Port to do it comfortably

[demondavey]

As much as it pains me to say this, i beleive the power will be too strong for geelong. I will probably receive a lot of stick for this from passionate cats fans and maybe other neutral supporters but look at it this way, the power won a flag in 04 - only three years ago, they have the perfect combination of experience and youth, they are tough and determined, they have the best coach in the competition and they know when to go. These guys have a mental edge over the cats, having beaten them in rd 21. The cats wont forget that and would rather be playing anyone else but port. Its been a long year for geelong, they just scraped through last weekend against a spirited collingwood, who mind you, port adelaide are a lot better than, and copped a fair knock about physically. Port have the goods, they have the right tempo and they have the premiership experience. No Egan for geelong is going to really hurt, ottens against lade/brogan will test, the midfield is going to be too fast - burgoyne x2, cornes x2, rodan, pearce..... tredrea is arrogant/experienced and will provide a physical handful with no egan to subdue him. The cats will wet themselves i am afraid, this resurgent port adelaide is the feel good story of the year.

 

[josh_eagles]

Couldn't agree more

11 premiership players to 1 (I think I heard Mooney played for Kangaroos when they won, I may be wrong). I think they'll have more experience and get over the line (quite easily in fact)

 

[Clay Davis]

Didn't the Swans have something like 20 premiership players to the Eagles 1 last year? And come off a good win over Fremantle, at home, while the Eagles had to battle out against Adelaide at AAMI?

Premiership experience is meaningless. There's also around 11 players who have debuted for Port in the past 2 years, and are VERY green.

Beyond whichever Burgoyne fires and the Cornes, Port's midfield is second rate.

 

[BrownDog#20]

Geelong may have had a hard game last week but that may have just been what they needed.

People are saying they have lost a bit of form in they way the played last week but the game before they beat the roos by over 100 points. ( a team port beat by less than that on the weekend in adelaide )

Cats are all class, they will win.

 

[Clay Davis]

Essendon had more premiership success than Collingwood in 1990
Carlton had more premiership success than Essendon in 1993
Essendon had more premiership success than Brisbane in 2001
Brisbane had more premiership success than Port Adelaide in 2004
Sydney had more premiership success than West Coast in 2006.

Hawthorn lost almost as many grand finals as they won in the 80s, despite having more success than any other club going around.

MEANINGLESS

 

[MightyPWR]

Geelong may have had a hard game last week but that may have just been what they needed.

People are saying they have lost a bit of form in they way the played last week but the game before they beat the roos by over 100 points. ( a team port beat by less than that on the weekend in adelaide )

80 odd points at 3/4 time, with the match won we eased up.
No big deal.

K Cornes to wear Bartel like a glove, Dom to curb Gabletts influence as much as he can, good drive orf the back from Pettigrew, P Burgoyne, Surjan, Chaplin etc. Wakes, thurston our rocks in defence.
Young Hoff to grab some biggies up forward along with Tredders - Ebo and Motts to crumb and show some magic.

Then you have S borgoyne, C Cornes, Pearce Sal and our 2 big rucks.

Gonna be a cracking game me thinks

Go PORT!

 

[timeless]

Geelong may have had a hard game last week but that may have just been what they needed.

People are saying they have lost a bit of form in they way the played last week but the game before they beat the roos by over 100 points. ( a team port beat by less than that on the weekend in adelaide )

Cats are all class, they will win.

geez, clearly port's 87 point win over the roos proves they're nowhere near geelong's class, cos geelong beat them by 106-odd points. those 3 extra goals the cats won by make port's 14 goal win no better than kicking a goal in the final seconds to win by 5pts

i'm very excited about the game, i think port have a genuine chance to take it right to the cats and get over the line, but by the same token it could go the other way easily

i agee with the OP's points, they have a good mix of premiership experience and youth and i think playing port is geelong's worst nightmare to be frank. collingwood pushed them last week but nobody else has looked like coming close, and i think they would have easily accounted for any of hawks/kangas/adelaide in the GF

Didn't the Swans have something like 20 premiership players to the Eagles 1 last year? And come off a good win over Fremantle, at home, while the Eagles had to battle out against Adelaide at AAMI?

Premiership experience is meaningless. There's also around 11 players who have debuted for Port in the past 2 years, and are VERY green.

considering the number of eagles players that would have played in the 2005 losing grand final, only to come and win in 2006, your comparison is irrelevant. that the swans won in 2005 does not mean in 2006 their premiership players have all this experience that the eagles didn't gain

if "premiership experience" riles you so much, think of it as "grand final experience". dunno what the numbers would be then

 

[Dawn2Dark]

mental edge? are you forgetting that port almost squandered a lead of over 20 points in the final term at KP? Geelong without Ling, BARTEL & Selwood? They had a tough game against collingwood, they also flogged the roo's by more than the power did and it was on neutral ground at the G in front of a massive GF like crowd.

