Rate the midfields.

[jonoman89]

Here's my effort.

8.5 -



5.0 - Melbourne, West Coast
4.5 - Essendon
4.0 - Fremantle

1) Geelong

2) Hawthorn, Bulldogs

3) Port, St. Kilda

4) Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond

5) Sydney, Adelaide, Collingwood, North Melbourne

6) Essendon, West Coast

7) Fremantle, Melbourne

Each line = new bracket of quality. First listed = best in each bracket, last worst.

I expect Carlton and Richmond to move into bracket 2 by end of 2010 however, with Bulldogs entering bracket 1.

 

[St Francis]

Midfield Rankings

1. Geelong - Ablett, Ling, Corey, Sellwood, Bartel.
2. Hawthorn - Mitchell, Lewis, Bateman, Sewell, Hodge.
3. Port Adelaide - S Burgoyne, K Cornes, Pearce, Rodan, Salopek.
4. Richmond - Delidio, Cousins, Tuck, Cotchin, Foley.
5. St. Kilda - Ball, Hayes, Montagna, Goddard, Dal Santo.
6. Western Bulldogs - Cooney, Griffen, Cross, Giansiracusa, Boyd.
7. Brisbane - Black, Power, Johnstone, Rischitelli, Sherman.
8. Sydney - Bolton, Kirk, Goodes, McVeigh, Buchanan.
9. Carlton - Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Simpson, Stevens.
10. Adelaide - Thompson, Van Berlo, Edwards, McCleod, Goodwin.
11. North Melbourne - Harvey, Harris, Simpson, Wells, Rawlings.
12. Collingwood - Pendlebury, O'Bree, Thomas, Swan, Davis.
13. Essendon - McVeigh, Prismall, Lovett, Watson, Dempsey.
14. West Coast - Priddis, Embley, Fletcher, Kerr, Rosa.
15. Melbourne - McLean, McDonald, Jones, Green, Bruce.
16. Fremantle - Palmer, Hasleby, Schammer, Headland, Dodd.

I gave it a go. I'm sure there'll be disagreements. I ranked them on how balanced the midfield and the workload that was carried between 5 midfielders of each team.

I agree with most of the rankings but i think you've seroiusly underated the blues. as much as i hate to admit, it i believe they are going places in 09, largely due to their improved midfield brigade.

 

[Monkeyboy]

Geelong 10/10
Carlton / Hawthorn 9.0/10
Port Adelaide / West Bulldogs 8.0/10
Richmond / Brisbane 7.5/10
StKilda 7/10
Kangaroos / Sydney 6.5/10
WCE / Adelaide 6.0/10
Melbourne / Collingwood 5.5/10
Essendon 5.0/10
Fremantle 4.5/10

 

[Zvim]

It is amazing how consistently our midfield beats midfields above us yet we are so low.

I think the only midfield that has been clearly above ours has been Geelong. Given our success against Dogs and Hawks in the middle, the proof isn't in the pudding that they are significantly above us.

 

[Kooley]

lol, grigg is a steaming pile of shit.

i rate him a fraction better than chris knights. so what does that make christopher?

 

[wce4premiership]

I know the eagles are far from the best but we still have cox, kerr, embley and some young talent. Albeit unproven.

Anyway i would say

Geelong
Hawks
Richmond

 

[budge11]

It is amazing how consistently our midfield beats midfields above us yet we are so low.

I think the only midfield that has been clearly above ours has been Geelong. Given our success against Dogs and Hawks in the middle, the proof isn't in the pudding that they are significantly above us.

We match up well against the Doggies and the Hawks, but our midfield was pretty horrid in patches last year. *cringes* Think the Sydney final...

 

[Moo]

Midfield Rankings
16. Fremantle - Palmer, Hasleby, Schammer, Headland, Dodd.

Dodd and Headland?

Dodd will be a lucky man to make the 22 and Headland is a half forward flanker now who has a run through the middle.

If we are going to be ranked in the bottom wrungs of this let it be with the blokes who will actually be playing there -

Palmer, Ibbotson, Mundy, Hasleby/Schammer & Crowley

FWIW - If Freo do end up throwing Pavlich in the middle with Palmer, Mundy & Ibbo we would jump up 4 or 5 places on this list but be a poorer team for it.

 

[ShinSplints]

Fremantle suk. Should be disallowed to continue in the AFL.

Amatuer hour really isnt it??

Pathetic rabble.

 

[tribey]

i rate him a fraction better than chris knights. so what does that make christopher?

