Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[Borussia Teeth]

Perfect timing: Collingwood Vs Port next Sunday.
Please bring the prison bar jumpers to wear when singing the song, after Port beats Collingwood by 10 goals.

 

[Back One Out]

Port Power: we exist to whinge about everything

 

[Boston tiger]

The way to kill this off is for Collingwood to adopt the prison bars. Port supporters are happy that their tradition and heritage is on display every week and Collingwood get to wear a really cool jumper.

In hindsight if Norwood with their amazing 30 premierships and rich arse suburb had joined instead Port ... Norwood could have kept being the red legs and just changed the jumper a bit. Maybe all red. Because in the end it’s all about the uniform.

 

[doppleganger]

Okay, what about the multiple examples in the closed North American leagues of teams wearing the same colours?

Bulls/Blazers/Raptors
Maple Leafs/Lightning
Patriots/Texans

I don't know if you follow US sports very closely

But NBA singlets have the team names splattered across the front.
All three have different fonts, and styles and considering they fecking have the team name plastered on them the fact they contain red, white and black doesn't really matter.

Same with NHL, the leafs are recognised by the leaf....one team has a leaf the other a fecking big lightning bolt on the front.



That is like saying Geelong and Carlton are the same because the both wear navy and white.

And the NFL the big part of the uniform is the helmet, the still retain a single helmet colour rule (although talk to change to enable teams to introduce throw backs).

Pats v Texans, again pretty easy to tell apart



US sports put the Massive emphasis on names and logos as part of the kit....AFL doesn't.

We don't plonk MAGPIES or POWER across the front of the jumper. We also don't focus on the logo like NHL, or introduce a helmet as critical part of uniform like NFL.

What the AFL/VFL has done is protect the individual jumpers of competing clubs, new clubs entering have changed if an existing club already playing in same design/colour combo.

If the wharf pylons are sooooooo important to Port, change the colour combination....the black n white is aligned to the Port Magpies, a part of your heritage that you are OK to move on from....just like the old Port Magpies song and basically everything else that was replaced by the Power.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I don't know if you follow US sports very closely

But NBA singlets have the team names splattered across the front. View attachment 1129765View attachment 1129766
All three have different fonts, and styles and considering they fecking have the team name plastered on them the fact they contain red, white and black doesn't really matter.

Same with NHL, the leafs are recognised by the leaf....one team has a leaf the other a fecking big lightning bolt on the front.

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That is like saying Geelong and Carlton are the same because the both wear navy and white.

And the NFL the big part of the uniform is the helmet, the still retain a single helmet colour rule (although talk to change to enable teams to introduce throw backs).

Pats v Texans, again pretty easy to tell apart

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US sports put the Massive emphasis on names and logos as part of the kit....AFL doesn't.

We don't plonk MAGPIES or POWER across the front of the jumper. We also don't focus on the logo like NHL, or introduce a helmet as critical part of uniform like NFL.

What the AFL/VFL has done is protect the individual jumpers of competing clubs, new clubs entering have changed if an existing club already playing in same design/colour combo.

If the wharf pylons are sooooooo important to Port, change the colour combination....the black n white is aligned to the Port Magpies, a part of your heritage that you are OK to move on from....just like the old Port Magpies song and basically everything else that was replaced by the Power.

The Bars and Collingwood's stripes are far more distinct in design from each other than the Maple Leafs and Lightning jerseys.

AFL guernseys are also covered in logos and both Port and Collingwood display their club logo on their guernseys.

Your post just furthers my point that shared colours doesn't mean overlapping brands. The identities of Collingwood and Port are quite distinct and Port further wearing a jumper it's already very well known for doesn't change that.

Try again.

 

[netslave]

Just wear your prison bar jumper against Collingwood and pay the fines with the money you make from the jumper merch you sell.
I don't think any other clubs apart from Collingwood really care what jumpers you wear tbh.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Just wear your prison bar jumper against Collingwood and pay the fines with the money you make from the jumper merch you sell.
I don't think any other clubs apart from Collingwood really care what jumpers you wear tbh.

We absolutely would have just worn the prison bars in the Showdown and paid the fine, but Gil threatened to dock us 4 points if we did.

