Test Pakistan v England (3 Test Matches)

[two blue tiger]

Watching the moral victors show their true form is one of life's great joys.......

 

[PhatBoy]

Yes.

I touched on this in another thread with someone, but largely they're all "eye" players. And what's more they're stand and deliver eye players. Not a shred of technique amongst them bar Root. It's the bazookas they all use for bats now that save most of them, and this is true across most test playing nations. There's precious little in the way of technique over eye now.

When you can clunk something off the toe/edge for six who needs technique?

This is the first time I've really seen/paid attention to Smith and he certainly looks to have a technique.

Pope has no footwork - credit to him for that sweeping exhibition in the first test in India but he refuses to get to the pitch of the ball. I’ve seen Brook do it on the front foot but he only seems to want to do it when the pitch isn’t turning a lot. I’ll reserve judgement on him yet because it’s only been the two tests - he missed the India series. His play off the back foot to those straight ones has been terrible

Stokes is just abysmal at the moment. He looks a complete mess.

They also seem to forget that you can use your feet to hit singles. By all means, aim to use your feet to attack. But if you don’t get the ball you want, nudge one away for one

 

[Plugger35]

10 wickets for Sajid Khan, we could do with him in Pune right now.

 

[FreoRicci]

England in Pakistan:

First Test: 823/7
Next two Tests: 814/40

 

[010203]

Congratulations to Dizzy on his first series win as Pakistan match day strategist.

 

[FreoRicci]

The Moral Victors.

Stokes really need to retire. Guy can’t bowl, and can’t bat v anyone else but Australia.

 

[MJG14]

England destroyed by 2 guys who didn't play the first Test.

Sajid and Noman pick up 39 out of 40 possible wickets between them. Zahid Mahmood prevented it from being all 40 unfortunately!

 

[Cmarsh]

The Moral Victors.

Stokes really need to retire. Guy can’t bowl, and can’t bat v anyone else but Australia.

Which is probably why he would still be penciled in for next Ashes.

 

[yabsy]

England destroyed by 2 guys who didn't play the first Test.

Sajid and Noman pick up 39 out of 40 possible wickets between them. Zahid Mahmood prevented it from being all 40 unfortunately!

Damn you Zahid!

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[BStaff17]

The Moral Victors.

Stokes really need to retire. Guy can’t bowl, and can’t bat v anyone else but Australia.

What have they won since Spudball actually started.

Anything 1 series win on the road against Pakistan 2 years the rest have been draws or losses.

Ganging up on West Indies and Sri Lanka at home.

Sri Lanka still beat them in a test a month or so ago.

 

[sabso]

Stokes is cooked with the bat I reckon. Might play the occasional great knock but that's it.

Nearly at specialist captain level.

Pope was a better captain as well.

 

[hawkman]

Pope was a better captain as well.

Debatable that Pope is a better bat than Stokes though

 

[Joffaboy]

What have they won since Spudball actually started.

Anything 1 series win on the road against Pakistan 2 years the rest have been draws or losses.

Ganging up on West Indies and Sri Lanka at home.

Sri Lanka still beat them in a test a month or so ago.

Bazball is nothing but hype. They think they invented attacking cricket, Australia has been playing like that for quarter of a century.
They are frauds who have drunk their own bathwater and are utterly in love with themselves.
When they don't have the Duke ball and 59 metre boundaries they are same old England....Always losing.

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[FreoRicci]

Surprisingly the only player in that time that has improved is Joe Root. Absolutely loving BazBall and taken his game to another notch

 

[TazHawk15]

Suck shit you “Spaz Ball” moral campaigners.

 

[PhatBoy]

Stokes is cooked with the bat I reckon. Might play the occasional great knock but that's it.

Nearly at specialist captain level.

I’m not sure. He looks like a man to me who is batting very confused at the moment like he doesn’t know what to be. Pre-Bazzball he actually batted with more freedom than just about anyone in that team BUT, he was also capable of he had to of really defending like his life depended on it and he could focus so hard. His mind looks so scrambled right now

 

[FreoRicci]

I’m not sure. He looks like a man to me who is batting very confused at the moment like he doesn’t know what to be. Pre-Bazzball he actually batted with more freedom than just about anyone in that team BUT, he was also capable of he had to of really defending like his life depended on it and he could focus so hard. His mind looks so scrambled right now

The captaincy has got to him.

England are absolutely cooked. The last two years has been deplorable.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Bazball is nothing but hype. They think they invented attacking cricket, Australia has been playing like that for quarter of a century.
They are frauds who have drunk their own bathwater and are utterly in love with themselves.
When they don't have the Duke ball and 59 metre boundaries they are same old England....Always losing.

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100% this.

They’ve never heard of Sobers; Stackpole; Roy Fredericks; Greenidge; Haynes; Ian Chappell; Richie Richardson; the great Viv; Hayden; Gilchrist etc.

Too many others to mention.

They are a joke.

 

[Westend]

I’m not sure. He looks like a man to me who is batting very confused at the moment like he doesn’t know what to be. Pre-Bazzball he actually batted with more freedom than just about anyone in that team BUT, he was also capable of he had to of really defending like his life depended on it and he could focus so hard. His mind looks so scrambled right now

Phat Stats don't lie

107 tests thats a big body of work with only a test batting average of 35 .....good player yes but not a great one

His stats are basically the same as Shane Watson who after 59 tests batting ave is the same 35...watto with the ball 75 poles at 33...stokesy 200 poles ave 32 ..so its basically the same based upon the amount of tests

and we wouldn't all call watto a great of the game ...good player same as stokes but not great

and who is the better at ODI cricket?....watto ave 40 with the bat close to 6000 ODI runs 168 poles at 31

stokes ave 41 just over 3000 runs...74 wickets at 42 ...yes watto played more ODI games ...but based on that watto the better white ball player

you can make the argument that one is overrated and the other unders....