Pakistan vs West Indies (2 tests)

[Plugger35]

The West Indies aren't helping their case to not be relegated to a second division of test cricket with a performance like this.

 

[sr36]

Is the pitch nuts or WI awful or both?

 

[Cleavy]

Is the pitch nuts or WI awful or both?

a minefield vs spin, according to cricinfo

 

[PhatBoy]

Is the pitch nuts or WI awful or both?

Its bad but we haven’t helped our cause put it that way

 

[PhatBoy]

It’s alright our batting only starts at 8-down

 

[Carbine Chaos]

jangoo a ton on odi debut and a duck on test debut.

Crazy we have Jangoo and Babar Fett playing the same game.

 

[sr36]

Its bad but we haven’t helped our cause put it that way

Is Seales injured? He bowled well last test.

 

[PhatBoy]

Is Seales injured? He bowled well last test.

I’m not sure, I didn’t check much of the pre-game news. He did bowl really well and even in the second innings when he went wicketless he easily could have picked up 2-3

 

[sr36]

Hodge's 21 is a worry. Might stop the cunning plan of 9,10 and 11 top scoring again.

 

[cricketnut14]

Is Seales injured? He bowled well last test.

 

[ioppolo]

Gudakesh to the rescue

 

[sr36]

Come on Roach. 5 more runs gets you into the top 2 scorers.

 

[sr36]

Come on Roach. 5 more runs gets you into the top 2 scorers.

He's there!

22 for Warrican and they will have pulled off the plan two tests in a row.

 

[Lunchtime]

Garbage cricket.

 

[PhatBoy]

We have scored 2-80 since Noman’s hat-trick

wtf is wrong with this team

 

[PhatBoy]

Hmmm.

This has gotten to an interesting stage. 20 more, and suddenly Pakistan have a slight degree of difficulty to their task.

This has been a good recovery

 

[kyiv]

reverse the batting order!

 

[PhatBoy]

Interesting morning.

Not sure it reveals anything we didn’t already know. The pitch is incredibly skewed towards spin to a crazy level, Windies are crazy bad against spin when there’s any assistance beyond the norm, and we could be in the game yet if we get a couple or early wickets

 

[sr36]

reverse the batting order!

Better still, improve the batting by playing 10 bowlers.

 

[Cleavy]

163 all out is far better than anyone could have expected from 7/38

 

[PhatBoy]

It’s so frustrating watching batting that has muddled thinking. The batsmen in all three innings that have made runs have been the ones with clear, basic plans, and adhered to them strictly from start to finish. Even the ones who’ve gotten starts but not necessarily prospered: hodge for example.

Then there’s the guys who are just reading the ball off the pitch and making up what they’re doing and it clearly isn’t working

 

[PhatBoy]

163 all out is far better than anyone could have expected from 7/38

Seriously I reckon as much as you want 3-400 at the start of any match, with a) what we’ve got in the hutch and b) the conditions we would have been looking at say, 200+.

So from that perspective it’s a little bit under par. It means we need to claw back some early ground with the ball. So it’s not irretrievable

I can’t believe I’m saying that after the early debacle we found ourselves in

 

[sr36]

It’s so frustrating watching batting that has muddled thinking. The batsmen in all three innings that have made runs have been the ones with clear, basic plans, and adhered to them strictly from start to finish. Even the ones who’ve gotten starts but not necessarily prospered: hodge for example.

Then there’s the guys who are just reading the ball off the pitch and making up what they’re doing and it clearly isn’t working

I get the point, but when 6 of your top 8 face a combined total of 21 balls, it's hard to know whether or not they had a plan.

 

[sherb]

So it didn't occur once in the first 2576 Test matches.

And now it has occurred in two successive Tests.

 

[PhatBoy]

I get the point, but when 6 of your top 8 face a combined total of 21 balls, it's hard to know whether or not they had a plan.

No that’s fair, Louis gets a mulligan it was just a standard fast bowler opener dismissal. Athanaze doesn’t.