Mega Thread Oh yeah ... did you know there are 17 other teams? - General AFL discussion #9 - Blues posters only

[Aphrodite]

Not surprising!








Seems legit!

 

[Azul]

Seems legit!

Will retire after 4-6 years and thus the Swans will be stuck with an annual bill of $1,000,000 for 3-5 years.

 

[AB_Blue]

Geoff Walsh goes back to the Roos...........

Geez FIGJAMs really doing a number on that club............long may his reign continue

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Geoff Walsh goes back to the Roos...........

Geez FIGJAMs really doing a number on that club............long may his reign continue

Time to lock in Eddie for a longer term also....

 

[happydude]

Timber!

 

[mediumsizered]

Will retire after 4-6 years and thus the Swans will be stuck with an annual bill of $1,000,000 for 3-5 years.

I just wonder why a club would sign a player to a lengthy contract knowing full well said player won't play for the entire duration of the contract, but the club will still have to include the player's salary in its TPP for a number of years after the player has retired. There is still something that doesn't add up for me.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

I just wonder why a club would sign a player to a lengthy contract knowing full well said player won't play for the entire duration of the contract, but the club will still have to include the player's salary in its TPP for a number of years after the player has retired. There is still something that doesn't add up for me.

Didn't Brisbane do the same sort of deal with Lynch?

 

[Aphrodite]

I just wonder why a club would sign a player to a lengthy contract knowing full well said player won't play for the entire duration of the contract, but the club will still have to include the player's salary in its TPP for a number of years after the player has retired. There is still something that doesn't add up for me.

Exactly what I said before msr.

Sounds legit.

 

[Kramer1]

Just wondering about the 1.1M that the Hawks apparently have to spend...do you think that a reasonable whack of that might be flowing back to the rest of the playing group that has been taking unders to keep Buddy at the club? Perhaps I am more hopeful than anything.

 

[Neku]

According to 3AW Hawthorn have said they aren't matching the offer, so Buddy is now officially a Swan!

 

[Kramer1]

Didn't Brisbane do the same sort of deal with Lynch?

Lynch played out his ten years contract and still went around one more year.

 

[Quazza]

yer Lynch was years younger than buddy.

 

[etsal1]

So Hawthorn have already declared they wont match Swans offer for Buddy, but Collingwood are still acting like petulant children & wont let Thommo go? Why am I not surprised.

 

[BlueBelle]

So Hawthorn have already declared they wont match Swans offer for Buddy, but Collingwood are still acting like petulant children & wont let Thommo go? Why am I not surprised.

Should've bought Kleenex shares yesterday. Thanks to Collingwood supporters, their sales have increased dramatically

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Cynical exercise by the Swans. I have liked them and cheered for them in their GFs since 1996, but I hope they have no success while Franklin is there. The amount they are paying him means that other will be getting about $30k less per player than they otherwise could have. The rest of the list aside from Tippett and Franklin average around $210k per year per player meaning their COLA will be around $20k. Effectively they have each taken a cut of $10k to get him there. So tell me, why do they need the COLA, which is there to make up for the cost of living so that players don't fled to less expensive cities? They are quite happy to stay for less to be in Sydney as long as they are winning, just like every other player at every other team.

Yes I know they have offloaded other players, but 4 players does not equal one, unless they are hoping their cheap replacements are never worthy of a pay rise over the 9 years.

 

[HBF]

So Hawthorn have already declared they wont match Swans offer for Buddy, but Collingwood are still acting like petulant children & wont let Thommo go? Why am I not surprised.

Just an amazing offer by the Swans - Buddy will be 35 before the season starts in year 9 of his contract. Can see seasons 7-9 really being an issue for Sydney.

 

[SBYM]

I just wonder why a club would sign a player to a lengthy contract knowing full well said player won't play for the entire duration of the contract, but the club will still have to include the player's salary in its TPP for a number of years after the player has retired. There is still something that doesn't add up for me.

Agree 100%....

All I can think of is they reckon they're gonna jag 2 or 3 in the next 6 years, making the onerous expense worth it, which it would be imo...but heck, gamble and a half...

And I feel they're putting a helluva lot of faith in the Bloods myth keeping guns like Hannebery, Jack, Parker there whilst getting unders...

 

[Dramoth]

yer Lynch was years younger than buddy.

I think that Lynch was 25 when he went to the bears and he still played on for 1 year after that 10 year contract finished. Buddy is going there aged 26

 

[mediumsizered]

I think that Lynch was 25 when he went to the bears and he still played on for 1 year after that 10 year contract finished. Buddy is going there aged 26

Buddy turns 27 in January, but regardless of that we live in a different football world where very few players play beyond their early 30s & I highly doubt Buddy is looking to emulate Dustin Fletcher or Brent Harvey. I would be surprised to see him play for more than another 5 years so we will have a situation where Sydney have Buddy's salary included in their TPP for at least 4 years after his retirement, most likely without having the benefit of the COLA.

Of course this is not Buddy's problem, but it will be the AFL's problem when Sydney find themselves in a situation where they are paying the full TPP whilst being unable to recruit or retain quality players due to their maxed out TPP, potentially seeing them near the bottom end of the AFL ladder for a number of years. As we know the AFL can't afford to have an uncompetitive Sydney Swans for any length of time, as the supporters will disappear very quickly & an empty, upgraded SCG is not a good look on national TV.

This brings me back to the suspicions I hold about the integrity of this deal & how it will pan out when Buddy decides to pull the pin on his playing career. There has to be a get out clause somewhere to save Sydney from itself. Anyway we shall see.

 

[Big Sim]

Just an amazing offer by the Swans - Buddy will be 35 before the season starts in year 9 of his contract. Can see seasons 7-9 really being an issue for Sydney.

If he retires they don't have to pay him out, although his contract remains part of the cap regardless. Strange situation and one that reeks of future fixing by the AFL.

I just hope he takes the piss, gets fat, goes 3 strikes, gets into all sorts of trouble in Bondi after dark. Serve them right after the way they manipulated Tippetgate. Bloods culture? All toss.

 

[Blue Dangerfield]

Why even have a salary cap? Lets just put all our players on 100 year deals for 1000 bux a year.

It's an obvious attempt to circumvent the salary cap and it is completely dodgy.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Franklin will probably play 5 seasons at 1 million per year and then get his payout.
In effect Sydney will be paying him 2 million per season for 5 seasons.
Very clever Sydney!

 

[Juddafideslenko]

I just wonder why a club would sign a player to a lengthy contract knowing full well said player won't play for the entire duration of the contract, but the club will still have to include the player's salary in its TPP for a number of years after the player has retired. There is still something that doesn't add up for me.

2 million per season! they scammed it well!
Buddy wont play past 31! hahaha
he couldn't be stuffed, better to play for 5 years for 9 mil instead of 9 years for 10 mil!
Simple economics!

 

[ODNBlue]

Franklin will probably play 5 seasons at 1 million per year and then get his payout.
In effect Sydney will be paying him 2 million per season for 5 seasons.
Very clever Sydney!

Seems to me that that is cheating.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Seems to me that that is cheating.

nah Sydney dont cheat! perish the thought