Player Watch Pick #18 (2019) - Mitch Georgiades

[PeacefulWarrior]

This thread getting real Todd Marshall

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vibes about lately lol

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Some people pick weird hills to die on

 

[philthy05]

The decision to play lord last week was not in of itself a bad decision


He’s a decent prospect and it’s great we got him exposed to afl. He’s worth developing and seeing what he’s got and he did as well as we could have hoped.


The horrific decision has been the mishandling of our star young kf, and the decision to drop him to the sanfl and leave him there as if that’s any guarantee to fix his kicking yips.


In no other instance that I’m aware of has that been a way goalkicking issues have been addressed successfully.

If anyone pro- the “dropping and keeping Mitch in the sanfl is a great idea” cohort wants to provide examples where it has worked here is your chance…

There’s no evidence that it worked last year when he was dropped,

And there was no evidence that in the games Mitch was dropped that it was improving

It’s been nothing more than a massive ****up by a coach with a history of mismanagements

 

[philthy05]

It’s worth noting that once Todd went out the game that barrass went on a rampage and lord had much less influence on the game.

From memory it went from barass having 0 comtested marks and 2 intercept possessions to something like 7 contested marks and 8 or so intercept possessions after todd left.

 

[Powerade 08]

He was probably dropped for being worst on ground every week for a year, not because he missed a few shots.

 

[theouthouse]

Think theres been a fair oversight on why he was dropped. And that has to do with a switch back to the more defensive style of play port are building, rather than the all out attack.

In the attacking game the extra tall becomes useful, for a slower moving game the extra small/midfield position player becomes useful.

Disapointed he won't be in the team this yea, hope to see him with the club in the future, as he has massive potential and had been tracking really well.

 

[Bars]

Most likely scenario now is he is gone by end of season, he will be at WCE and we will get pick 40 something for him as a player who had terrible form this year and did an ACL.

Horrible outcome. Would much rather keep him as his potential is still massive.

 

[Wargreymon90]

I think he stays

 

[TeeKray]

I think the ACL actually increases rather than decreases his chances of staying.

 

[Windy Cindy]

Lord was awesome. He had a groundball get and hand off for an assist that half our 6ft midfielders would have fluffed. His spoil GA in the goalsquare was the best play from a forward i've seen since Westhoff kicked a goal from the 10th row of the stadium in Shanghai. Made 2-3 other really strong plays by imposing himself. A midfielder with a disp efficiency of 20% is a net loss. A forward with accuracy of 20% is a net loss. Georgiades has 2-3 elite traits but his first 2 years were earned off the back of elite goal kicking. He was dropped in rd 3 because Marshall, Dixon, and Finlayson are all quality forwards. Lord got picked ahead of him last week because Georgiades was as bad as John Butcher in front of goals against the u18s. He played 19 games last year and was backed in to correct the issue but has only gotten worse. There is a point where it becomes his responsibility to fix.

Lord was serviceable for his first game, not awesome.. did enough to get another game, looked promising but tired towards the end.. MG miles better than lord, I’m hoping lord can become a 100 game
player..

MG has a game and the potential to be a genuine star of the comp..

 

[RossFC]

 

[melanChronic]

Rough for Mitch if he was keen to stay with Port but his manager suggested holding out to land a better deal. Hopefully he can lean on the relationships he has at the club to get him through recovery. It would be tough heading to a new club in the midst of rehab and trying to meet your teammates when you can't do most training with them.

 

[Jimmy95]

I know it's just speculation but i don't think Georgiadis was or is intending to leave. Far as i can mostly tell, it seems all clubs at the moment are not resigning players until later in the 2nd half of the season.

On the weekend Mitch Cleary reported on channel 7 that Georgiadis was offered a lucrative contract by West Coast at the end of last season to leave but he chose to stay at Port. If he wanted to go home he would've taken that and Port would've taken the first round compo pick.

Ollie Lord deserved to be selected and shouldn't be clipped by some just because they wanted Georgiadis selected. With his talent, Georgiades should be dominating the sanfl but isn't and has now done his ACL. Shit happens unfortunately.

 

[MALTSY]

I don't agree. I'll agree his confidence was probably low, but he was still finding a lot of the footy for a key forward at both AFL and SANFL level. That doesn't happen if you're not working hard. Touches for key forwards come entirely from workrate, especially in a team that's losing.

Georgiades played against Brisbane and in a thumping against Collingwood. Lord played in a walkover against the worst side in the league by some distance. Lord looked good and I have nothing against him, but Georgiades had more touches and marks in both his games than Lord did against West Coast, including a game where we got smashed off the park. He kicked 1 goal in both of them. The idea that Lord was bringing something Mitch couldn't bring or that he was in some sort of form Mitch wasn't in isn't really supported by the facts.

