Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2023

[Scham]

Ban the bump.

Its that simple.

Sick of watching TV talking heads crying out "we don't want that kind of hit in the game" and "the optics are bad". Then in the next episode saying "you can't ban the bump entirely ... its part of the game".

You can't expect a professional athlete to be able to distinguish the "optics" in the middle of competition.

If you don't want an action just ban it totally.

So they can continue to let off Victorian "good blokes"

 

[gaskin]

Ban the bump.

Its that simple.

Sick of watching TV talking heads crying out "we don't want that kind of hit in the game" and "the optics are bad". Then in the next episode saying "you can't ban the bump entirely ... its part of the game".

You can't expect a professional athlete to be able to distinguish the "optics" in the middle of competition.

If you don't want an action just ban it totally.

We don't want those kinds of bumps. The bump Treacy put on early in the game yesterday was perfect. You can't ban that. Launching yourself off the ground targeting an opponent like Pickett and McAdam is not on. Nor is Buddy running passed the ball and bumping Collins in the head. Those are conscious decisions to deliberately hurt a player. All 3 were dog acts that could have easily been avoided. Buddy in particular has a lot of prior form for doing that shit so any argument to try and make a case that it was not deliberate is null and void.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

We don't want those kinds of bumps. The bump Treacy put on early in the game yesterday was perfect. You can't ban that. Launching yourself off the ground targeting an opponent like Pickett and McAdam is not on. Nor is Buddy running passed the ball and bumping Collins in the head. Those are conscious decisions to deliberately hurt a player. All 3 were dog acts that could have easily been avoided. Buddy in particular has a lot of prior form for doing that s**t so any argument to try and make a case that it was not deliberate is null and void.

I have no idea how the MRO sits there and classifies all 3 as careless.

How on earth can anyone say that? All 3 were intentional.

 

[poshman]

The bump is dead….
All of the shirt fronts dealt out this week, were by indigenous West Australians - receiving suspensions and tribunal visit - we play the game a little tougher over here…
A couple of weeks off for:

• Buddy
• Kozzie
• McAdam

I played a lot of footy over here and I thought all of them would have been considered dirty when I played. Buddy has been getting away with snipey stuff for ages. The others were outright dirty, dangerous play. Pickett launched himself in an upwards trajectory. It should have been 4-6 no matter the outcome of the hit.

 

[largebus]

If they end up cracking down, the AFL's flavour-of-the-month, "police are now targeting X" style enforcement (e.g. Ginnivan ducking last year) means accidental contact like Hughes on Webster yesterday will end up being a soft fine or one game ban.

 

[Nothing]

Can anyone tell me how Pickett's was 2 weeks and McAdams is straight to tribunal?

 

[gaskin]

Can anyone tell me how Pickett's was 2 weeks and McAdams is straight to tribunal?

The uproar over Pickett and Buddy meant the MRO couldn't be ****ed and decided to let someone else handle it.

 

[Square Peg]

Can anyone tell me how Pickett's was 2 weeks and McAdams is straight to tribunal?

It's because of the severity of the impact, which as others have said, is stupid because you should judge the act, not the impact

 

[Nothing]

It's because of the severity of the impact, which as others have said, is stupid because you should judge the act, not the impact

But Wehr played out the game

 

[Square Peg]

But Wehr played out the game

All I can say is the only difference is in the grading
Kossie careless, high, high
McAdam careless, severe, high

 

[Van_Dyke]

But Wehr played out the game

All I can say is the only difference is in the grading
Kossie careless, high, high
McAdam careless, severe, high

Think the difference in the grading is down to Smith not getting a concussion test, and Wehr getting one

 

[Taylor]

Interesting that the doctors took the players off to check, but not Smith. Any idea why he wasn't taken off after they reviewed the footage?

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Interesting that the doctors took the players off to check, but not Smith. Any idea why he wasn't taken off after they reviewed the footage?

Liam Picken's lawyers will probably be asking the very same question.

 

[E Shed]

I imagine players in future are going to have to sign waivers to acknowledge they’re playing a collision sport & accept they might get concussed.

 

[gaskin]

I doubt that would get the approval from the AFLPA.

 

[Madas]

How long till they all wear helmets ( Angus Brayshaw

10

Angus Brayshaw

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.3

5star

MG

233.5

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.2

4star

MG

233.5

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

5.6

5star

style)
I reckon within 10 years
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it keeps the game physical

 

[BStaff17]

How long till they all wear helmets ( Angus Brayshaw style)
I reckon within 10 years
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it keeps the game physical

It doesn't really make much difference.

Research done says headgears don't make too much difference to concussion.

'The message is still not getting through': Why headgear doesn't prevent concussion

Not only do protective helmets do nothing to stop brain trauma, they can actually cause athletes to behave more recklessly on the field.

amp.smh.com.au

 

[tonygeeks]

How long till they all wear helmets ( Angus Brayshaw

10

Angus Brayshaw

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.3

5star

MG

233.5

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.2

4star

MG

233.5

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

5.6

5star

style)
I reckon within 10 years
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it keeps the game physical

Freo are way ahead of the curve in the fight against the scourge of concussions in sport

Judging by the weekend we have already removed all our players brains

Cutting edge baby

 

[Madas]

It doesn't really make much difference.

Research done says headgears don't make too much difference to concussion.

'The message is still not getting through': Why headgear doesn't prevent concussion

Not only do protective helmets do nothing to stop brain trauma, they can actually cause athletes to behave more recklessly on the field.

amp.smh.com.au

Fair enough but it might be the AFLs only option to cover their players liability insurance if that’s what it comes too .

I do think that penalties should be harsher ( 8-10 weeks and 3 strikes you’re out for good ) particularly on anyone who is seen as not attempting to go for the ball and causing a serious collision

Either that or turn the game into soccer

 

[Lach72]

I reckon all but the accidental head contact could be sorted instantly:

all concussions get 4 weeks on the sidelines.

and players causing concussions with deliberate hits get four weeks.

 

[G Mus]

Fair enough but it might be the AFLs only option to cover their players liability insurance if that’s what it comes too .

I do think that penalties should be harsher ( 8-10 weeks and 3 strikes you’re out for good ) particularly on anyone who is seen as not attempting to go for the ball and causing a serious collision

Either that or turn the game into soccer

I don’t think the legal issues are due to players getting concussed, it’s more to do around negligence in not doing a concussion test every time e.g Smith, cutting corners and having a shorter than recommended time off (12 days is made up by them to look good but someone can play two weeks later and get concussed again still)

 

[anchor man]

I imagine players in future are going to have to sign waivers to acknowledge they’re playing a collision sport & accept they might get concussed.

LOL, your imagination isrunning rampant, but in the wrong direction.
It will never happen.

 

[anchor man]

How long till they all wear helmets ( Angus Brayshaw style)
I reckon within 10 years
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it keeps the game physical

Helmets have worked out amazingly well with American football. They havethe same issues as the AFL, even with cricket style helmets.

 

[anchor man]

Fair enough but it might be the AFLs only option to cover their players liability insurance if that’s what it comes too .

I do think that penalties should be harsher ( 8-10 weeks and 3 strikes you’re out for good ) particularly on anyone who is seen as not attempting to go for the ball and causing a serious collision

Either that or turn the game into soccer

Gee whizz, I could name a player that we would not have seen on the weekend with that type of penalty.

 

[Tonga Bob]

McAdam got three weeks.

The verdict is in: Tribunal makes call on McAdam hit

The Tribunal has handed down its verdict on Shane McAdam's crude bump on Jacob Wehr

www.afl.com.au

Rules him out for our game in round 4.