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[Faaarrk]

Not much SANFL but I've watched lots of AFLW where it's been a rule since 2018 when it applied all over the ground. Thankfully they changed it in 2019 so it doesn't apply inside 50 anymore, so we no longer see kicks to the lead that just slightly miss the target turning into a free kick.

Yes, I know it's last disposal.

Yes, the players adjust... by not taking advantage of the boundary line to kill the ball when they should and instead keeping it alive when they shouldn't, often costing them goals. Is that a good thing? Often, the only times it actually ends up being used is for unlucky bounces, or when opposition players could easily take the ball but opt to let it go out on purpose. Is that an improvement? A free kick because the ball bounced left instead of right? Is that better than one or two bad "deliberate" decisions each weekend, if that?

Again, I get the arguments for the rule, removing the need for interpretation. I just don't like it. It's a bit like the arguments for changing the scoring rules so if it hits the post and comes back in it's play on, while if it hits the post and goes through the goals you get a goal. It would make things simpler, remove ambiguities, and hell, we'd have played finals in 2023! But it would also make me shudder watching it because that's not how football is supposed to work, damn it.

I'm not saying it's a rational opinion. But it is my opinion, and to date the only reason I've ever heard someone give for the rule is that it makes the game easier to umpire and removes the howlers. Nobody has ever tried to argue that it's a better rule on the merits of the rule itself - only on the egregious examples of the previous rule being adjudicated poorly. The game is too difficult to umpire, they say. So we have to change the game itself to something nobody has even tried to argue is better on its merits, because otherwise how can we possibly expect umpires to make the right calls?

But this is a solved problem. You know what's more even difficult than umpiring? Playing football! And yet we manage to stick dozens of footballers on the ground every match, most of who play an entire game without a single howler of that magnitude. How do we achieve this amazing feat? By paying the good ones a truckload of cash, and demoting the ones who can't get it right often enough. And we have thousands of players all over the country competing like buggery to be the lucky few chosen to get on the field.

Nobody says "gee, footballers are struggling to get the ball between the big sticks often enough. We'd better widen them so it's easier for them to kick goals." No, they just pay millions of dollars to the special few who can do it regularly instead.

I know, I'm ranting. I just don't like it, simple as that.

Just have no out of bounds unless it’s over the fence. If you clean up a photographer or cameraman it’s two points, a security guard is three points added to the score.

 

[jenny61_99]

Not sure about the cult thing - but he seems right at that point of life where your brain still thinks your body is capable of doing things that it can't do anymore.

Hell, I remember that moment pretty clearly myself.

Was that when you played footy last year?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Fuxkn idiots..

All this will result in is players trying even harder to get hit head high..

You get a free kick and the opportunity to rub it into your opponent that he’s gonna be tribunal bound next week..
in an sly attempt to make him nervous about it and start thinking about that and not the task at hand..

Gillion has handed the reigns to another moron molded perfectly in his own form.. this s**t wont stop until it becomes a non contact sport..

What are you complaining about?

One of your types has taken over as footy ops boss and she was the one who predictably waved through all of these new rules. To keep the players “safe.”

You should be happy buddy.

This is her btw:

 

[MsTopG]

his wife and family need to step in and demand that he puts family, fatherhood and quality of life first


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The club should. He is unlikely to make the first 22 so it seens a no brainer that the club makes the decision for him. The club is potentially opening itself to litigation if they allow him to play and he loses his eyesight after another injury. A club needs to save a player from himself at times. Sloane clearly has no self awareness.

 

[Bearded Clam]

What are you complaining about?

One of your types has taken over as footy ops boss and she was the one who predictably waved through all of these new rules. To keep the players “safe.”

You should be happy buddy.

This is her btw:

You do know its actually possible to agree and disagree with a person’s stance on different issues right?..

Best example of this is..

I agree with a lot of the footy talk from you and Crow Till I Die in the football threads, often wholeheartedly, but disagree with the conspiracy theorist flat earther nonsense you two spew forth over on the political threads..

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Surprisingly seemingly naive post and opinion from you here.
Guess you haven't watched any sanfl over the past few years where they've had this rule.
Firstly... It's not last touch. It's last disposal.
Seriously, any game needs clear rules. Not a guess about intentions from the judges. Too often afl insufficient intent is a joke call. It needs to go.
If you watch sanfl you'll notice the rule is only utilised 4-5 times a game! Get it? Players adjust. It's clear. Simple turnover. Adjust they have, and there's no disputes, rule is clear.

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You're correct but you're also being naive. The AFL does not want to simplify the rules. The rules being obtuse is a design choice. It muddies the water enough to allow the league to engineer desired outcomes and it gives the footy media something to generate engagement. Two birds with one stone.

 

[Carmo]

Not much SANFL but I've watched lots of AFLW where it's been a rule since 2018 when it applied all over the ground. Thankfully they changed it in 2019 so it doesn't apply inside 50 anymore, so we no longer see kicks to the lead that just slightly miss the target turning into a free kick.

Yes, I know it's last disposal.

Yes, the players adjust... by not taking advantage of the boundary line to kill the ball when they should and instead keeping it alive when they shouldn't, often costing them goals. Is that a good thing? Often, the only times it actually ends up being used is for unlucky bounces, or when opposition players could easily take the ball but opt to let it go out on purpose. Is that an improvement? A free kick because the ball bounced left instead of right? Is that better than one or two bad "deliberate" decisions each weekend, if that?

