Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[BronCrow]

On topic though, whilst I can see Port's point, they did agree to the original terms of entry coming in to the AFL. It is not completely unreasonable that they are held to those terms.

On the other hand, for one or 2 games a year, I don't see the harm either. Eddie, as he has a tendancy to do, is making a big fuss of nothing. Though I suspect Kochie is pushing so hard for this so he can appease the membership, some of whom are not entirely happy with the state of the club at the minute.

 

[moses]

Sturt are the blues though. I doubt Carlton would just let that slide.

Double Blues

 

[Underarm]

Double Blues

You think that would matter to Carlton?

 

[Adz2332]

Yes, it's tradition they wear prison bars in the SANFL.

If you are not talking about tradition, then what are you talking about?

we are honouring our first few guernseys. Geelong havent cared about our blue hoop guernsey.
But ask anyone about the port magpies, they will say black and white prison bars. like it or not Port is black and white.

Add to the fact that our and collingwoods guernsey dont look alike really when you get down to it. Its easy enough to say whos is whos

 

[Pear1870]

ok so you guys have just totally missed the part where a Port fan erroneously stated that North Melbourne/Richmond/Footscray & Hawthorn formed in the year they joined the VFL - thus ignoring their pre VFL history

Not intentional if I get any wrong. Any continuous involvement with different football associations of course counts. My reference was a VFL reference. The VFA and any other association of course would also count (eg SANFL, WAFL etc)

What i have seen, Hawthorn did not have a pre VFL history.
North Melbourne is not continuous. They disbanded,then had a differ name for awhile before becoming North Melbourne again.
Absolutely got it wrong with Richmond Western Bulldogs, sorry tiger and bulldog people.
If there are others, again apologies .

The point to my original post is highlighting the length of time Port have worn black and white
and in response to another post. I believe the club has earned the right to display its history at set approved occasions during a season just as other clubs have the same right. IMO, the decision is an AFL one, not Collingwood Football Club. Others of course will disagree.

 

[moses]

You think that would matter to Carlton?

I would hope not. As many posters have pointed, so many clubs in far bigger leagues than the AFL share colours and ever gurnsey designs. AFL seems a little precious in this regard. I'm not sure anyone would mistake Carlton or Sturt.

 

[Adz2332]

Kochie Vs Eddie........

no one will come out a winner....

 

[radiojake]

No whats poetic is in a decades time whilst the pafc is still running around 160 years after it was established, the sanfl will either be extinct or a feeder league to the afl and not some supposed 2nd best stand alone league in Australia. Now that's poetic.

you could argue both are poetic

Not intentional if I get any wrong. Any continuous involvement with different football associations of course counts. My reference was a VFL reference. The VFA and any other association of course would also count (eg SANFL, WAFL etc)

What i have seen, Hawthorn did not have a pre VFL history.
North Melbourne is not continuous. They disbanded,then had a differ name for awhile before becoming North Melbourne again.
Absolutely got it wrong with Richmond Western Bulldogs, sorry tiger and bulldog people.
If there are others, again apologies .

The point to my original post is highlighting the length of time Port have worn black and white
and in response to another post. I believe the club has earned the right to display its history at set approved occasions during a season just as other clubs have the same right. IMO, the decision is an AFL one, not Collingwood Football Club. Others of course will disagree.

yeah all good I know what your point was

I just couldn't let it go by unnoticed that a Port fan was ignoring pre-VFL/AFL club history of other clubs

 

[Muddiemoose]

Eddie and Kosh both gonna be pissed when they see the maryborough footy club

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Thats the point
Richmond were formed in 1885 and entered the then VFL in 1908
Saying a Richmond were formed in 1908 is akin to saying Port were formed in 1997 - it’s wrong.

I’ve never said that, I 100% am in agreement that Richmond was formed in 1885... the competition a club plays for does not determine when it was created. our clubs entered this comp but we’re formed years prior. Anyone who thinks otherwise has rocks in their heads

 

[DaTBird187]

What colours were Port wearing 150 years ago?

Not the same as the ones we've worn for 120 of those 150 years. But thanks for asking.

From https://www.collingwoodmagpies.net/

When the club was formed for entry into the Victorian Football Association(VFA) they were unable to use the colours that had represented the Britannia Football Club given Footscray (now known as Western Bulldogs) already wore, and had registered the royal colours of red, white and blue in the VFA. Therefore for entry into the VFA the colours needed to change.

McFarlane & Roberts (2005) suggest that William Samuel Crawley is credited with promoting the colours and design after sighting this on the inter-colonial team of South Australia whilst watching them take on Victoria at Adelaide Oval on Saturday 13th June, 1891. The design of the South Australia inter-colonial team was reported within 'The Advertiser' newspaper (June 15, 1891) as Our men were dressed in black and white striped guernseys, white knickers, and black stockings....

