Opinion Non-Crows AFL 6: This Is Getting Cruel

[Ramify]

You might be a self appointed expert subject matter here but seem to be getting slightly confused with material facts, considering the documented abortion within a year of the previous birth.

“Six months after the birth of their child, Ian and Amy were shocked to find they were expecting again.”

So they ignored the request the first time and then followed through with the initial request some time down the track. Isn't that what Sanders is saying? It's the distance between request and compliance?

What am I missing? Were there follow up requests/pressure?

 

[Mutineer]

McStay McGone..

Worst kept secret official as Lions star departs... with rival in $3m box seat

Worst kept secret official as Lions star departs... with rival in $3m box seat

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[119others]

So they ignored the request the first time and then followed through with the initial request some time down the track. Isn't that what Sanders is saying? It's the distance between request and compliance?

What am I missing? Were there follow up requests/pressure?

Six months after the birth of their child, Ian and Amy were shocked to find they were expecting again. She explains the initial excitement she felt and says it "was quickly replaced with fear when I remembered the trauma we had just gone through bringing our previous baby into the world."

"I spoke to Ian and he became stressed immediately. Not because he wasn't a capable, beautiful father, but because we both knew what the reaction of the club would be," Amy says.

"I didn't want to lose Ian again. I needed him there with me and the kids and I didn't want to put his footy career at risk. [I felt like] Hawthorn always used that against us."
She resigned herself to a termination whose heartbreaking legacy now surrounds her in the form of pregnancy-themed artworks and textiles she has created as a means of processing her grief and guilt.

So they ignored the request the first time and then followed through with the initial request some time down the track. Isn't that what Sanders is saying? It's the distance between request and compliance?

What am I missing? Were there follow up requests/pressure?

Six months after the birth of their child, Ian and Amy were shocked to find they were expecting again. She explains the initial excitement she felt and says it "was quickly replaced with fear when I remembered the trauma we had just gone through bringing our previous baby into the world."

"I spoke to Ian and he became stressed immediately. Not because he wasn't a capable, beautiful father, but because we both knew what the reaction of the club would be," Amy says.

"I didn't want to lose Ian again. I needed him there with me and the kids and I didn't want to put his footy career at risk. [I felt like] Hawthorn always used that against us."
She resigned herself to a termination whose heartbreaking legacy now surrounds her in the form of pregnancy-themed artworks and textiles she has created as a means of processing her grief and guilt.


seems pretty obvious to me.they felt pressured to abort their second child based on the experience with their first. as per the above. getting pregnant 6 months after first bubs is born…not sure how much shorter “distance“ you and Sanders are referring to? It’s almost immediate.

sanders make some really interesting points and perspectiveS in this thread which I am enjoying reading (and learning from). Just think you guys have misread this part

 

[FR0GGY]

Are they finally admitting it?

 

[119others]

Are they finally admitting it?
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Look we all wish we were Geelong. But seriously how tightly is the salary cap actually policed these days and how loose are the rules re Billionaire patrons employing family and friends through direct or non direct means?

 

[Sanders]

I'm pretty sure you've had investigative journalists pursue you for a quote before, and I can't imagine they gave you an unlimited deadline before getting back to them ...

24 hours to respond to a journalist's question is very reasonable.

I’ve seen the full range of tricks, as you know, including the gotcha ones

Which this certainly was.

 

[Sanders]

The journalist has zero responsibilities beyond that - he's not their lawyer.

Let’s see. Is that the same zero responsibilities that Sam Maclure that demonstrated

The integrity of the story depends on the fact that the journalist has many responsibilities in the collection and presentation of the various elements

Let’s see how this part of things turns out, I reckon we haven’t heard the last

 

[Sanders]

Disagree. It's a long time ago and I'd have to go digging for a link, but my recollection is clear that what he actually said - not the way Jason Mifsud interpreted it - was not racist. It was blunt, and perhaps clumsy, but it was not racist.

Edit: Here's a link:

Sorry Rendell: I'm not racist

Comment an example of what could occur if AFL did not remedy high attrition rate of indigenous players.

www.theage.com.au

Maybe it wasn't a very, shall be say, diplomatic way to express himself, but it was not, as was alleged / implied at the time, a statement that he / the club would only recruit players with at least one white parent, it was a statement about what might happen if better mechanisms weren't put in place to support indigenous recruits.

Mifsud should have said "hang on a minute Matt, that's taking it a bit far" but instead he decided to go the "reporting for racism" route.

