Training Pre-Season 2024

[Ham]

Apologies if already posted, just had a follow on to the above pop up




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[Golumless]

Jeez the way Sloane just acts so flippantly to situations like not being able to see a player approaching him and “cleaning him up” and then just says “I’ll probably look into getting some goggles” .

I’ve always been convinced Collective Minds did a number on Rory, his boderline total foolhardiness belief in himself and how he always convinces himself no matter what the situation he will personally always beat anything always leaves you with a weird feeling of befuddled admiration, a slight concern for his safety and also a little bit convinced he’s part of a weird cult.

I doubt it. It's probably an attitude Rory had to ingrain into him to make it, seeing he was never a player who could coast on his talent.

Belief is a powerful drug and all that.

 

[Golumless]

Is Pedlar out of favour? Bizarre if true. Second time he’s trained with the ‘b’ side.

Nah, probably just a case of putting him up against Laird/Dawson, or our better defenders.

 

[Mostyn]

Was that when you played footy last year?

It might have been the year before!!

 

[Shaunbkk]

I've got no idea why the AFL persists with the ambiguous "insufficient intent" rule versus last touch

Same reason the tv puts score for cricket and tennis in tiny print using light blue and white to feck around with us

 

[Shaunbkk]

Sure, but simplifying doesn't have to mean eliminating the rule altogether.

I don't have an issue with players getting the ball over the line. That's part of football as far as I'm concerned. We specifically have a rule which says you can get the ball over the line and if it's not on the full, it's a throw-in. I don't think it makes sense that someone who clears the ball near the boundary ends up with a free kick against just because the ball landed on the wrong side and bounced out of bounds. Or that an opposition player should be rewarded for watching the ball dribble over the line. And as a fan, I can't think of anything more frustrating than a defender who could have neutralised the contest, but instead gives up a goal because they were worried about whether they were allowed to do it.

Reserve the rule for the blindingly obvious situations. Someone clearly kicking deliberately to the boundary line, playing for time. A ruckman just punching it straight towards the boundary line with nobody there. That kind of thing. If there is any doubt as to what their intention was, no decision, throw it back in. Easy.

People in footy are really stupid generally they couldn't work that one out so many rules are easily fixed i was in amusement at it all they should all stick to playing and let wise smart people make the decisions

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Not much SANFL but I've watched lots of AFLW where it's been a rule since 2018 when it applied all over the ground. Thankfully they changed it in 2019 so it doesn't apply inside 50 anymore, so we no longer see kicks to the lead that just slightly miss the target turning into a free kick.

Yes, I know it's last disposal.

Yes, the players adjust... by not taking advantage of the boundary line to kill the ball when they should and instead keeping it alive when they shouldn't, often costing them goals. Is that a good thing? Often, the only times it actually ends up being used is for unlucky bounces, or when opposition players could easily take the ball but opt to let it go out on purpose. Is that an improvement? A free kick because the ball bounced left instead of right? Is that better than one or two bad "deliberate" decisions each weekend, if that?

Again, I get the arguments for the rule, removing the need for interpretation. I just don't like it. It's a bit like the arguments for changing the scoring rules so if it hits the post and comes back in it's play on, while if it hits the post and goes through the goals you get a goal. It would make things simpler, remove ambiguities, and hell, we'd have played finals in 2023! But it would also make me shudder watching it because that's not how football is supposed to work, damn it.

I'm not saying it's a rational opinion. But it is my opinion, and to date the only reason I've ever heard someone give for the rule is that it makes the game easier to umpire and removes the howlers. Nobody has ever tried to argue that it's a better rule on the merits of the rule itself - only on the egregious examples of the previous rule being adjudicated poorly. The game is too difficult to umpire, they say. So we have to change the game itself to something nobody has even tried to argue is better on its merits, because otherwise how can we possibly expect umpires to make the right calls?

But this is a solved problem. You know what's more even difficult than umpiring? Playing football! And yet we manage to stick dozens of footballers on the ground every match, most of who play an entire game without a single howler of that magnitude. How do we achieve this amazing feat? By paying the good ones a truckload of cash, and demoting the ones who can't get it right often enough. And we have thousands of players all over the country competing like buggery to be the lucky few chosen to get on the field.

