Rd 1 2010

[BarneyBent]

It's getting to that time of the season again. What do we all think the team will look like come Rd 1 next year?

My team:

B: LRT, C. Bolton, Richards
HB: Mattner, Grundy, Shaw
C: Barlow, Bird, McVeigh
HF: O'Keefe, Johnston, Goodes
F: Veszpremi, White, Bevan
R: Jolly, Kirk, J. Bolton
I/C: Pyke, Moore, Jack, Smith

I may have forgotten some obvious ones.

I think Smith has for the moment cemented his spot down back. Barlow seems to have found his spot on the wing. Goodes is wasted at CHF, but as a pinchitting goalkicker setting up across half forward and pushing into the midfield, I think he'll do well, and has done this year.

I've got Bevan starting as a forward. I'm over him as a defender, he's courageous, he does OK, and he's not as bad as some here say, but Smith has stepped into his role and is already doing it at least as well as Bevo, but with more room for improvement. Bevo got to 6th or whatever it was in the B&F last year when he played forward, kicked a few goals, and pressured (along with Moore) the oppo forwardline, restricting run. Bevo will never be a star, but he's got the tools to be a decent player, and I reckon he'll slot in nicely up forward.

Johnston is perhaps the big in, but if he can get in one or two ressies games this year, put in a big preseason, and stay uninjured through the NAB Cup/Challenge games, he's a big chance as our starting CHF. Given his injury this year was a foot injury, there's no reason he can't have been spending some extra time in the gym building his upper body and improving his core strength. However, his fitness may be down, so while I've named him at CHF, he may be more likely to play FF and let Goodes and White, and maybe Barlow, cover that position.

And I tried to fit Hannebery in, but I wasn't sure where to fit him. Pyke is in in front of Currie because Currie will need to prove himself again IMO before winning a spot. Slightly hypocritical given I've got Johston in there, but Johnston is essentially a direct replacement for Micky O, while Currie has a direct competitor in Pyke who he will have to actively dislodge from the side.

 

[vonn]

Meredith!

 

[Swans120]

While it is still too early to really do this, i'll bite anyway!

F: Veszpremi White Johnston
HF: O'Keefe Goodes Bird
C: Shaw McVeigh Jack
HB: Mattner Grundy Smith
B: LRT CBolts Barlow
R: Jolly Kirk JBolts

I/C from: Currie, Hannerbery, Meredith, Richards, Moore, Malceski, last spot for Bevan/Ablett

On Teddy Richards, with LRT/CBolts/Reg now down back and all doing well for the most part, where does he fit in? My idea was to possibly move him up onto a wing. He is mobile, can drift forward and back and help out where necessary, has ok skills but is a great mark. Some of the season he has looked a bit sketchy down back when he had been looking much improved last year. Could help him out to move out of defence. Dunno, just a thought and i dont really feel strongly about the move but what are other ppl's thoughts?

 

[MC Bad Genius]

i think ted richards would be more likely to start up in the forward line as a third lead-up forward (after white and goodes). his position in the backline seems to not be there anymore with grundy really cementing his place and bolton and LRT still playing well.

 

[BarneyBent]

On Richards, I just forgot him. I've slotted him in down back. This whole year we've been playing one defender down in my opinion. Leo went out of the side, but he was never replaced. It prompted me to start a thread calling for White to be sent down back. However, Grundy ended up filling that extra defender role well. With Richards now out, we are currently playing Barlow as a key defender at times, and also sometimes playing Mattner as a tall defender despite his size (both Barlow and Mattner spent time on Jurrah against Melbourne, for example). When he comes back, in defence, it will free up Barlow to spend the majority of his time on the wing, and Mattner can concentrate on his rebound game and generally being just a hard nut.

I left out Malceski for Teddy, with Smith moving to the bench. I guess Mal will have to prove himself in the ressies again before coming back into the side.

 

[BarneyBent]

Meredith!

Will be coming off a long-term injury layoff and will need a few ressies games to find his touch before he's considered for a spot.

 

[vonn]

noooo he doesn't... i'll chuck a spaz.

