Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II

[STPer18]

Is there a link to Gil's upcoming press conference?

Can't find any acknowledgement of it anywhere.

'Incredibly serious': AFL to probe Hawks' treatment of Indigenous players

The AFL launch an independent investigation into 'extremely serious' allegations of Hawthorn's treatment of Indigenous players, as Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan step back from coaching roles

www.afl.com.au

Says 10:30am but we're already 45 minutes late and no show from the big fella.

 

[STPer18]

'Incredibly serious': AFL to probe Hawks' treatment of Indigenous players

The AFL launch an independent investigation into 'extremely serious' allegations of Hawthorn's treatment of Indigenous players, as Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan step back from coaching roles

www.afl.com.au

Says 10:30am but we're already 45 minutes late and no show from the big fella.

Ok it says 10:30 on my link but after refreshing they've pushed it back to 11am. Still late.

 

[cats_09]

Is there a link to Gil's upcoming press conference?

Can't find any acknowledgement of it anywhere.

I've turned the tv over to the ABC news channel and they were discussing this situation - they're still waiting on what's happening with the press conference though

 

[Cataholic]

'Incredibly serious': AFL to probe Hawks' treatment of Indigenous players

The AFL launch an independent investigation into 'extremely serious' allegations of Hawthorn's treatment of Indigenous players, as Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan step back from coaching roles

www.afl.com.au

Says 10:30am but we're already 45 minutes late and no show from the big fella.

Thanks.

The fox must be running amok in the hen house.

 

[jim boy]

Explains why Kennett was so keen to move Clarkson on.

 

[cats_09]

Thanks.

The fox must be running amok in the hen house.

ABC now has the little pop up box in the corner waiting for the media conference - but still no set time to start

In the box they seem to be doing camera or lighting tests, so it may not be too far away

 

[JohnZ]

Lawyers haven't signed off on it yet

100%. Been pushed back to 1130 and probably even later.

 

[cats_09]

Cataholic It's starting

 

[Night90Cat]

Treating people as a football commodity to be exploited at the expense of their emotional, psychological and cultural well being, wow this is a sad. I think even in this GF week it's good to remember that winning is not everything, and that being a decent human being most certainly is.

 

[evolutionbaby]

"Greater safety and education across the board?"
Really Gil??
Don't think Jeff and his cronies were listening.

 

[evolutionbaby]

Treating people as a football commodity to be exploited at the expense of their emotional, psychological and cultural well being, wow this is a sad. I think even in this GF week it's good to remember that winning is not everything, and that being a decent human being most certainly is.

Everything else is a very distant second.

 

[Stokey]

Just proves that winning at any cost isn't winning.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

10 minutes after reading...Clarkson and Fagan are finished.

They have to be.

Read this morning that Burt is now at an all boys school

 

[Art Vandelay_]

1) It’s happened to Hawthorn out of every club it could’ve happened to.

That isn’t a positive at all.

I get no joy out of this, this isn’t something to use as a jibe to poke fun at Hawk fans. They’re as disgusted by this as everyone else.

 

[Kitcat]

Gill looks rattled. And fair enough.

 

[NakedDeadGuy]

I hate Hawthorn as much as anyone possibly could - just wanted to get that out of the way first. It is my hope other club supporters don't look at this as a point scoring opportunity. Hawk fans are our mates, workmates, family and they would be feeling absolutely flattened by this. This is a bigger issue than footy rivalry, have a bit of empathy for what your mates are going through with this news, because the club they support has made horrendous decisions doesn't mean they are personally involved or responsible. Most have strongly expressed their condemnation of what has taken place.

The players and families affected - nothing anyone can say or do can 'fix' what has happened. I just hope they will be supported as best is possible. Think about what you say when you bag players - you never know what they are going through in their personal lives. I don't know how, but am hopeful some good can come of this eventually. All clubs including ours should be commissioning similar investigations, I'd be devastated if this is more widespread.

 

[cats_09]

There is only two positives out of this whole situation

1) It’s happened to Hawthorn out of every club it could’ve happened to.

2) If somehow we lose on Saturday, it’ll be quickly forgotten except on BF because of what Hawthorn has done.

Not sure how there's any positives from this

Regarding the bold, that's the furthest thing from a positive - this should never have happened at any club, but unfortunately it has happened and today's article indicates it's happened to more than one player.

There's no good club for this to have happened at - I'm not someone who would support Hawthorn all that often, but there's no positive in terms of them being the club at the centre of this issue


And the second point makes no sense and there's just no relevance between the two situations - regardless of the result on Saturday, the story that broke today clearly has had a massive impact on the lives of multiple players & their families and that's more significant than who wins the grand final

 

[Sky]

That isn’t a positive at all.

I get no joy out of this, this isn’t something to use as a jibe to poke fun at Hawk fans. They’re as disgusted by this as everyone else.

People seemed to enjoy ripping into Adelaide Crows over their camp.

 

[Stokey]

I'd be devastated if this is more widespread.

Same.

The amount of coaches out there that learned their trade as an assistant under Clarkson does worry me.

 

[Sky]

Not sure how there's any positives from this

Regarding the bold, that's the furthest thing from a positive - this should never have happened at any club, but unfortunately it has happened and today's article indicates it's happened to more than one player.

There's no good club for this to have happened at - I'm not someone who would support Hawthorn all that often, but there's no positive in terms of them being the club at the centre of this issue


And the second point makes no sense and there's just no relevance between the two situations - regardless of the result on Saturday, the story that broke today clearly has had a massive impact on the lives of multiple players & their families and that's more significant than who wins the grand final

Win or lose on Saturday, it’s still true that the Hawks headlines have now taken the spotlight off us. Sydney come into this game with nothing to lose - they overachieved for their list profile.

I feel sorry for the Hawks fans for being associated to such a situation by extension but this website is full of people who like to rip into Essendon and the Crows fans for things their fans can’t control either.

 

[Cataholic]

Same.

The amount of coaches out there that learned their trade as an assistant under Clarkson does worry me.

Hopefully they have a far superior moral set, better ethics, and a sincere conscience.

 

[Jimmy Willis Jawline]

We need an urgent enquiry to the Geelong football club as well.
This makes me feel sick about football as a whole and it cannot be tolerated.
Every club should be thoroughly investigated

 

[evolutionbaby]

Just on the allegations stated, this comes across as some type of pseudo-Stolen Generation microcosm.

Taking away and isolating people from friends and families.

Only complete sociopaths would do this.

 

[cats_09]

People seemed to enjoy ripping into Adelaide Crows over their camp.

I'd say there's different parts to that and it's played out differently over the years

When first reported the wasn't a lot of detailed information about what actually happened at the camp, and it was more that Adelaide was being mocked over the idea of the came especially as they were coming off a grand final appearance and then shat the bed the next season - it was being reported like a few players just didn't like having to do some hard work


Then look at the response this year when a couple of former players felt that they were now in a better position themselves to speak out about what had happened during the camp, and suddenly instead of mocking Adelaide the responses were more like, "WTF were they doing, and how could they think that was ever ok"

If the public knew back then what they know now, I have no doubt that the initial response would be totally different

 

[Strange Cat]

Explains why Kennett was so keen to move Clarkson on.

He’s no better I was staggered he still stayed on deapite what Rioli publically said