Banter Preseason general discussion - The Reigning Premiers Edition

[Dark Sharks]

Just chasing some tricep news if possible?

 

[eaglesnutcase]

I know people bag players like Masten [ me included ] but as we look to go B2B we must identify any weaknesses/areas we can improve.Watching the Gf [ many times ] i thought Masten and Cripps were our worst..One offs or not up to the big stage?? As i repeatedly say "some players get you to finals;some players win you finals".They are not always the same player.Masten had a solid year,with his two tackles being memorable; but i look at his position and think "would a Waterman or a Watson bring more to the table"?? POTENTIALLY yes.Both are much more talented so the question is can they give the same amount of run/linkup?If they lose a bit on that side does their better skill set and toughness make up for it? Cripps is a workhorse;would a Petrol bring more to the table? hes probably a better mark and has freakish pace;maybe he would shine on the big stage! Cole will have the pressure on;i like him and i like his tough attitude.That said i would really like to see him on the ball.He is tough and very composed with ball in hand.People keep talking about Duggan going into the middle,but i like him back and i think we can do without Cole down there and would like to see him in the guts.Im sure the club has plan A,B and C for each position and our depth is scary.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Marsden is king.

 

[The Black Fox]

I know people bag players like Masten [ me included ] but as we look to go B2B we must identify any weaknesses/areas we can improve.Watching the Gf [ many times ] i thought Masten and Cripps were our worst..One offs or not up to the big stage?? As i repeatedly say "some players get you to finals;some players win you finals".They are not always the same player.Masten had a solid year,with his two tackles being memorable; but i look at his position and think "would a Waterman or a Watson bring more to the table"?? POTENTIALLY yes.Both are much more talented so the question is can they give the same amount of run/linkup?If they lose a bit on that side does their better skill set and toughness make up for it? Cripps is a workhorse;would a Petrol bring more to the table? hes probably a better mark and has freakish pace;maybe he would shine on the big stage! Cole will have the pressure on;i like him and i like his tough attitude.That said i would really like to see him on the ball.He is tough and very composed with ball in hand.People keep talking about Duggan going into the middle,but i like him back and i think we can do without Cole down there and would like to see him in the guts.Im sure the club has plan A,B and C for each position and our depth is scary.

Venables was easily our quietest performer in the GF. No way Masten or Cripps were close to being quieter. (That's not a knock on Venables either, I think he will become a very good player)

I think you underestimate the roles Cripps and Masten play and a lot of it is intangible (Insert Brandt College)
Cripps provides a significant amount of forward pressure once the ball hits the ground in the I50. That doesn't have to come through tackling necessarily but chasing and corralling to provide implied pressure to rush kicks / decision making.

There aren't many stronger two way runners in the comp than Masten, his ability to work into position tom provide link up play across half back through to half forward is valuable. Uses short kick and invariably hits his targets.

I am not the biggest fan of either tbh, but can recognise they both have a defined role in the team and execute their plan effectively.

Before any games have started I see Waterman as the front runner to take Leccas spot. Watson as talented as he may be, must demand his spot through extended consistent periods of high performance (seemingly the knock on him is his inconsistency) until then, first right should go to the incumbents.

 

[squashface]

If Masten is fit he plays round 1.

He is the strongest runner in our squad who has the foot skills to match it.

 

[Chris_6678]

Josh Smith will surely play if Masten is not a 100%.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Going to be good competition for spots this year. Petch will get a go for Lecca Cripps type role. Hopefully Waterman too he did well last year. Wonder if Smith is a sneaky chance up forward too. Brisbane is going to be a good test first up a lot of changes since we last played them on both sides.

 

[FKASC]

Smith can GAGF

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Venables was easily our quietest performer in the GF. No way Masten or Cripps were close to being quieter. (That's not a knock on Venables either, I think he will become a very good player)

I think you underestimate the roles Cripps and Masten play and a lot of it is intangible (Insert Brandt College)
Cripps provides a significant amount of forward pressure once the ball hits the ground in the I50. That doesn't have to come through tackling necessarily but chasing and corralling to provide implied pressure to rush kicks / decision making.

There aren't many stronger two way runners in the comp than Masten, his ability to work into position tom provide link up play across half back through to half forward is valuable. Uses short kick and invariably hits his targets.

I am not the biggest fan of either tbh, but can recognise they both have a defined role in the team and execute their plan effectively.

Before any games have started I see Waterman as the front runner to take Leccas spot. Watson as talented as he may be, must demand his spot through extended consistent periods of high performance (seemingly the knock on him is his inconsistency) until then, first right should go to the incumbents.