 

[Pick4To6]

Thats not the incorrect bit.

Why don’t you just tell us the incorrect part.

 

[bomberclifford]

Why don’t you just tell us the incorrect part.

“The Port Adelaide Power est 1995”

But you already knew that.

 

[Engimal v3]

“The Port Adelaide Power est 1995”

But you already knew that.

It's 1996, isn't it? Then they entered the comp in 97.

 

[bomberclifford]

It's 1996, isn't it? Then they entered the comp in 97.

The bid for the second license was prepared during 92-94 and awarded in 95.
Port were originally slated to enter the AFL in 96, however this was pushed back to 97.
PAFC members were consulted in 1990 and again around 1992.
The bid cost was covered by fundraising and sponsors of PAFC.

Are you suggesting all of this was done by someone other than the Port Adelaide Football Club? By an entity that was yet to exist?

Or are you (and others) suggesting that PAFC did all this and then gave it to a completely different entity, sent itself to Ethelton, to remain playing in the SANFL, the exact opposite to what it had been campaigning for over the past decade?

 

[Engimal v3]

The bid for the second license was prepared during 92-94 and awarded in 95.
Port were originally slated to enter the AFL in 96, however this was pushed back to 97.
PAFC members were consulted in 1990 and again around 1992.
The bid cost was covered by fundraising and sponsors of PAFC.

Are you suggesting all of this was done by someone other than the Port Adelaide Football Club? By an entity that was yet to exist?

Or are you (and others) suggesting that PAFC did all this and then gave it to a completely different entity, sent itself to Ethelton, to remain playing in the SANFL, the exact opposite to what it had been campaigning for over the past decade?

Oh ok, so 95 was correct. Apologies for the confusion.

 

[doppleganger]

The Bars and Collingwood's stripes are far more distinct in design from each other than the Maple Leafs and Lightning jerseys.

AFL guernseys are also covered in logos and both Port and Collingwood display their club logo on their guernseys.

Your post just furthers my point that shared colours doesn't mean overlapping brands. The identities of Collingwood and Port are quite distinct and Port further wearing a jumper it's already very well known for doesn't change that.

Try again.

Who in the AFL cares about shared colours?

Geelong and Carlton both are navy blue in white.

By comparison with US sports, team names and branding logos are an afterthough....tacked on in the corner above the AFL badge.

In US the team name and logo IS the main part of the kit.....Chicago have played in green singlets before....but it is the big CHICAGO lettering that is what people identify with.

In the AFL Port are not known for wearing black n white stripes. Port trying to introduce a jumper that another club is already well known for obviously creates an issue in a league where jumper design is the important identifier.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Who in the AFL cares about shared colours?

Geelong and Carlton both are navy blue in white.

By comparison with US sports, team names and branding logos are an afterthough....tacked on in the corner above the AFL badge.

In US the team name and logo IS the main part of the kit.....Chicago have played in green singlets before....but it is the big CHICAGO lettering that is what people identify with.

In the AFL Port are not known for wearing black n white stripes. Port trying to introduce a jumper that another club is already well known for obviously creates an issue in a league where jumper design is the important identifier.

This “other leagues” angle of argument that power supporters are still pushing is, and always has been, completely irrelevant.

I mean... Who gives a flying **** what other leagues around the world do or have done in the past. This is the AFL we’re discussing here.

They are only pushing it because they havent got a decent argument at all.. so they’re just desperately trying to muddy the waters with irrelevant garbage.

They try and accuse the pies of negotiating in bad faith.. yet argue their own position in bad faith!

 

[pietoon]

We absolutely would have just worn the prison bars in the Showdown and paid the fine, but Gil threatened to dock us 4 points if we did.

Mate what part of no it’s not going to happen, no matter how much you stamp your feet and spit your dummy like a little child because Daddy said no do you not get.

You and your other barnacle and clam mates that are so attached to these pylons, have taken your eyes off the ball and it’s starting to derail your season.

Surely in this day of age you understand No means No, move on it’s not going to happen it’s becoming rather pathetic...

