Let's wait another couple of years to see how our boys turn out. I didn't say they were the seeming elites - my points were we didn't have the picks to get the standout mids at the recent drafts.

 

[FR0GGY]

6th and eliminated

At least he wasn’t bitter about it..

 

[Brett Cummings]

Bevo under pressure. Would like to try and get bazza to the club.

 

[FR0GGY]

Bevo under pressure. Would like to try and get bazza to the club.

The bloke that won’t leave home?

 

[Brett Cummings]

The bloke that won’t leave home?

I know its not very likely lol.

 

[ABAB]

Bevo under pressure. Would like to try and get bazza to the club.

He has been very lucky with F&S and NGA picks giving him a "free" pick 1 as well.

 

[FR0GGY]

Wow

 

[Bearded Clam]

Oliver is the king of the perfectly placed and weighted handball..

 

[GrommoT]

In regards to landing JHF it was always an almost impossible task. People forget that JHF and his management reached out to Port. Like no recruiting was done.

Imagine if North had accepted our reputed offer for pick 1 - it would have cost us Rachele and Soligo in 2021, Dowling and Bond in 2022, and our r1 pick this year (for Rankine) for JHF.

Given the way JHF seems so intent on getting to the PAPs, we could be having all sorts of drama right now with him trying to get to the PAPs that North had last year.