News Port Adelaide announces co-captains - Ollie Wines and Tom Jonas

Who will be Port Adelaide's captain in 2019

  • Ollie Wines

    Votes: 131 39.5%
  • Tom Jonas

    Votes: 97 29.2%
  • Hamish Hartlett

    Votes: 24 7.2%
  • Robbie Gray

    Votes: 12 3.6%
  • Justin Westhoff

    Votes: 5 1.5%
  • Charlie Dixon

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 38 11.4%
  • No, not them. This guy

    Votes: 22 6.6%

  • Total voters
    332

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The captain, Matthew Primus, was wearing 1.

The acting captain, Warren Tredrea, was wearing 16.
Yep Primus being injured doesn't mean we broke tradition.
 
Well, I’d say we’ve lost just about everything that made us a great Football Club:
We no longer have juniors & junior zones where we did an awesome job developing players & staying in touch with our roots.

No SANFL reserves & dominant SANFL League team – so the complete structure of a proper football club has been destroyed.

No prison bar Guernsey in the AFL, our Guernsey, the best Guernsey, the most identifiable thing about Port.

Aren't feared by anyone like we used to be – didn’t matter how bad our form was, how many injuries we had, how average our talent was, the opposition always knew they had to play at their best to beat us & were in for one hell of a game.

Don't follow the 'creed' – “To be successful, each of us must be active, aggressive and devoted to this cause. We agree that success is well within our reach and have confidence that each member of both the team and management will suffer personal sacrifices for the common end.” Wines & Jonas completely gave the middle finger to this!

And now going with co-captains, which means getting rid of the captain wearing #1.

They may as well get rid of PORT & put LITE at the end of the name!
This is the end of the Port Adelaide Football Club, now we are the Port Adelaide Football Franchise.

Yet you watch Koch, KT, Hinkley etc. talk about Ports tradition next year.
Rant over....
Hang on a minute.

The club never gave up the zones, the SANFL took them away, that's clear as day. That was done by the SANFL to do what they have done since 1990 and get us at every turn.

As for not having a strong SANFL side and dominate that competition, we are a AFL side. The moment we became a AFL club that takes precedent, same as any football club, the senior flags and senior side mean more. Also the SANFL split our two clubs apart for how long? About 15-16 years wasn't. That had nothing to do with the club. It isn't local footy where you load up the reserves for a flag when the seniors can't win one, the reserves and seniors model is to get players ready for AFL games, as it should be.

As for our history, more so our AFL history, since 1997, and this will get me absolutely hammered on here, but maybe it's been a burden on the club since we became a AFL club. We blew three finals series in a row, two of which we would've almost been favourites for the flag in 2002 & 2003, before winning it 2004. That was as un-Port Adelaide historically as it got. Did it diminish our Premiership at all? No it made it even sweeter and more cherished and the realization should've been there when we won that, and how, how much harder the AFL is then the SANFL ever was. Our only other grand final appearance in 2007 was a disaster, we got embarrassed on the day, badly. But the manner we made that Grand Final was the old Port Adelaide, with close wins, heart and soul and we had no right to be there that day.

By all means people can be angry about the decision, nor am I having a go at you or your post, but some clarity is needed.

If the players, coaches and staff think this is the way forward for this group, then we may as well support the three guys, Ollie and TJ as co-captains, and Hammer as vice, then ruin their moment.
 
Hinkley talks about how big a role the captaincy is and how both Rockliff and Boak said that having someone to share the load with them would have made them better leaders.

That just tells me that both were shit leaders, honestly.

And that picture is in front of Hart’s Mill. That’s telling the true story. We all know that if Hartlett was fit all year last year none of this shit would be happening.
 
Hang on a minute.

The club never gave up the zones, the SANFL took them away, that's clear as day.
The club signed off on it. We could have easily held tight on the issue.

We had about 7 or 8 listed AFL players in the Maggies in 2013 I think, we could have kept giving transfer fees for our AFL listed players from other SANFL clubs and kept drafting our AFL listed players in the SANFL mini-draft.
 
I hate how they spin it by saying this will help us win football games....

It won’t

But if we win one more game than last year - they were right and we can all go get stuffed for questioning the powers that be.

Bar is set so ****ing unbelievably low at ports.
 

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The club signed off on it. We could have easily held tight on the issue.

We had about 7 or 8 listed AFL players in the Maggies in 2013 I think, we could have kept giving transfer fees for our AFL listed players from other SANFL clubs and kept drafting our AFL listed players in the SANFL mini-draft.
The club didn't have much choice, we couldn't afford and weren't allowed to pay the boys as much.

The sooner the club is out of the SANFL, and into the AFL reserves comp the better. The SANFL has served it's purpose time to move on.
 
Hinkley talks about how big a role the captaincy is and how both Rockliff and Boak said that having someone to share the load with them would have made them better leaders.

That just tells me that both were shit leaders, honestly.

And that picture is in front of Hart’s Mill. That’s telling the true story. We all know that if Hartlett was fit all year last year none of this shit would be happening.
Maybe the concept of a single leader is outdated?

The authoritarian nature of most workplaces, schools and homes may be commonplace, but it should certainly be questioned and pushed back on.
 
The club didn't have much choice, we couldn't afford and weren't allowed to pay the boys as much.

The sooner the club is out of the SANFL, and into the AFL reserves comp the better. The SANFL has served it's purpose time to move on.
I don't like the people that run the SANFL but I also don't like the people that run the AFL either. We will lose our Prison Bars forever if we leave.
 
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Ollie with the dead arm.
Ollie named first in the leadership announcement.

Ollie taking centre stage with the football in the Harts Mill photo flanked by Jonas and Hartlett.

Going forward, everything will be symbollically charged with the subconscious desire of the club to have appointed Ollie as a single captain despite however they try to rationalise it.
 
I don't like the people that run the SANFL but I also don't like the people that run the AFL either. We will lose our Prison Bars forever if we leave.
I understand that. But is it worth keeping that to be behind the 17 other clubs in a reserves comp, therefore our senior side being behind the rest?
 
Hinkley talks about how big a role the captaincy is and how both Rockliff and Boak said that having someone to share the load with them would have made them better leaders.

That just tells me that both were shit leaders, honestly.

You only have to look at the Hodge & Mitchell model to know thats not really true
 

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