 

[Hawkk]

Not intentional if I get any wrong. Any continuous involvement with different football associations of course counts. My reference was a VFL reference. The VFA and any other association of course would also count (eg SANFL, WAFL etc)

What i have seen, Hawthorn did not have a pre VFL history.
North Melbourne is not continuous. They disbanded,then had a differ name for awhile before becoming North Melbourne again.
Absolutely got it wrong with Richmond Western Bulldogs, sorry tiger and bulldog people.
If there are others, again apologies .

The point to my original post is highlighting the length of time Port have worn black and white
and in response to another post. I believe the club has earned the right to display its history at set approved occasions during a season just as other clubs have the same right. IMO, the decision is an AFL one, not Collingwood Football Club. Others of course will disagree.

Wrong

An original Hawthorn club was formed in 1873 but the current club has operated continuously since 1902 - first in the equivalent of the ESDFL and then in the VFA since 1914.

The Hawks have more AFL flags (13 flags) then any other dating back to 1914 (11 years before they were invited to join the AFL)

With one flag since 1997 it’s fair to say that the Port Adelaide Power club haven’t made a mark in the premier competition...

 

[mcgarnacle]

Plenty of football clubs around the world have similar kits. Eddie needs to stop being so insecure on behalf of Collingwood.

the AFL is an 18-team League. each club has its identity.

 

[HTT]

I’ve never said that, I 100% am in agreement that Richmond was formed in 1885... the competition a club plays for does not determine when it was created. our clubs entered this comp but we’re formed years prior. Anyone who thinks otherwise has rocks in their heads

I know you never said that, but the whole thing comes from someone who did

 

[Fabab]

They should be able to wear it as long as its not against mcguires mob.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Wrong

An original Hawthorn club was formed in 1873 but the current club has operated continuously since 1902 - first in the equivalent of the ESDFL and then in the VFA since 1914.

The Hawks have more AFL flags (13 flags) then any other dating back to 1914 (11 years before they were invited to join the AFL)

With one flag since 1997 it’s fair to say that the Port Adelaide Power club haven’t made a mark in the premier competition...

“Port Adelaide Power Club” what

 

[Fabab]

Imagine threatening to take it to court if they wear it once next year,petulant arrogant flog.

 

[DaTBird187]

Eddie McGuire trying to desperately to stay relevant these days. It's kinda pathetic to kick up a storm about this and it would be good if the AFL for once came out and established exactly who runs the competition.

Strange situation where Pies supporters are generally quite reasonable - see this thread for examples - but their president gets triggered by the smallest things and foams at the mouth.

Time for Collingwood to stop letting this hasbeen be the embodiment of their club, the club is much more than Eddie and will be a force long after he is gone.

Agreed. I've seen the vast majority of Collingwood fans be respectful and receptive of the request. It doesn't seem to affect Liverpool and Manchester United. Far more global brands than our little ol' Aussie rules teams.

Hell, we even played Collingwood in a 1990s pre-season game wearing them.

 

[DaTBird187]

This topic is pretty funny

I personally don't care either way if Port wear the prison bars or not, but I do find it a little bit funny they are pushing it to wear against the Crows, who according to them are a shit club/no history - But they wanna pull out a traditional jumper against us? I thought the Crows were irrelevant

as an aside, though, the prison bar actually clashes when Crows have white shorts on and Port have the white number panel - The Crows & Port should both wear probably clash jumpers but maybe I'm too much of a pragmatist for others to agree with that

finally I actually think North Melbourne's jumper is closer to Collingwood than Port's (well, it was until they inverted it)
It makes you wonder why design isn't trademarked but colours are? Bit weird

We want to wear them against the Crows, because we can then be all like.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Not the same as the ones we've worn for 120 of those 150 years. But thanks for asking.

From https://www.collingwoodmagpies.net/

Yep this is all true, not sure why you brought it up though, Collingwood are not asking to wear the Bulldogs colours.

But when we celebrate our 150th year, i do hope they wear the colours in memory of where the club started.

 

[DaTBird187]

Some people have handled lockdown well, others not so well. Eddie is clearly in the latter bucket.

He's about to burst. He looks like that dude from Big Trouble in Little China who explodes.

 

[DaTBird187]

find a quote? Ive heard plenty of port fans say it. Next time i find one ill send it through to you.
Collingwood may have stolen it from someone, but at the end of the day nothing is original. Comparisons can be found in anything. But i never said in my post that Collingwood came up with it. Simply that they didnt take it from port which seems to be the narrative.

No Port fan I know has ever thought or said that.

If you find one I'll kick them in the balls myself.

 

[Harro59]

Again I feel that all of this shows how badly we need the footy back.

 

[DaTBird187]

Sturt are the blues though. I doubt Carlton would just let that slide.

Sturt are the Double Blues. So Carlton lose again.

 

[Powerade 08]

There is no reasonable argument against Port wearing whatever they choose to.

Signing a shitty deal does not mean you need to be held to it for eternity. Especially if it won't even hold up in court.

Unless you are Eddie or an extremely insecure Collingwood fan, there is no reason for you to care about what Port does.