Yep.Forgot about Venners.agree he will be part of our future.My comments [thrown out there] are both about what they bring;and whether somebody else can bring more.We dont need to massively change but we do need to tweak.

 

[Bender_]

Just chasing some tricep news if possible?

I would've assumed at the gym you attend where wearing a bum bag is a condition of membership you'd refer to them as "trikes'.

 

[Astro7]

I know people bag players like Masten [ me included ] but as we look to go B2B we must identify any weaknesses/areas we can improve.Watching the Gf [ many times ] i thought Masten and Cripps were our worst..One offs or not up to the big stage?? As i repeatedly say "some players get you to finals;some players win you finals".They are not always the same player.Masten had a solid year,with his two tackles being memorable; but i look at his position and think "would a Waterman or a Watson bring more to the table"?? POTENTIALLY yes.Both are much more talented so the question is can they give the same amount of run/linkup?If they lose a bit on that side does their better skill set and toughness make up for it? Cripps is a workhorse;would a Petrol bring more to the table? hes probably a better mark and has freakish pace;maybe he would shine on the big stage! Cole will have the pressure on;i like him and i like his tough attitude.That said i would really like to see him on the ball.He is tough and very composed with ball in hand.People keep talking about Duggan going into the middle,but i like him back and i think we can do without Cole down there and would like to see him in the guts.Im sure the club has plan A,B and C for each position and our depth is scary.

a small point perhaps, but re-Cripps+Masten, some players can also have a bad game one week and a good game the next, a bad final one week and a good one the next.. or a bad GF one year and a good one next year ... lots of variables.

 

[Avalor]

If Masten is fit he plays round 1.

He is the strongest runner in our squad who has the foot skills to match it.

Mastodon actually had a number of hard ball gets in the GF that impressed me. Only had 2 bad moments that I recall - his miss at a sitter in the last Q, and when he went to ground too easily from a shove in the back from Mayne. A lot of other players had more bad moments than that.

 

[RookiePick]

Christ it's started already.

Christ Masten saves

 

[FKASC]

The power of Christ compels you

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

This pretty adequately explains why I hope AFLX is a one time failed experiment. I hope that none get injured playing in this trashfire.

 

[Balls In]

He’s a mad Dockers supporter .

They all are.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Has this been posted yet

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/w...ast-eagles-as-a-90s-sitcom-ng-b881099379z.amp

 

[bUCKET__]

Holy crap Cripps had his strongest season in his whole career. He kicked heaps of goals, still dominating forward pressure stats, and somehow at the same time was racking up touches and working further up the ground to link up from defense.

The bloke is entering his prime and would be a walk up start in any team in the league.

Not only did he prove he's better than a simple role player this year, he was racking up more votes than nearly anyone in this board's MVP award in the second half of the year. Which is the highest honour you can get imo.

I remember a couple of huge goals he roosted from outside of 50; his confidence was going through the roof, he knew what a good job he was doing. No reason to think that form won't continue.

Shame eaglesnutcase , shame!

 

[bUCKET__]

I can see Williams being better than that hack Lycett after a year or two. Sound list management at the end of last year.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Of the new guys Foley is the only one that’s come close to doing full training- O’Neill, Williams, Cameron and Edwards have all had restricted preparations. That said he is working hard and I’m getting better at picking him up during drills after struggling to notice him earlier

And yes Williams does have sticky hands, think he’s going to be a beauty

Agree entirely with your views on Duggans leadership potential- very much a prominent figure in the younger group. Crazy to think he’s not long ago just turned 22

Saw William's a few times at under 18s, he's a gun. He's got one of those floating leaps where you hang for a bit. He's ideal for deep fwd and second ruck role. Lucky he was still there at draft night.

 

[boondy]

And yes Williams does have sticky hands, think he’s going to be a beauty

Good Good . Cos we need 90 marks a game

 

[kane249]

The power of Chris compels you

Efa

 

[Bender_]

Saw William's a few times at under 18s, he's a gun. He's got one of those floating leaps where you hang for a bit. He's ideal for deep fwd and second ruck role. Lucky he was still there at draft night.

*hangtime

Now I'm not saying he's going to be the Michael Jordan of the AFL, but he is.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

*hangtime

Now I'm not saying he's going to be the Michael Jordan of the AFL, but he is.

Might just hang this here.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Saw William's a few times at under 18s, he's a gun. He's got one of those floating leaps where you hang for a bit. He's ideal for deep fwd and second ruck role. Lucky he was still there at draft night.

Just need to work on his goal kicking which is putrid at the moment