It will be an awesome game if round 21 is anything to go by, i love how both teams play, but Geelong are simply too determined this year.

 

[James_Best]

stuff port hope they get creamed!

158 points would be nice

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I love all these people who look to history in order to determine who will win this game. Little do they realise, what has happened before has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the result of the 2007 GF. Michael Jordan always said, "It doesn't matter how many times you've done it in the past, all that matter is you do it now".

This game will be won by the better side on the day, and I believe that team will be Geelong.

 

[Spadge]

Geelong won by 106 pts vs Kangas
Port won by 87 pts vs Kangas

no big deal at all

Choco at the club Saturday night said that he gave a direct order to a few players to "stand by the goal post and dont move"
some other more experienced guys sat out on the bench

the game was won and all we could achieve was an injury or 2
so Port put the queue in the rack and still outscored them in the last quarter

 

[Reg Hickey]

geez, clearly port's 87 point win over the roos proves they're nowhere near geelong's class, cos geelong beat them by 106-odd points. those 3 extra goals the cats won by make port's 14 goal win no better than kicking a goal in the final seconds to win by 5pts

i'm very excited about the game, i think port have a genuine chance to take it right to the cats and get over the line, but by the same token it could go the other way easily

i agee with the OP's points, they have a good mix of premiership experience and youth and i think playing port is geelong's worst nightmare to be frank. collingwood pushed them last week but nobody else has looked like coming close, and i think they would have easily accounted for any of hawks/kangas/adelaide in the GF

Should be a great game given how well these two sides have played in the second half of the season in particular.

And I don't think Geelong are the least bit worried about playing Port as opposed to anyone else. A last-gasp loss in a game that was absolutely meaningless for us (top spot being well and truly wrapped up) but meant a hell of a lot for Port in terms of ladder position, and an absolute flogging of Port at AAMI earlier in the season, means that facing the teal-boys won't hold any fears for the Cats.

considering the number of eagles players that would have played in the 2005 losing grand final, only to come and win in 2006, your comparison is irrelevant. that the swans won in 2005 does not mean in 2006 their premiership players have all this experience that the eagles didn't gain

if "premiership experience" riles you so much, think of it as "grand final experience". dunno what the numbers would be then

Still meaningless.

How many grand final and premiership players did Port have in 2004? How many did Brisbane have and how many flags had those Lions players won between them? And who won the game?

Brisbane in 2001 was the same, against the reigning premiers. There's countless other examples, I just couldn't be bothered listing them all.

 

[Mighty Reds]

I think Geelong has the ability to blow Port away if they play at their peak, in the end I think the Cats will win by 4-5 goals.

 

[Bernie L]

they have all the grand final experience. they are favourites.
yep, they should win!

 

[ROARisWAR]

As much as it pains me to say this, i beleive the power will be too strong for geelong. I will probably receive a lot of stick for this from passionate cats fans and maybe other neutral supporters but look at it this way, the power won a flag in 04 - only three years ago, they have the perfect combination of experience and youth, they are tough and determined, they have the best coach in the competition and they know when to go. These guys have a mental edge over the cats, having beaten them in rd 21. The cats wont forget that and would rather be playing anyone else but port. Its been a long year for geelong, they just scraped through last weekend against a spirited collingwood, who mind you, port adelaide are a lot better than, and copped a fair knock about physically. Port have the goods, they have the right tempo and they have the premiership experience. No Egan for geelong is going to really hurt, ottens against lade/brogan will test, the midfield is going to be too fast - burgoyne x2, cornes x2, rodan, pearce..... tredrea is arrogant/experienced and will provide a physical handful with no egan to subdue him. The cats will wet themselves i am afraid, this resurgent port adelaide is the feel good story of the year.

Wow! Should Geelong even turn up?

Port are certainties for the flag according to this logic

Having read this I'd say... Port by 8 goals+

 

[Predator.]

I'd say... Port by 8 goals+

Sounds good to me!

Cheers.

 

[Sttew]

As much as it pains me to say this, i beleive the power will be too strong for geelong. I will probably receive a lot of stick for this from passionate cats fans and maybe other neutral supporters but look at it this way, the power won a flag in 04 - only three years ago, they have the perfect combination of experience and youth, they are tough and determined, they have the best coach in the competition and they know when to go. These guys have a mental edge over the cats, having beaten them in rd 21. The cats wont forget that and would rather be playing anyone else but port. Its been a long year for geelong, they just scraped through last weekend against a spirited collingwood, who mind you, port adelaide are a lot better than, and copped a fair knock about physically. Port have the goods, they have the right tempo and they have the premiership experience. No Egan for geelong is going to really hurt, ottens against lade/brogan will test, the midfield is going to be too fast - burgoyne x2, cornes x2, rodan, pearce..... tredrea is arrogant/experienced and will provide a physical handful with no egan to subdue him. The cats will wet themselves i am afraid, this resurgent port adelaide is the feel good story of the year.