Saying Grigg is better than Knights is like saying Shirley is better than Nick Stevens.

Utter twaddle.

 

[Lach72]

Fremantle suk. Should be disallowed to continue in the AFL.

Amatuer hour really isnt it??

Pathetic rabble.

That's right...if only we could have 20-odd spoons and only 1 premiership over 100 years...

 

[danzan22]

Midfield Rankings

13. Essendon - McVeigh, Prismall, Lovett, Watson, Dempsey.

I gave it a go. I'm sure there'll be disagreements. I ranked them on how balanced the midfield and the workload that was carried between 5 midfielders of each team.

How you have put Dempsey and Prismall in our best over Welsh, stanton and lonergan is astonishing

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Here's my effort.
9.5 - Geelong
9.0 - Hawthorn
8.5 -
8.0 - Bulldogs
7.5 - Port Adelaide, Carlton
7.0 - St. Kilda
6.5 - Brisbane, Richmond
6.0 - Adelaide, Sydney, Collingwood
5.5 - North Melbourne
5.0 - Melbourne, West Coast
4.5 - Essendon
4.0 - Fremantle

I think that's about right, Sampler, though I'd bump Richmond up a notch or two.

 

[serenityNow]

Fremantle suk. Should be disallowed to continue in the AFL.

Amatuer hour really isnt it??

Pathetic rabble.

^^^^This from a Saints fan^^^^

You've been a Rabble longer then any side known to man, even with your gifted draft picks you failed.

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

Anyone who has Dogs less than 3rd is drinkin their bathwater.

 

[GordonBlue]

9.0 - Geelong
8.0 - Hawthorn, Port Adelaide
7.0 - Richmond, Carlton, Western Bulldogs
6.5 - St. Kilda, Brisbane
6.0 - Collingwood, Sydney
5.5 - Adelaide, North Melbourne
5.0 - Essendon
4.5 - Melbourne, West Coast
4.0 - Fremantle

 

[Two Eyes]

Still goes to show alot of people still under-rate Essendon.

13, 15, 12, 12

Nah, I think people have got Essendon spot on

 

[Two Eyes]

In todays football of the zone you have 12 midfielders after the bounce so the term midfielder has no real place in the game. All players are needed to play that role running from one end of the ground to the other. The team with the best lists(cats, hawks) have the best midfield as a midfield can only be judged by the depth of the team, not a couple of star players.

Good call, and in some degree helps explain Collingwood being competitive without having much top shelf talent in the midfield or a dominant ruck to help them. Our small forwards all rotate through there and Davis, Medhurst, Thomas and Didak add much needed depth.

 

[Quinz]

That's right...if only we could have 20-odd spoons and only 1 premiership over 100 years...

Be patient Lachy, you'll get there.

 

[Lach72]

Be patient Lachy, you'll get there.

Pineapple daquiri

 

[captain peanut]

Saying Grigg is better than Knights is like saying Shirley is better than Nick Stevens.

Utter twaddle.

remarkable. knights is a gun. who exactly is this grigg bloke a few people have mentioned??

 

[jonoman89]

remarkable. knights is a gun. who exactly is this grigg bloke a few people have mentioned??

An extremely good young utility. Watch out for him in 09. Or better yet, watch the kangas game 2 weeks ago.

 

[Quinz]

Pineapple daquiri

At least you are safe here on the main board.

 

[Bulldog1954]

It is amazing how consistently our midfield beats midfields above us yet we are so low.

I think the only midfield that has been clearly above ours has been Geelong. Given our success against Dogs and Hawks in the middle, the proof isn't in the pudding that they are significantly above us.

Its also amazing how often your midfield gets beaten by sides midfields considerably below you. Using your logic can we argue that Sydney, Adelaide and even Port have better midfields then North?

 

[swifty]

Stanton - Has no polish nor accountability. Great endurance level and penetrative kick but for me that's where it ends.

It was out of Welsh or Dempsey, I gave it to Dempsey for his creativity and leg speed, Welsh tends to bomb it out of the middle without much purpose (other than kicking it forward). Two of the biggest issues for Essendon's midfield last season was accountability and kicking skills, Welsh has the accountability, Dempsey has the kicking skills. Welsh does however provide a fair deal of grunt/aggression which is why the decision was difficult.

Dempsey in my opinion is all class. You can't have Watson, Welsh and Stanton in the midfield at the one time in my opinion. Someone needs to hit a target.

There were always going to be disagreements.

dempsey has struggled to even get game time. while stanton is probably our best midfielder behind mcveigh.