Mega Thread Port Forum General AFL Thread Part 23

[jdeezy]

Hmmm .. 19 teams. Oh goody. There are too many teams already, why can't Tasmania be done at the same time as some long overdue rationalisation in Victoria?

So the FIXture becomes even more so? Only four double-ups and of course a bye, which will be strategic for some teams and not so for others (for example, whoever gets the bye in the first few weeks). In a hypothetical scenario based on our last season we could get one top 6 (Geelong), two middle 6 (Bulldogs, Richmond) and one bottom 6 (Adelaide).

Now that they've locked in a 23rd game I can't see them leaving money on the table and reversing that decision, so I figure when it goes to 19 teams it'll go back to being 5 double ups.

I'm a bit torn on the cutting teams thing, obviously for the good of the game you'd honestly want to try and bring the comp back to 18 teams, hell, even 16, but on the other hand I do mostly feel bad for the minnow team fans who would lose their team (I said mostly, North fans are doing a good job reversing my feelings lately) and know that were we in the same position we'd be on the chopping block so there's a bit of sympathy. Though statistically less teams means more chance we win, maybe we should be culling 17 teams

 

[backtozero]

Just get rid of the Suns.

Does anyone think that in 10 years time they won't still be a rabble?

 

[Capital Power]

Just get rid of the Suns.

Does anyone think that in 10 years time they won't still be a rabble?

Except they exist to give Victorian Clubs two bites at the draft apple every year.

 

[tribey]

Zane Duursma

Xavier
Yasmin
Zane

 

[PatientMental]

Xavier
Yasmin
Zane

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its absolutely deliberate.

shame they didnt have another couple

aa-ron
ab-bey

 

[TeeKray]

Xavier
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There's a third brother called Willem lol.

 

[TazD]

There's a third brother called Willem lol.

Being the youngest they should have named hin Whoops

 

[1954]

The Gold Coast Suns got the licence that should have gone to Tassie, they have been a rabble from day 1 and there are still no signs that is going to change any time soon.

 

[TeeKray]

The AFL view it as important for their national footprint to have a game in each state each weekend, hence the SUNS and hence why no non Victorian club will go.

The 10 Victorian clubs are all important - even the tiny, shitty, irrelevant ones - because they concentrate the power in Victoria so that the old VFL ways are maintained and the premiership cup only rarely leaves the state.

We are stuck with too many teams forever.

 

[Festerz]

The AFL view it as important for their national footprint to have a game in each state each weekend, hence the SUNS and hence why no non Victorian club will go.

The 10 Victorian clubs are all important - even the tiny, shitty, irrelevant ones - because they concentrate the power in Victoria so that the old VFL ways are maintained and the premiership cup only rarely leaves the state.

We are stuck with too many teams forever.

Spot on.

The last time the AFL tried to rationalise the number of clubs in Victoria was when they dangled a $100m carrot in front of North to get them to form the backbone for the Gold Coast Suns.

That ended in disaster on 2 fronts. First of all the Board members who owned the shares in the NMFC rejected the offer and transferred their shares to the Club free of charge, making it a fully member owned club. Secondly, the AFL pushed ahead anyway and significantly under-resourced the new Gold Coast Club leading to the point where it had zero chance of being competitive or sustainable as a stand alone entity. We now have a mix of ownership structures across the AFL with 2 under private ownership (Eagles, Dockers - owned by the WAFC); 5 effectively owned by the AFL (Port, Crows, Suns Giants, Swans) and 11 member owned (Lions, Bulldogs, Geelong, Demons, Hawks, Saints, Tigers, North, Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon).

McLachlan made a commitment that the number of clubs in Victoria will NOT be reduced and as there is no way I can see any of the Victorian clubs agreeing or being forced to merge or fold.

IMHO what is needed BEFORE yet another club is introduced into the AFL is a full independent review of the state of the game and the way to build a proper base for the future. Much like the 1992 Crawford Report that led to the a revision of the AFL Commission powers and national competition. But that will never happen because, under the leadership of Demetriou and McLachlan, the AFL is not interested in what is good for the game, it only wants what is best for AFL House.