As a fervent Cats supporter, couldn't agree more, either. Let's look at the cold hard facts:

1. Yes, Port is a much tougher side than Geelong. Just look at their tough players - Westhoff, Boake, Motlop, Treadrea....Now look at the Cats - Scarlett, Rooke, Mooney, Hunt.....
2. Yes, they have a mental edge over Geelong. Cats beat Port by 50 or so points first time around in H&A, but Port smashed a Geelong side in R21 by less than a goal. They beat a team that was without 3 of its prime movers, and a side that had won 15 in a row.
3. While we're on mental toughness, lets not lose sight of the fact that Port had the ideal Prelim final, beating an insipid Kangaroos on their HOME ground. Meanwhile the Cats, playing at 40 -50% scraped home against the kings of mental toughness, Collingwood.
4. Port's midfield is vastly superior to Geelong's. Who have the Cats got? Bartel, Ablett, Selwood, Corey, Ling, + Kelly, Rooke, Enright, Wojcinski. All hacks.
5. Port players havn't got carried away, have they? No, when Treadrea bowed to the adoring fans after kicking a junk goal, and when Chad C did something similar, that was pure class.

So there you have it

 

[thunder33]

As a fervent Cats supporter, couldn't agree more, either. Let's look at the cold hard facts:

1. Yes, Port is a much tougher side than Geelong. Just look at their tough players - Westhoff, Boake, Motlop, Treadrea....Now look at the Cats - Scarlett, Rooke, Mooney, Hunt.....
2. Yes, they have a mental edge over Geelong. Cats beat Port by 50 or so points first time around in H&A, but Port smashed a Geelong side in R21 by less than a goal. They beat a team that was without 3 of its prime movers, and a side that had won 15 in a row.
3. While we're on mental toughness, lets not lose sight of the fact that Port had the ideal Prelim final, beating an insipid Kangaroos on their HOME ground. Meanwhile the Cats, playing at 40 -50% scraped home against the kings of mental toughness, Collingwood.
4. Port's midfield is vastly superior to Geelong's. Who have the Cats got? Bartel, Ablett, Selwood, Corey, Ling, + Kelly, Rooke, Enright, Wojcinski. All hacks.
5. Port players havn't got carried away, have they? No, when Treadrea bowed to the adoring fans after kicking a junk goal, and when Chad C did something similar, that was pure class.

So there you have it

Port are happy they got in the big dance and a chance at the cup. Geelong have already got the engraver out, so who is getting ahead of themselves.

 

[21knights]

Port are certainties for the flag... ... Port by 8 goals+

I have to agree with you on this one.

 

[ROARisWAR]

I have to agree with you on this one.

Nice editing

 

[thepower]

I hope so. would love nothing than to stick it up cocky geelong fans. well, if not for any other reason than to otain our 2nd afl premiership of course.

what would happen to geelong if they didnt win? it could be a geelong recession!

 

[atomic beefcake]

People are saying they have lost a bit of form in they way the played last week but the game before they beat the roos by over 100 points. ( a team port beat by less than that on the weekend in adelaide )

What a genius!!!!
By your calculations, this means Geelong will take the game by about 20 points.

But what about the fact that Port beat west coast by 3(?) points, collingwood drew with west coast, and then geelong beat collingwood by 5(?) points. Doesn;t this mean the margain will only be 2 points geelongs way.

Basically, past results mean F***k all.
The only thing that can be pulled from recent results is that Geelong are beatable.

 

[The Final Word]

Couldn't agree more

11 premiership players to 1 (I think I heard Mooney played for Kangaroos when they won, I may be wrong). I think they'll have more experience and get over the line (quite easily in fact)

What a load of bollocks.

How many premiership players did Brisbane have against Essendon in 2001?

How many premiership players did Port have against Brisbane in 2004?

How many premiership players did West Coast have against Sydney in 2006?

 

[GERVAIS]

As a fervent Cats supporter, couldn't agree more, either. Let's look at the cold hard facts:

1. Yes, Port is a much tougher side than Geelong. Just look at their tough players - Westhoff, Boake, Motlop, Treadrea....Now look at the Cats - Scarlett, Rooke, Mooney, Hunt.....

Surely you're not serious ??

 

[peternorth]

What a load of bollocks.

How many premiership players did Brisbane have against Essendon in 2001?

How many premiership players did Port have against Brisbane in 2004?

How many premiership players did West Coast have against Sydney in 2006?

yep the old experience argument is good until a new team knocks em off.