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WILLIAM BUCK PREMIER FINALS 2022 2nd SEMIFINAL ELSTERNWICK 2pm SAT 3/9	PRELIMINARY FINAL ELSTERNWICK 2:15pm SUN 11/9	GRAND FINAL TREVOR BARKER 2:30pm SUN 18/9
St Kevins
Collegians	Collegians	St Kevins
1st SEMIFINAL TREVOR BARKER 2:30pm SUN 4/9	vs	vs
Old Xaverians	Old Brighton	Old Brighton
Old Brighton

WILLIAM BUCK PREMIER RESERVE 2022 2nd SEMIFINAL TREVOR BARKER 12pm SUN 4/9	PRELIMINARY FINAL ELSTERNWICK 11:40am SUN 11/9	GRAND FINAL TOORAK PARK 1pm SUN 18/9
Old Xaverians
Old Melburnians	Old Melburnians	Old Xaverians
1st SEMIFINAL ELSTERNWICK 11:40am SAT 3/9	vs	vs
Old Scotch	Old Scotch	Old Scotch
St Bernards

 

[Mr Platinum]

Caulfield
Collegians
Blues
OX
OM

 

[AM]

Marto didn't miss anyone during his interview on RSN. Brian Plato will be miffed.

My take was:

1. The VAFA is fundamentally an APS comp and the points system advantages them. Poacher gone gamekeeper, perhaps.

2. The VAFA characterisation of the points infraction doesn't conform to that of AFL Vic.

3. Other clubs have offended but no action has been pursued.

4. Some of the people on the panel who made the call were conflicted.

5. The VAFA should insist clubs provide the VAFA with all player names with club-assessed points pre-season which the VAFA should endorse or otherwise, so clubs are clear.

Point 5 is the most noteworthy. Reckon the VAFA have got off lightly in this matter.

Good win by the Cardinals.

 

[Max Leader]

Marto didn't miss anyone during his interview on RSN. Brian Plato will be miffed.

My take was:

1. The VAFA is fundamentally an APS comp and the points system advantages them. Poacher gone gamekeeper, perhaps.

2. The VAFA characterisation of the points infraction doesn't conform to that of AFL Vic.

3. Other clubs have offended but no action has been pursued.

4. Some of the people on the panel who made the call were conflicted.

5. The VAFA should insist clubs provide the VAFA with all player names with club-assessed points pre-season which the VAFA should endorse or otherwise, so clubs are clear.

Point 5 is the most noteworthy. Reckon the VAFA have got off lightly in this matter.

Good win by the Cardinals.

Boo hoo.

Which clubs have infringed.

Clubs knew the rules. If you don’t, why not.

Simple have Grimley play at OI. He would be a 1 pointer. Not too hard to work out.

 

[HedgeFund]

Marto didn't miss anyone during his interview on RSN. Brian Plato will be miffed.

My take was:

1. The VAFA is fundamentally an APS comp and the points system advantages them. Poacher gone gamekeeper, perhaps.

2. The VAFA characterisation of the points infraction doesn't conform to that of AFL Vic.

3. Other clubs have offended but no action has been pursued.

4. Some of the people on the panel who made the call were conflicted.

5. The VAFA should insist clubs provide the VAFA with all player names with club-assessed points pre-season which the VAFA should endorse or otherwise, so clubs are clear.

Point 5 is the most noteworthy. Reckon the VAFA have got off lightly in this matter.

Good win by the Cardinals.

So the VAFA should presume clubs will try to cheat the system? I disagree.

It’s the responsibility of the clubs to manage their compliance. They’re the ones who put the players out every week and we all know many players sign up/on after Rd 1.

To suggest the VAFA go through some vetting process is to place too much responsibility on the competition.

 

[AM]

Boo hoo.

Which clubs have infringed.

Clubs knew the rules. If you don’t, why not.

Simple have Grimley play at OI. He would be a 1 pointer. Not too hard to work out.

Pretty much a lack of substance boo-hoo by you Maxie, by not addressing what Marto said.

Other things were going on so my attention was a tad distracted during the interview. But he mentioned O Ms and we know Xavs have transgressed following which they got a slap with a damp lettuce cos it was considered unintentional.

If you don't think other clubs have wrongly assessed player points then you aren't as smart as I give you credit for.