 

[parano1a]

The identities of Collingwood and Port are quite distinct and Port further wearing a jumper it's already very well known for doesn't change that.

In the AFL competition, Port is best known for the colour teal. No other team wears teal, so I'd say its a core part of the Port Adelaide brand.
Black and white might be the club's history, but teal is the present and the future.
Replace all of the white in the prison bars jumper with teal (keep white for number panel) and you'll be honouring the club's history, present and future.
This would also give the club a unique brand which is clearly distinct from Collingwood.

The original black and white prison bar could still be used for Heritage Rounds or actual special occasions (150th anniversary being an example).

 

[Lagooner]

What the AFL/VFL has done is protect the individual jumpers of competing clubs, new clubs entering have changed if an existing club already playing in same design/colour combo.

Lol there are two clubs in the VFL called the Tigers and both wear black and gold.

 

[sherb]

Reinstate the heritage round, with Port allowed to wear the prison bar guernsey in this round.

In addition, all winning teams in the heritage round to change into the PB guernsey to sing the team song.

Problem solved.

 

[doppleganger]

Lol there are two clubs in the VFL called the Tigers and both wear black and gold.

Werribee don't have black with a yellow sash?

There are also two Lions.

Nobody cares if Port wear black n white, you already do that with your Chevron jumper.

 

[Lagooner]

Werribee don't have black with a yellow sash?

There are also two Lions.

Nobody cares if Port wear black n white, you already do that with your Chevron jumper.

Lol turn it up! If that were true we wouldn’t have added teal and silver as club colours. It’s at the very core of the issue.

Our current guernsey isn’t just black and white, it has teal on it. Werribee’s guernsey is exclusively black and gold AND they are called the Tigers. Just like Richmond. Would Port get away with a black guernsey/single white chevron, no teal, AND be called the Magpies? Because that’s apples with apples.

 

[parano1a]

Lol there are two clubs in the VFL called the Tigers and both wear black and gold.

The VFL is a feeder league, basically a mix of the AFL reserves comp with teams from former VFA and now NEAFL thrown in.
I doubt anyone would care if Port's reserves team moved from the SANFL to the VFL and kept their jumpers and Magpie nickname.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Just wear your prison bar jumper against Collingwood and pay the fines with the money you make from the jumper merch you sell.
I don't think any other clubs apart from Collingwood really care what jumpers you wear tbh.

If Port dared to that against Collingwood, the AFL would not only fine them a Million dollars plus, but strip them of all premiership points and possibly bar them from the draft.


It would be a blatant act of defiance against THE AFL more than Collingwood.

I support Port 100 % to wear Prison Bars in the AFL, but doing it against Collingwood is the height of insanity.

 

[doppleganger]

Lol turn it up! If that were true we wouldn’t have added teal and silver as club colours. It’s at the very core of the issue.

Our current guernsey isn’t just black and white, it has teal on it. Werribee’s guernsey is exclusively black and gold AND they are called the Tigers. Just like Richmond. Would Port get away with a black guernsey/single white chevron, no teal, AND be called the Magpies? Because that’s apples with apples.

The issue is black n white stripes.

Nobody cares that Port Melbourne play in blue and red, like Casey/Melbourne....as it is a different design.

Werribee play with a big W on their jumper, it isn't a sash like Richmond.

Nobody cares that Geelong and Carlton both play in navy blue and white, as the designs are completely different.

Port has added new colours, so incorporate those colours into the wharf pylon design and you have a winner. If not jog on.

 

[Pistol Night]

Just wear your prison bar jumper against Collingwood and pay the fines with the money you make from the jumper merch you sell.
I don't think any other clubs apart from Collingwood really care what jumpers you wear tbh.

**** me now you want to wear it against the Pies. Im all for Showdowns but give up on this dumb **** idea

 

[Chuckie357]

Are they still squealing about this??? For a club with such “proud” history and heritage I’d say their supporters didn’t seem very proud at Saturday nights game - 32,787 was the crowd figure. Did I miss somehting? Last week was obviously prison bars/heritage round because they made a huge song and dance about it so was this week throwback/tarps round??? Or did the fair weather supporters think they weren’t going to win so didn’t bother going?

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