 

[gaddo62]

F Meredith White Veszpremi
HF Barlow Goodes O’Keefe
C Shaw McVeigh Jack
HB Mattner LRT Kennelly
B Richards C. Bolton Grundy
R Jolly Kirk J. Bolton
I/C Pyke Bird Hannebery Smith

EMER: Johnstone O'Dywer Thornton

Playfair was left out for Johnston as I think he will be more exciting for them up forward.O'Dywer didn't show much in his couple of senior appearances last year apart from nice pace.Currie will have to prove he is better than Pyke to force his way in.

Unsure on the futures of Ablett,Bevan,Malceski,Buchanan,and Moore.They have been there for years and they might part to make way for youth.They are all solid builds who don't have much pace (with the exception of Malceski) and their skills aren't great.So I left them out because I am unsure on their future.

The team I posted is about 50/50 with youth and experience.

This is my Dad's account I am using,but I myself am a 100% committed swans fan and have been all my life.

 

[RUNVS]

Schmidt and Laidlaw have had their chance to be regulars in the 22,but have not performed as well as others,so they are left out.

Schmidt has been injured for most of the season and i really do think he will be in our first 22 once he gets fit.

 

[SM]

B: LRT, C. Bolton, Richards
HB: Mattner, Grundy, Shaw
C: Barlow, Bird, McVeigh
HF: O'Keefe, Johnston, Goodes
F: Veszpremi, White, Moore
R: Jolly, Kirk, J. Bolton
I/C from: Pyke, Hannebery, Jack, Smith, Meredith, Schmidt, MOD, [Annual trade from another club]

Guys I've left out:

- Brabazon I feel will be delisted at the end of this year, has shown brief amounts of talent in the opportunities he's been given, but just not enough to call for a spot next year. Possibly re-rookied, but I doubt it.
- DOK has been injured since we selected him, and despite playing much of this season in the Ressies, has been in and out with slight injuries so much so that a school boy has been given opportunities over him. If that doesn't say he's out, nothing does.
- Laidlaw I feel is much the same as DOK, although he did get a brief chance in the seniors. Just hasn't offered enough to really call for his spot on the list to be retained.

Along with those three possible delistments, I suspect Crouch will announce his retirement and join Hall, Fosdike, Kennelly, MOL, and Barry leaving the club. That's 9 gaps on the senior list, and Roos has flagged a desire to draft 5-8. Ablett, Bevan, Buchanan, Malceski and Moore will all likely be put up as trade bait, and I can see one or two of them leaving, which would leave us with 11 free spots on our list.

Thornton and Pyke will all but definately be upgraded from the rookie list, leaving us with 9 spots, and as usual I can see us trading from another club, leaving us with the 8 spots to recruit youngsters that Roos has expressed a desire to do.

 

[gaddo62]

Schmidt has been injured for most of the season and i really do think he will be in our first 22 once he gets fit.

Good point,but may not quite be able to force his way into the best 22 with so many other quality young players.

 

[RUNVS]

- Brabazon I feel will be delisted at the end of this year, has shown brief amounts of talent in the opportunities he's been given, but just not enough to call for a spot next year. Possibly re-rookied, but I doubt it.

I think Brabazon has shown enough to be retained next year. His game against Adelaide in Round 13 where he played off half back was quite promising and showed that he he does has potential to be a good player.

 

[BarneyBent]

B: LRT, C. Bolton, Richards
HB: Mattner, Grundy, Shaw
C: Barlow, Bird, McVeigh
HF: O'Keefe, Johnston, Goodes
F: Veszpremi, White, Moore
R: Jolly, Kirk, J. Bolton
I/C from: Pyke, Hannebery, Jack, Smith, Meredith, Schmidt, MOD, [Annual trade from another club]

Nice cut and paste job!

Do you not see Bevan in our side at all next year? He may be traded, but if not I would think, with the emergence of Smith down back, Roos would want to give him a bit of a run up forward.

 

[kira]

B: LRT, C Bolton, Bevan

HB: Mattner, Richards, Shaw

C: McVeigh, J Bolton, O'Keefe

HF: Grundy, Playfair, Goodes

F: Veszpremi, White, Moore

R: Jolly, Kirk, Bird

I/C: Currie, Hannebery, Jack, Smith, Meredith, Schmidt, Johnston, Barlow, Ablett


well that's my thoughts

players underlined are interchangeable with the guys on the bench most likely

 

[SM]

Nice cut and paste job!