Perhaps if some parked their antipathy toward the Blues and were more objective their views would be more moderate.

As I've said the Blues' oversight or aware transgression warranted a penalty but the pile-on is over the top. The system is flawed and, as I see it, they have taken advantage of it in the past

The points system isn't black and white and needs overhauling and there's no doubt the VAFA, as I understand some other community leagues do, should have had oversight. The suggestion by Marto of all clubs providing the VAFA with player lists with their points assessment pre-season has merit.

A "Over and out" M

So the VAFA should presume clubs will try to cheat the system? I disagree.

It’s the responsibility of the clubs to manage their compliance. They’re the ones who put the players out every week and we all know many players sign up/on after Rd 1.

To suggest the VAFA go through some vetting process is to place too much responsibility on the competition.

It's not a big ask for club lists to be assessed pre-season. I understand some other community comps do it and it isn't as if the VAFA is short on staff as we speak. Administering the comp is their role and this should be part of it.

 

[Penski]

Pretty much a lack of substance boo-hoo by you Maxie, by not addressing what Marto said.

Other things were going on so my attention was a tad distracted during the interview. But he mentioned O Ms and we know Xavs have transgressed following which they got a slap with a damp lettuce cos it was considered unintentional.

If you don't think other clubs have wrongly assessed player points then you aren't as smart as I give you credit for.

Perhaps if some parked their antipathy toward the Blues and were more objective their views would be more moderate.

As I've said the Blues' oversight or aware transgression warranted a penalty but the pile-on is over the top. The system is flawed and, as I see it, they t have taken advantage of it in the past

The points system isn't black and white and needs overhauling and there's no doubt the VAFA, as I understand some other community leagues do, should have had oversight. The suggestion by Marto of all clubs providing the VAFA with player lists with their appoints assessment pre-season has merit.

A "Over and out" M

It's not a big ask for club lists to be assessed pre-season. I understand some other community comps do it and it isn't as if the VAFA is short on staff as we speak. Administering the comp is their role and this should be part of it.

I agree. There'll be a bit of work for the first year it's in place as every player will need to be assessed and approved, but after that, you only have to scrutinise the new players each year.

 

[bedford]

One obviously

Kennedy has to be more than 1 otherwise it's a joke

 

[From45SlightAngle]

Mr Platinum are SKOBAFL shot or just players missing

 

[Mr Platinum]

Mr Platinum are SKOBAFL shot or just players missing

Mr Angle, no excuses, Collegians were better and well coached, no panic at SKOB.

 

[Max Leader]

Kennedy has to be more than 1 otherwise it's a joke

Plays on 3 points.

 

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Just saying that the conditions at Caulfield were easily among the four worst I've ever umpired in. The only saving grace was that it wasn't pissing with rain.

One of the big gusts in the third quarter that brought a dust storm from the racecourse also took my hat for an unauthorised excursion across the road, fortunately one of the Caulfield brethren chased it halfway down the next street and brought it back. Legend.

 

[Dodge2]

What's the opinions regarding St Bernards stacking their reserve team last weekend! Get their 1s can't make finals, but still have a chance to avoid relegation vs their 2s playing finals. If true, their coaches should take a look at themselves.

 

[Max Leader]

What's the opinions regarding St Bernards stacking their reserve team last weekend! Get their 1s can't make finals, but still have a chance to avoid relegation vs their 2s playing finals. If true, their coaches should take a look at themselves.

Won’t be the 1st time a club has done it. I remember Uni Blacks being a joke in the seniors and unbeatable in the 2’s.

 

[Mr Platinum]

What's the opinions regarding St Bernards stacking their reserve team last weekend! Get their 1s can't make finals, but still have a chance to avoid relegation vs their 2s playing finals. If true, their coaches should take a look at themselves.

Mr Dodge, it did not happen, OX has half of their team in Europe, as does my club.

Some teams will be lucky to take advantage of it, Trinity could be singing the song come this Saturday vs SKOB.

 

[that was out of bounds]

What's the opinions regarding St Bernards stacking their reserve team last weekend! Get their 1s can't make finals, but still have a chance to avoid relegation vs their 2s playing finals. If true, their coaches should take a look at themselves.

What a farce. Check the team sheet and tell me the names of the A grade weapons they dropped to "stack" their team.

