Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 23

[Enviable Tradition]

Literally nobody outside of AFL House likes the sub rule.

Or the stand rule, or the ruck nomination rule, or the protected zone rule, or the ...

I like the sub rule, and allowing tactical subs makes it better.

I also like the stand rule.

 

[Jonts]

Tactical subs?

Whats Aaron Young

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[Schulzenfest]

6-6-6 is ******* atrocious and always has been. Its probably worse than the stand rule which is really saying something.

Weird that out of all the new rules this is the one you have a problem with? 6-6-6 is fine, I'm not passionately in favour of it or anything but I barely notice it. It certainly doesn't interrupt the flow of the game the way the rules I mentioned do.

 

[El Zorro]

I still haven't seen one solid argument against subs.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

So, Yes

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Weird that out of all the new rules this is the one you have a problem with? 6-6-6 is fine, I'm not passionately in favour of it or anything but I barely notice it. It certainly doesn't interrupt the flow of the game the way the rules I mentioned do.

Nah I have a problem with most of them, this is just the one that was mentioned in the thread when I made the post.

Just about the only ones I don't mind are the sub rule and the rules that protect the head - though even those because laughable because the AFL doesn't consistently apply them, for example when a Carlton star might miss out on a Brownlow if the rule is applied correctly.

 

[Andre]

What is the argument against just having a 5 man bench?
Why do they feel the need to complicate it with a sub?

It comes down to the AFL can't admit the sub was a bad idea. The AFL has to be dragged kicking and screaming to admit anything they've done was the wrong decision. Even then only if there's no other option.

This smacks of the worst of all worlds. It'll be young / fringe players spending most of the game on the bench, only to get a go in most cases when the game has been decided. Players will still get injured after clubs have used their sub, providing minimal injury cover.

It's either go to 5 on the bench, or 4 + Sub, where the player subbed off can't play the next week at any level full stop, so it's a real medical sub (not the 'he made a recovery from decapitation' shit level it was at). 5 on the bench is simplest. It'll cover 99% of injuries in games. Yeah, there's always the freak game where a side will be forced to have injured players out there, but outside a 10 man bench, so what?

 

[Andre]

Weird that out of all the new rules this is the one you have a problem with? 6-6-6 is fine, I'm not passionately in favour of it or anything but I barely notice it. It certainly doesn't interrupt the flow of the game the way the rules I mentioned do.

I don't mind 6-6-6, it at least forces coaches who overload defenses (cough Hinkley cough) to cover their shit selections, to start after goals with a reasonable structure. Then if they try to always flood back to compensate for undersized KPD's players get fatigued. I hold out hope it's nudging our list managers towards grabbing 2 KPD's of decent size this draft, to overcome the 'Yeah, there's nothing another 3 HBF'ers back there can't solve' mentality of the Greyhound killer.

 

[Windy Cindy]

So, Yes

no doubt they snubbed him

love to be a fly on the wall for their first meeting, sounds like he wont be as fooled as the rest of the media/teamates etc

 

[FishingRick04]

The Ruck nomination is so stupid. Just call a free if two players go up. Who cares which player it is

 

[tribey]

It comes down to the AFL can't admit the sub was a bad idea. The AFL has to be dragged kicking and screaming to admit anything they've done was the wrong decision. Even then only if there's no other option.

This smacks of the worst of all worlds. It'll be young / fringe players spending most of the game on the bench, only to get a go in most cases when the game has been decided. Players will still get injured after clubs have used their sub, providing minimal injury cover.

It's either go to 5 on the bench, or 4 + Sub, where the player subbed off can't play the next week at any level full stop, so it's a real medical sub (not the 'he made a recovery from decapitation' s**t level it was at). 5 on the bench is simplest. It'll cover 99% of injuries in games. Yeah, there's always the freak game where a side will be forced to have injured players out there, but outside a 10 man bench, so what?

Demetriou originally smashed it through with no evidence it would protect players/reduce injuries/prevent imbalance whatsoever.

Same as the reduced interchanges, which came about on the assumption that having more fatigued players would enrich the spectacle — despite fatigue being the prime culprit for skills, execution and decision-making dropping off.

 

[RossFC]

I still haven't seen one solid argument against subs.

When the SANFL game is booked the day before or on the day of an AFL game, the sub (little to no time on ground), and an emergency miss a whole week of footy at any level.

If there was no sub, only 1 player (the first emergency) misses a week.

 

[El Zorro]

When the SANFL game is booked the day before or on the day of an AFL game, the sub (little to no time on ground), and an emergency miss a whole week of footy at any level.

If there was no sub, only 1 player (the first emergency) misses a week.

OK, so we should get rid of emergencies too?

Or maybe have a sub and no emergency?

 

[RossFC]

OK, so we should get rid of emergencies too?

Ideally I'd like for SANFL games to be the day after so everyone gets a game, and no sub, so everyone gets 4 quarters.

 

[Andre]

Demetriou originally smashed it through with no evidence it would protect players/reduce injuries/prevent imbalance whatsoever.

Same as the reduced interchanges, which came about on the assumption that having more fatigued players would enrich the spectacle — despite fatigue being the prime culprit for skills, execution and decision-making dropping off.

Add in a dose of coaches would naively keep players in traditional positions more, so they don't get fatigued. As if coaches give a shit about the spectacle when they are getting flogged (except Choco of course ).

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Jimmy's home

 

[Jonts]

The Ruck nomination is so stupid. Just call a free if two players go up. Who cares which player it is

Nah.


There is certain rules to allowing the ruck a free jump at the ball

What happens if Port have say Dixon and Lycett at the same contest, who does the umpire make sure has a clear run at the ball

 

[EskimoPAFC]

When the SANFL game is booked the day before or on the day of an AFL game, the sub (little to no time on ground), and an emergency miss a whole week of footy at any level.

If there was no sub, only 1 player (the first emergency) misses a week.

This seems like an argument against the SNAFL

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

All I remember from the 98 game, apart from Carey kicking 2.49, was Mcleod dishing off about 10 goal assists in the second half.

There was some useful performances up fwd in those games...

I'm pretty sure he burnt it a bit too.

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

Jimmy's home

Hate him with a passion, but he's far better than some of the small fwds in the Crows list

 

[JimmyBC]

Hate him with a passion, but he's far better than some of the small fwds in the Crows list

He's slow and can't kick over a jam jar he's not far better than anyone.

 

[FishingRick04]

Nah.


There is certain rules to allowing the ruck a free jump at the ball

What happens if Port have say Dixon and Lycett at the same contest, who does the umpire make sure has a clear run at the ball

They will sort it out.

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

He's slow and can't kick over a jam jar he's not far better than anyone.

One word.

Ned.

 

[JimmyBC]

One word.

Ned.

As crap as Ned is he's not as painfully slow as James.

 

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