Do you not see Bevan in our side at all next year? He may be traded, but if not I would think, with the emergence of Smith down back, Roos would want to give him a bit of a run up forward.

I thought yours was fine and just added my own bench.

Like I said, I left out guys like Malceski, Buchanan, Ablett and Bevan who may or may not have a future with us next year.

 

[Swans120]

Not Henry over Lewis PLEASE!!!!

Out of Moore, Ablett, Bevan, Buchanan and Malceski i think Amon is in the most trouble. Moore wont be going anywhere, he's in the leadership group this year as was Ablett last year (i think) and NOG was pretty ordinary alst year and he wasnt bandied about in trades. And Moore is younger and has far more upside looking at the future than Ablett did at the end of last year. Bevo wont be traded i believe but i think Amon is in real trouble of leaving the club and Mal could be bandied about too.

Ablett i think will now be kept, Roosy seems to like him playing across the HF line and he could come in handy next yeat while we blood more and more youngsters, having a big-bodied midfielder up our sleeves in case of emergency. I do think that NOG and Bevo could be considered similar players, hard, tough bodied players who can play midfield and forward (and Bevo can play defence obviously) so one may be considered surplus to requirement.

Will be very interesting to see who if anyone is thrown up for trade at the end of the year out of these guys mentioned.

 

[Dangas]

Hanners? Starter surely?

 

[Swans120]

^^^^

Meh it doesnt really matter. Nowadays the blokes who start on the bench come onto the ground 2 minutes after the opening bounce.

God we have so many midfielders, young and old. Goodesy has to be played forward from now on playing maybe 20% of match time in the middle.

 

[SM]

Yeah, my semi-daily Swans list assessment (otherwise known as 3 Unit English) produced this:

FB: LRT - Bolton - Shaw
HB: Malceski - Grundy - Mattner
C: Hannebery - McVeigh - J. Bolton
HF: Veszpremi - White - Richards
FF: Goodes - Johnstone - Moore
Foll.: Jolly - Jack - Kirk
INT: Pyke - Barlow - Smith - [New Trade-in player]

Don't really think I've missed anyone, and I suspect Mal will be in for Round 1.

 

[gaddo62]

Yeah, my semi-daily Swans list assessment (otherwise known as 3 Unit English) produced this:

FB: LRT - Bolton - Shaw
HB: Malceski - Grundy - Mattner
C: Hannebery - McVeigh - J. Bolton
HF: Veszpremi - White - Richards
FF: Goodes - Johnstone - Moore
Foll.: Jolly - Jack - Kirk
INT: Pyke - Barlow - Smith - [New Trade-in player]

Don't really think I've missed anyone, and I suspect Mal will be in for Round 1.

Ryan O'Keefe?Craig Bird?

 

[SM]

Haha eep, there you go. It's so damn hard.

Let's just say they both get traded.

Or:

FB: LRT - Bolton - Shaw
HB: Richards - Grundy - Mattner
C: Hannebery - McVeigh - J. Bolton
HF: O'Keefe - White - Veszpremi
FF: Goodes - Johnstone - Jack
Foll.: Jolly - Bird - Kirk
INT: Pyke - Barlow - Smith - [New Trade-in player]

 

[vonn]

have brett meredith and I just eloped or something... WHY ISN'T HE ON ANY LISTS.

 

[Swans120]

I had Meredith on my extended bench and i think thats where he should be at this stage. Was very good for a young guyin his first 7 games but i dont think he has solidified a spot in the 18. He was pretty much playing off the bench anyway.

 

[Spicy Swan]

Geee , you guys have gone early with this thread

 

[AG]

B: Grundy - LRT - Richards
HB: Shaw - Bolton - Mattner
C: Jack - McVeigh - Bird
HF: Hannebery - Goodes - O'Keefe
F: Vezspremi - White - Johnstone
R: Jolly - Kirk - Bolton
INT: Pyke - Smith - Barlow - Meredith