 

[Byrons Firen]

So, Yes

Edwards when asked by Rowe if the Richmond players snubbed Walker after the Rd5 game

"I can't remember to be honest"... yeah right, well all i'd say is "your lying... to be honest."

I know he had no other option when Rowe corners him with the now obligatory nickname*

"Tich is it true that the Richmond players snubbed Taylor Walker after(the crows) beat them(wink wink) in Rd5

The TBH was cringeworthy. I'd like to ask Edwards whether he's going to teach the crows his particular

tackling technique that is so effective in causing long term injuries to players like Duursma and Butters.



* Their ambassadors love to drop nicknames to reinforce the fact they're trying to be a footy club.

 

[raptalia]

The AFL is a schitfest. It started as an expanded VFL and has never been anything else.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Spot on.

The last time the AFL tried to rationalise the number of clubs in Victoria was when they dangled a $100m carrot in front of North to get them to form the backbone for the Gold Coast Suns.

That $100m was bullshit. It included 7 years of normal AFL distributions and $10m to redvelop Arden Street, when they were supposed to move to the GC. I crunched the numbers at the time and put them up on the North board and it was only a $35m or so benefit for them to more north, compared to staying put.

 

[VineValerian]

There's a third brother called Willem lol.

Willem who?
Willem D?

 

[Enviable Tradition]

The AFL view it as important for their national footprint to have a game in each state each weekend, hence the SUNS and hence why no non Victorian club will go.

The 10 Victorian clubs are all important - even the tiny, shitty, irrelevant ones - because they concentrate the power in Victoria so that the old VFL ways are maintained and the premiership cup only rarely leaves the state.

We are stuck with too many teams forever.

So Launceston next?

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[TeeKray]

So Launceston next?

On SM-G975F using BigFooty.com mobile app

Tasmania don't really count.

They'll probably put a team in the NT next.

 

[tribey]

Tasmania is like the Bandy Tract in There Will Be Blood.

Generations who are lifelong fans of other clubs = DRAINAGE!

 

[Dylan8]

So, Yes

Very principled stuff Shane. The league is so insular lol and if you're making money somewhere you just have to drop any pretense of a moral stand hey

 

[Dylan8]

and McKenna wouldn't be playing for beer raffle money.

You know any Irish people in Australia, Ford?

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[PowerLil]

De Koning has a very long arm.

 

[Steve Dore]

PAFC tweet about ex-Ports player winning award with pic of Ports player is non-Ports?

Look here

 

[Festerz]

That $100m was bullshit. It included 7 years of normal AFL distributions and $10m to redvelop Arden Street, when they were supposed to move to the GC. I crunched the numbers at the time and put them up on the North board and it was only a $35m or so benefit for them to more north, compared to staying put.

Thanks for clarifying that.

I quoted it straight from the Michael Warner 'Boys Club' Book that came out this year. Not surprised it is an estimate full of holes.

When you google 'North Melbourne re-location' you get to understand just how many times the issue has been in discussion over the past 30 years:

Proposed relocation of the North Melbourne Football Club

The Proposed relocation of the North Melbourne Football Club has been an ongoing issue involving the North Melbourne Football Club since the mid-1990s. It has involved proposals that the club, during financially difficult times, move to several locations most notably the Gold Coast which was...

australian-rules-football.fandom.com

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Thanks for clarifying that.

I quoted it straight from the Michael Warner 'Boys Club' Book that came out this year. Not surprised it is an estimate full of holes.

When you google 'North Melbourne re-location' you get to understand just how many times the issue has been in discussion over the past 30 years:

Proposed relocation of the North Melbourne Football Club

The Proposed relocation of the North Melbourne Football Club has been an ongoing issue involving the North Melbourne Football Club since the mid-1990s. It has involved proposals that the club, during financially difficult times, move to several locations most notably the Gold Coast which was...

australian-rules-football.fandom.com

The difference between North and South Melbourne and Fitzroy was that in 2007 they had the only gold premiership cup that was 11 years old and another one that was 8 years old. Their fans were never going to agree to a shift.

 

[OneGreatClub]

PAFC tweet about ex-Ports player winning award with pic of Ports player is non-Ports?

I confess I didn’t look for the Georgie thread and thought that as it had Geelong players it could go here