Again, I get the arguments for the rule, removing the need for interpretation. I just don't like it. It's a bit like the arguments for changing the scoring rules so if it hits the post and comes back in it's play on, while if it hits the post and goes through the goals you get a goal. It would make things simpler, remove ambiguities, and hell, we'd have played finals in 2023! But it would also make me shudder watching it because that's not how football is supposed to work, damn it.

I'm not saying it's a rational opinion. But it is my opinion, and to date the only reason I've ever heard someone give for the rule is that it makes the game easier to umpire and removes the howlers. Nobody has ever tried to argue that it's a better rule on the merits of the rule itself - only on the egregious examples of the previous rule being adjudicated poorly. The game is too difficult to umpire, they say. So we have to change the game itself to something nobody has even tried to argue is better on its merits, because otherwise how can we possibly expect umpires to make the right calls?

But this is a solved problem. You know what's more even difficult than umpiring? Playing football! And yet we manage to stick dozens of footballers on the ground every match, most of who play an entire game without a single howler of that magnitude. How do we achieve this amazing feat? By paying the good ones a truckload of cash, and demoting the ones who can't get it right often enough. And we have thousands of players all over the country competing like buggery to be the lucky few chosen to get on the field.

Nobody says "gee, footballers are struggling to get the ball between the big sticks often enough. We'd better widen them so it's easier for them to kick goals." No, they just pay millions of dollars to the special few who can do it regularly instead.

I know, I'm ranting. I just don't like it, simple as that.

Essentially what your saying is you've grown old, become conservative and don't like change. Amirite?

 

[Carmo]

Jeez the way Sloane just acts so flippantly to situations like not being able to see a player approaching him and “cleaning him up” and then just says “I’ll probably look into getting some goggles” .

I’ve always been convinced Collective Minds did a number on Rory, his boderline total foolhardiness belief in himself and how he always convinces himself no matter what the situation he will personally always beat anything always leaves you with a weird feeling of befuddled admiration, a slight concern for his safety and also a little bit convinced he’s part of a weird cult.

I think that Sloaney thinks that this years Crows team are a red hot chance for the flag. We all know how much he'd love one. We all know he hasn't got long left as a player. Imagine if he talked himself down about now and then they went on to win the flag. He'd be uber gutted if he dropped out instead of seeing if he could push on and get that flag.

We all know that he was a probably irrationally optimistic person even earlier in his career, I think a fair dose of FOMO is making it worse.

 

[cmndstab]

Essentially what your saying is you've grown old, become conservative and don't like change. Amirite?

Grown old and don't like change, yes. Although I didn't like change when I was younger, either.

Conservative... now them's fighting words!

 

[FR0GGY]

Mine was trying to fix a leaky pipe under a kitchen sink

Are you still under the sink?

 

[kick it to me_]

Nank fwd-mid taking McAdams role with a couple of minutes in the midfield.

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[GreyCrow]

Are you still under the sink?

My soul is

 

[Slippery Pete]

You do know its actually possible to agree and disagree with a person’s stance on different issues right?..

Best example of this is..

I agree with a lot of the footy talk from you and Crow Till I Die in the football threads, often wholeheartedly, but disagree with the conspiracy theorist flat earther nonsense you two spew forth over on the political threads..

Trust the experts Clam. They’re the ones with professional football operations experience. They’ve got the sports administration qualifications.

They know what they’re doing, you’re just a nuffie on Big Footy.

 

[Crow till I die]

Trust the experts Clam. They’re the ones with professional football operations experience. They’ve got the sports administration qualifications.

They know what they’re doing, you’re just a nuffie on Big Footy.

Clam wants to do his own research and not believe the 'experts'? - sounds awfully cookerish to me

 

[betterthanu]

1 week until we can watch football again (assuming they stream the intra-club).

Longest off season i can remember with that dismal summer of cricket.

 

[crows dude]

1 week until we can watch football again (assuming they stream the intra-club).

Longest off season i can remember with that dismal summer of cricket.

Havent seen anything about our internal trial yet

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Havent seen anything about our internal trial yet

Port Lincoln next Friday. Google it

 

[crows dude]

T

Port Lincoln next Friday. Google it

Thanks

Missed that one

Crows heading to Port Lincoln for community trip

Players will spend two days engaging with the Eyre Peninsula community

www.afc.com.au

 

[BACCS]

 

[1990crow]

 

[Trigger13]

Is Pedlar out of favour? Bizarre if true. Second time he’s trained with the ‘b’ side.

 

[ftmch]

What's the purpose of this photo shoot? Just seems a random gathering of Crows players (albeit all of them guns!) - am I missing something?

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

What's the purpose of this photo shoot? Just seems a random gathering of Crows players (albeit all of them guns!) - am I missing something?

Probably either AFC, Ch7 or Fox filming a grab.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Interesting given Laird was apparently a no show.

 

[MRB37]

Is Pedlar out of favour? Bizarre if true. Second time he’s trained with the ‘b’ side.

If we wanted him to run a lot of midfield time in match sim to see how he goes then it's natural he'd be in the B side to give him that opportunity.