 

[From45SlightAngle]

Mr Dodge, it did not happen, OX has half of their team in Europe, as does my club.

Some teams will be lucky to take advantage of it, Trinity could be singing the song come this Saturday vs SKOB.

Hughes,Di Lizio, O'Halloran, McNicol and Iermano must have all been coming back from injury at the same time

 

[womack]

Won’t be the 1st time a club has done it. I remember Uni Blacks being a joke in the seniors and unbeatable in the 2’s.

Hi Max I played in those Blacks ressies teams and can assure you there was no stacking going on!
Ps my boy was one of the debutants a couple of weeks ago for OI .. a great experience for him and he has already played 1 more senior game than his old man!


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[Max Leader]

Hi Max I played in those Blacks ressies teams and can assure you there was no stacking going on!
Ps my boy was one of the debutants a couple of weeks ago for OI .. a great experience for him and he has already played 1 more senior game than his old man!


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Was it Watto or Archie. How’d they find it? Prem C is a pretty strong comp at the top end.

Hope it gave them a taste and they will come back and have another crack.

It’s was just funny how UBl were unbeatable in the twos but the Seniors we being relegated.

 

[Mr Platinum]

Hughes,Di Lizio, O'Halloran, McNicol and Iermano must have all been coming back from injury at the same time

Mr Chris Hughes has spent several games in and out of the seniors this year, not sure Mr De Lizio and Mr Iermano are any good?

Mr De Lizio named in the best once this season before playing ressies against Uni Blues. Not named in the best in that game either.

As for Mr O’Halloran, he hasn’t played a game at all since June 4, so probably coming back from injury.

I’m not sure any of these players would command a regular game in a top 4 Premier team, plus Mr Groves is coaching for his future.

 

[womack]

Was it Watto or Archie. How’d they find it? Prem C is a pretty strong comp at the top end.

Hope it gave them a taste and they will come back and have another crack.

It’s was just funny how UBl were unbeatable in the twos but the Seniors we being relegated.

Was Watto .. very raw ruckman … he found it pretty tough but a great experience..


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[Max Leader]

Was Watto .. very raw ruckman … he found it pretty tough but a great experience..


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He goes Ok? Must of loved it when he kicked the goal.

 

[From45SlightAngle]

Mr Chris Hughes has spent several games in and out of the seniors this year, not sure Mr De Lizio and Mr Iermano are any good?

Mr De Lizio named in the best once this season before playing ressies against Uni Blues. Not named in the best in that game either.

As for Mr O’Halloran, he hasn’t played a game at all since June 4, so probably coming back from injury.

I’m not sure any of these players would command a regular game in a top 4 Premier team, plus Mr Groves is coaching for his future.

my years out of the game must be showing. All were young stars in 2015 and 2016. But must've declined after their shock u19 GF loss to OXAFL at the hands of the flying dutchman Mr Vanderhaar et al.

 

[From45SlightAngle]

Big fortnight coming up for the old rivals.

Mirra FC facing an in-form 45 point Scotch with OXAFL treking to OBALL1POINTERSWITHACOUPLEORMONDJUNIORS, then they play each other. You'd think if either goes 2-0 that's the top 4 sewn up. But stranger things have happened.

45 /

 

[MortlockWatcher]

Marto didn't miss anyone during his interview on RSN. Brian Plato will be miffed.

My take was:

1. The VAFA is fundamentally an APS comp and the points system advantages them. Poacher gone gamekeeper, perhaps.

2. The VAFA characterisation of the points infraction doesn't conform to that of AFL Vic.

3. Other clubs have offended but no action has been pursued.

4. Some of the people on the panel who made the call were conflicted.

5. The VAFA should insist clubs provide the VAFA with all player names with club-assessed points pre-season which the VAFA should endorse or otherwise, so clubs are clear.

Point 5 is the most noteworthy. Reckon the VAFA have got off lightly in this matter.

Good win by the Cardinals.

In WA, you have to submit your list of potential senior players with club-assessed points to the league for approval every year. They have six senior grades (A, B, C1-C4) so that's only one less than the VAFA.

I'd be staggered if the VAFA didn't have someone in their office whose job it was to assess player points prior to the season starting or during the season in the same way clearances are managed.

 

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