Lord playing well doesn't automatically make his selection correct given who we left out.

I'm a fan of Georgie but still could see the number of times he failed to make or compete in a contest.
Totally out of sorts and his body language said it all.
Whilst I respect the need to persevere with players down on confidence and form, you have to draw the line somewhere.
He's not bigger than the team and it would have been foolishness to continue playing him.
Bloody bad luck re his knee and I hope he bounces back.

 

[longdonkey]

The decision to play lord last week was not in of itself a bad decision


He’s a decent prospect and it’s great we got him exposed to afl. He’s worth developing and seeing what he’s got and he did as well as we could have hoped.


The horrific decision has been the mishandling of our star young kf, and the decision to drop him to the sanfl and leave him there as if that’s any guarantee to fix his kicking yips.


In no other instance that I’m aware of has that been a way goalkicking issues have been addressed successfully.

If anyone pro- the “dropping and keeping Mitch in the sanfl is a great idea” cohort wants to provide examples where it has worked here is your chance…

There’s no evidence that it worked last year when he was dropped,

And there was no evidence that in the games Mitch was dropped that it was improving

It’s been nothing more than a massive *up by a coach with a history of mismanagements

What I want to know is how did he get the yips in the first place in Year 1 & 2 commentators said what a perfect pure kicking style he has. The question is has someone *ucked with his routine.

 

[Jonts]

Lord wasn't 'great'. He had 10 touches and 5 clangers against the worst side in the league spending most of the game matched up on half backs like Alex Witherden and Reuben Ginbey. And the whole 'Georgiades needs to improve his set shots' argument really doesn't hold water after Lord sprayed a 10 metre out and a 30 metre out shot straight in front out on the full.

Under no circumstances should he have been picked ahead of Georgiades, and while this is more bad luck than anything else, the butterfly effect of picking Lord over Georgiades has led to Georgiades doing an ACL at the absolute worst possible time for us. Georgiades has now become one of our highest priority signatures of all time, because if he leaves now he'll be lucky to be worth a third of what he was worth this time last year, especially with West Coast likely to have a very high pick in the PSD. None of this would have happened if we'd just played him in the AFL last week.

This board cries every time Hinkley doesnt do like for like changes

When he does and brings in Lord for Dixon, everyone cries again!

The butterfly effect could have Georgiades slipping down his stairs going to the AFL game if he was picked, argueing if and buts is completely mute.


Im confident he will sign regardless

 

[longdonkey]

I'm a fan of Georgie but still could see the number of times he failed to make or compete in a contest.
Totally out of sorts and his body language said it all.
Whilst I respect the need to persevere with players down on confidence and form, you have to draw the line somewhere.
He's not bigger than the team and it would have been foolishness to continue playing him.
Bloody bad luck re his knee and I hope he bounces back.

You don't know what he is being instructed to do by the coaches, he might be being told to stay on the boundary for a dump kick.

Wouldn't put it past our coaching group to scapegoat him for their own failures.

 

[Jonts]

I cant beleive people think the only reason Mitch was dropped was poor kicking.
Finlayson was a huge upgrade waiting in the 2s

 

[Jonts]

Will be watching Max King

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return from ACL with interest

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

Will be watching Max King return from ACL with interest

I think it was Ben who recently did an ACL. Max did one as a junior and his recent injury was a shoulder I think?

 

[Ah12]

I think it was Ben who recently did an ACL. Max did one as a junior and his recent injury was a shoulder I think?

Ben did his ACL and was playing poorly on return this year but just kicked 5 in an easy kill against North. Max has already torn his ACL in his draft year from memory? They still picked Max over Rozee who they got a hard on for late and their were strong whispers they were going to take Rozee. Port were in a great position at that pick, Rozee or King was always a win win.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I cant beleive people think the only reason Mitch was dropped was poor kicking.
Finlayson was a huge upgrade waiting in the 2s

Again, basically nobody questioned this decision (apart from people calling for Dixon and Finlayson to share the ruck duties with Lycett in the Port Districts As)

But selecting Lord ahead of him when one of those positions opened up was a bad call for the reasons already stated. The fact that he then got injured playing SANFL while he should have been playing AFL, while purely bad luck, has just made that decision sting even more.

 

[JimmyBC]

Finlayson was a huge upgrade waiting in the 2s

Finlayson is our best tall forward quite comfortably at present imo

 

[RangaInTeal]

give him a 5 year contract, give him 2 years to recover and job security for the 3 after that! If he no good after 3rd season one of the West teams will still pay up for a "local" first round product.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Finlayson is our best tall forward quite comfortably at present imo

Not hard considering his only competition is Ollie Lord and Tom Scully.