Nobody says "gee, footballers are struggling to get the ball between the big sticks often enough. We'd better widen them so it's easier for them to kick goals." No, they just pay millions of dollars to the special few who can do it regularly instead.

I know, I'm ranting. I just don't like it, simple as that.

I find it an annoying rule as if you make a decent kick in front of the leading player who’s moving fast toward boundary line but doesn’t quite get there then it’s a harsh penalty

It’s better to stuff the kick up behind the movement

That part of it annoys me too much

 

[Jeffcrowe]

1 week until we can watch football again (assuming they stream the intra-club).

Longest off season i can remember with that dismal summer of cricket.

Considering it’s actually the shortest off season ever it’s been very long indeed

Summer sport is no good these days

 

[woofsson]

I understand all the arguments for the last touch rule, getting rid of "insufficient intent" adjudications etc. But it still makes me gag every time I see it. It just feels wrong.

I know I'm being irrational but I just hate it. I've always felt that if the game is that difficult for umpires to adjucate, them pay them properly, and drop them when they make howlers. The umpires who can consistently make good calls get to stay umpiring at the top level and making the big bucks. Create an incentive for umpires to make those difficult calls correctly, rather than just changing the rules so the game is easier to umpire.

Work with the umpires (and any other relevant experts) to determine what’s actually possible to adjudicate in real match time and adjust the rules accordingly

 

[CromradeCromulent]

to the surprise of no one

 

[1990crow]

Curtin looks like a freak.

 

[cleanhands]

to the surprise of no one
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[bigman]

INTERVIEW: Chayce Jones - 09 February 2024 - The FIVEAA Sports Show

omny.fm

Interesting to hear chayce admit he packed on a few kegs in his layoff from injury.

As I noted in my initial reports he did indeed look a bit stocky upon return.

Definitely looks in better condition now and the swiftness of his recovery from such a tricky injury is terrific.

 

[baldandbroke]

I find it an annoying rule as if you make a decent kick in front of the leading player who’s moving fast toward boundary line but doesn’t quite get there then it’s a harsh penalty

It’s better to stuff the kick up behind the movement

That part of it annoys me too much

I think it could be improved … tweaked.

I like last disposal rule from AFLW as a base. Seems to work well.

I’d prefer defenders to be allowed to deliberately kick out bounds from inside their own 50m (not on the full)- a good ol fashioned kick for touch.

 

[FR0GGY]

Nah, probably just a case of putting him up against Laird/Dawson, or our better defenders.

The coaches read big footy and know he was out on the town pissed?

 

[FR0GGY]

I think it could be improved … tweaked.

I like last disposal rule from AFLW as a base. Seems to work well.

I’d prefer defenders to be allowed to deliberately kick out bounds from inside their own 50m (not on the full)- a good ol fashioned kick for touch.

Surely not?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

The coaches read big footy and know he was out on the town pissed?

Not sure we’d have a team if that was the basis

 

[FR0GGY]

Not sure we’d have a team if that was the basis

He was the only one reported on here

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

The coaches read big footy and know he was out on the town pissed?

I saw Lachy Murphy out at 3am, being carried out of a seedy nightclub by some bikies, semi-concious, wearing a clown wig and flippers

 

[baldandbroke]

Surely not?

Why not?

 

[FR0GGY]

Why not?

A ball being deliberately put out of play doesn’t add anything to the game

 

[Faaarrk]

I think it could be improved … tweaked.

I like last disposal rule from AFLW as a base. Seems to work well.

I’d prefer defenders to be allowed to deliberately kick out bounds from inside their own 50m (not on the full)- a good ol fashioned kick for touch.

The last thing we need are ‘special allowances’ based on field position.

 

[FR0GGY]

The last thing we need are ‘special allowances’ based on field position.

Add it to the forwards can push in the back but defenders can’t?

 

[crows dude]

Caller on fiveaa saying Clarke to be solely coaching Aflw and ex Norwood premiership ruckman Sammy Baulderstone coming from Glenelg to coach crows rucks

 

[GreyCrow]

I saw Lachy Murphy out at 3am, being carried out of a seedy nightclub by some bikies, semi-concious, wearing a clown wig and flippers

Huge

If true