Not only was it not a line that he would not recruit such players, the proof is in the pudding

The most recent player Rendell had taken in the national draft prior to that comment was CEY, who possessed precise zero white parents

 

[Bay62]

I think journos only give someone 24 hours to respond because they can say they gave them a chance to comment without running the risk of losing the advantage of getting the story out quickly. Give the other person too much time and they might proactively go to the media and beat you to it, so you lose the power of a scoop

 

[kirky]

Allegedly Cyril Rioli's wife kept all the text messages sent to her via Hawthorn as well as ones sent to the other indigenous girlfriends.

That's nail in the coffin stuff if true.

That was being alluded to - that their is evidence but lets see what plays out.

Clarkson has had a reputation (punching walls etc), this attitude he has may not be a stretch as one thinks.

Again, this is like most things in life, who has the power?

 

[kirky]

The media linking the Hawthorn situation and the Crows Camp, as well as other incidents, seems fair to me. They involve serious cultural insensitivity at their core, as part of a clear pattern that exists not just in the AFL but in many of our systems.

Ours however wasn’t indigenous based - it was about insensitivity and use of personal information - as it impacted both indigenous and white.

 

[Bay62]

Over on the Port board, the Sack Hinkley thread keeps ticking along - but now with an added twist!

They’re thinking/hoping that Kenny might do a Bradbury and skate his way to a new job at Brisbane or NM as a result of the Hawthorn allegations

Suddenly he’s looking good!

 

[Bearded Clam]

Over on the Port board, the Sack Hinkley thread keeps ticking along - but now with an added twist!

They’re thinking/hoping that Kenny might do a Bradbury and skate his way to a new job at Brisbane or NM as a result of the Hawthorn allegations

Suddenly he’s looking good!

My god they are delusional.

there’s no way Kochhead let’s Ken walk after kochhead told the world that Ken is going nowhere..

Kochhead has far too big an ego to let that happen..he’d sooner sign ken up to another3 years before letting that happen..

 

[kirky]

Probably because his 4 year old twins were unsupervised in the pool.

Yes because the old couple would know that rule. FMD!

 

[Bay62]

My god they are delusional.

there’s no way Kochhead let’s Ken walk after kochhead told the world that Ken is going nowhere..

Kochhead has far too big an ego to let that happen..he’d sooner sign ken up to another3 years before letting that happen..

Ken will probably use the threat of this to get the three year extension!

 

[Bay62]

And imagine being a North supporter, you think you’re getting Clarko, you end up with Hinkley

 

[FR0GGY]

My god they are delusional.

there’s no way Kochhead let’s Ken walk after kochhead told the world that Ken is going nowhere..

Kochhead has far too big an ego to let that happen..he’d sooner sign ken up to another3 years before letting that happen..

Doesn’t hurt to let them get their hopes up every now and again.

 

[FR0GGY]

And imagine being a North supporter, you think you’re getting Clarko, you end up with Hinkley

Exactly how their recruiting has gone over the last few years.

 

[Samcro24]

North getting Clarko now probably not getting Clarko feels like something that would happen to us.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Doesn’t hurt to let them get their hopes up every now and again.

True. Yes. Very true…

 

[GrommoT]

Over on the Port board, the Sack Hinkley thread keeps ticking along - but now with an added twist!

They’re thinking/hoping that Kenny might do a Bradbury and skate his way to a new job at Brisbane or NM as a result of the Hawthorn allegations

Suddenly he’s looking good!

 

[BunjiMC]

I want Ken to go to Brisbane and win the flag in 2023.

 

[Redline]

FiveAA going back to taking 3AW coverage for non-Crows and Port games. SEN's coverage will now be exclusively on the narrowcast band.

Done Deal – FIVEAA Remains The Home Of AFL In Adelaide

FIVEAA has secured AFL radio broadcast rights for another two years in an exciting partnership with 3AW. LISTEN HERE: Will Goodings on FIVEAA Breakfast revealed during Friday’s Breaking @ 8...

www.fiveaa.com.au

This is good news. It is a significantly inferrior product. AFL nation also call too many games from the studio.3AW do it as well but not to the same extent.

Also need to bring back a pre game.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Let it never again be said that the media in this town is Crows leaning.

“INDEPENDENT” Daily my arse

Let’s get Malinauskas to be political editor while you’re at it

Divided we fall: Keeping the faith for Power's premiership push - InDaily

Is Port Adelaide flagging under the heavy expectation of "Chasing Greatness"? Michelangelo Rucci talks to the mission statement's author - now club CEO - about unity, division and direction in the drive for a premiership.

indaily.com.au

It’s actually quite a funny article. Everything’s roses because fat Rioli wants to take their handfuls of cash, and Dixon was runner up in the Coleman a few years back

 

[Slippery Pete]

We've been in existence for a quarter of the time of St Kilda, and already have twice as many flags as them. We'll overrun them in Finals wins - probably in the next decade.

I get it, we’re better than St Kilda, but that’s about it!