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Dont know how much you want to attribute that to Jackson. Freo have taken a nosedive after getting him onboard.He wins flags instead
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Dont know how much you want to attribute that to Jackson. Freo have taken a nosedive after getting him onboard.He wins flags instead
I think gold coast wants more. Perhaps essendon can trade 8,26 for 10,15 with bulldogs, then offer 15, 2024r1.Moat sides would be offering F1 and points
Id hope Essendon are offering F1 and 26
Without thinking about it too much, I dont think id offer too much more than F1 and 26I think gold coast wants more. Perhaps essendon can trade 8,26 for 10,15 with bulldogs, then offer 15, 2024r1.
So overall, essendon trade
8,26, 2024r1 for 4,10.
Gold coast probably would insist on 10, not 15
being part of the deal, maybe send essendon a 2024r3.
So for essendon it is
8,26,2024r1 for 4,15 2024r3.
GC won't want 10 - gets eaten up. They get better value pushing that for two seconds, one this year and next.I think gold coast wants more. Perhaps essendon can trade 8,26 for 10,15 with bulldogs, then offer 15, 2024r1.
So overall, essendon trade
8,26, 2024r1 for 4,10.
Gold coast probably would insist on 10, not 15
being part of the deal, maybe send essendon a 2024r3.
So for essendon it is
8,26,2024r1 for 4,15 2024r3.
Without thinking about it too much, I dont think id offer too much more than F1 and 26
Would they prefer Freos F1 and 21? Maybe, maybe not.
I dont think eagles will be too interested in 4 and 5I think Melbourne are likely to go 24, 34 (or whatever the Grundy pick ends up) and F1 to GC for 4.
If that gets accepted or wins the bid, then 4 and 5 as an offer to WC for 1. Might include North shuffling if required to get 2 to sate WC. We have 15 and another likely second as well, so we have options for upgrades etc - but I doubt we'll give up much more than 4 and 5.
Just take them and 15 to the draft otherwise. Likely take McKercher (pending North compo/PP), Watson and a defender at 15. Pretty good consolation prize.
I think Melbourne are likely to go 24, 34 (or whatever the Grundy pick ends up) and F1 to GC for 4.
If that gets accepted or wins the bid, then 4 and 5 as an offer to WC for 1. Might include North shuffling if required to get 2 to sate WC. We have 15 and another likely second as well, so we have options for upgrades etc - but I doubt we'll give up much more than 4 and 5.
Just take them and 15 to the draft otherwise. Likely take McKercher (pending North compo/PP), Watson and a defender at 15. Pretty good consolation prize.
Its almost dont have a top 4 pick, dont bother thenThis thread will continue to go round and round in circles for a while haha. I think the only rules that I think are required for this trade are
1) It requires WC to be interested in trading it because the trades WC posters are thinking of are never getting done
2) WC need to guarantee access to one of McKercher, Curtin and Duursma, dont have a top 5 pick, dont bother.
3) Melbourne are not offering up JVR, that's insane
4) GC are not taking a trade that doesnt involve a future 1st
Yeah I really think it’s Hawks and North and no one else really, unless Melbourne do something REALLY stupidIts almost dont have a top 4 pick, dont bother then
This thread will continue to go round and round in circles for a while haha. I think the only rules that I think are required for this trade are
1) It requires WC to be interested in trading it because the trades WC posters are thinking of are never getting done
2) WC need to guarantee access to one of McKercher, Curtin and Duursma, dont have a top 5 pick, dont bother.
3) Melbourne are not offering up JVR, that's insane
4) GC are not taking a trade that doesnt involve a future 1st
I think you should ask Freo nicely and trade them JacksonVan Rooyen is just the steak knives alongside all our picks plus Rivers and McVee!
The Gold Coast pick 4 may become important if the eagles are happy with either of Curtin, Mckercher or Duursma rather than being all in on Curtin and only CurtinYeah I really think it’s Hawks and North and no one else really, unless Melbourne do something REALLY stupid
Yeah I really think it’s Hawks and North and no one else really, unless Melbourne do something REALLY stupid
Can we stop talking about pick 4The Gold Coast pick 4 may become important if the eagles are happy with either of Curtin, Mckercher or Duursma rather than being all in on Curtin and only Curtin
Still only happens if Mckay doesnt get Band 1 either
The Mckay FA compo and Sanders ruling determines alot
If one of them occurs then id be happy to lose Pick 8, F1, Pick 26 and Zerk Thatcher for H.Reid
What did they trade for the Oliver pick? Struggling to remember.Melbourne did something REALLY stupid when they overpaid to upgrade to pick up Oliver, Pickett and Bowey, so it has happened before.
It’s a strong deal on paper but like you say, no one is actually looking at the players that are available at those picks and therefore why we wouldn’t be interested.I dont think eagles will be too interested in 4 and 5
Ultimately means theyll have to pick 2 players with potential flight risk instead of 1
I also dont think that deals as strong as what others have been suggested. Gold Coast will get the points, they will be more focused on the best future 1st imo
Alot to play out though
Definitely on the high side for value but I couldn’t see WC being happy with Watson and Caddy for Reid. Seems very counterintuitive. Would need to be a top 3 pick as a starting point (Curtin or McKercher) and even then Curtin plus Caddy for Reid is still borderline.#4 & #5 for #1 seems overs IMO (even though #4 & #5 will slide). It is effectively trading Watson and Caddy for Reid.
Definitely on the high side for value but I couldn’t see WC being happy with Watson and Caddy for Reid. Seems very counterintuitive. Would need to be a top 3 pick as a starting point (Curtin or McKercher) and even then Curtin plus Caddy for Reid is still borderline.
It’s about the players that are available rather than the picks themselves. Caddy+Watson is worth more to Melbourne than WC which is why a trade looks hard unless Melbourne go absolutely all in.
For the umpteenth time(and I know your suggestion isn't exactly the below but just felt like pointing it out again for anyone reading this attempting to propose the deal;#4 & #5 for #1 seems overs IMO (even though #4 & #5 will slide). It is effectively trading Watson and Caddy for Reid.
Ralphy has a night and day crush on Harley so I doubt itAssume rumours and media talk will dry up over the weekend and start dripping again Monday?
Yep, 4 is only enticing to the eagles if Mckay doesnt get Band 1It’s a strong deal on paper but like you say, no one is actually looking at the players that are available at those picks and therefore why we wouldn’t be interested.
Reid - the best player in the draft by a fair margin who may or may not be a flight risk (at this stage has been confirmed by multiple direct sources that it’s not an issue)
For two of: Caddy/Watson/Duursma
All who are lesser players and carry at least the same amount of risk as Reid. It stacks up on numbers but there isn’t the same incentive as last year for example.
For the umpteenth time(and I know your suggestion isn't exactly the below but just felt like pointing it out again for anyone reading this attempting to propose the deal;
Watson & Caddy are said to be the 2 highest flight risks in the top 10 from people in recruitment circles.
Reid is not, so the suggestion from a number of people trading back due to Reid being a 'risk', only put up Caddy & Watson as the 2 players likely to be in the range of the traded picks shows that people are clueless about what actually benefits WCE in a trade back and are completely contradicting themselves with this suggestion.