No, the major difference has been 10 important veterans that were playing high quality football, who are now not even good enough for the best 23 or delivering 2/10 to 5/10 performances every week. Father time gets everyone eventually.
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Thought he was one of our better defenders the past 2 weeks. Maybe we see things differently.
I fully expected the outcomes of the Sydney/Carlton games and wasn't especially confident against GWS/Melbourne (the Port game really surprised me, I have to admit) - but I actually give us a decent chance of bouncing back in this one if Dangerfield gets off. So it's a really big MRP tribunal for us this week. Win it and I think we can win the game, giving our season the faintest of pulses. Lose and it's probably time to start preparing for 2025.
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Reward VFL form. Knevitt, as a minimum, has to come in. Oh, and not as sub.
Mullin needs to work on his game in the VFL.
Other than that I don't care.
Mullin needs to work on his game in the VFL.
Other than that I don't care.
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For me Clark is a butcher of the ball and too slight of build to be a mid atm. Jury is out for me. and OHenry has had a taste and really is just a one trick pony with only a 1 wood in his bag. Needs to learn some new tricks and realise football is not downhill skiing event.
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Clark made poor decisions by foot but his kicking technique is good. He's kicking it like Bruhn last year who looked like a dear in headlights and the game was flying past him too quick to make smart decisions.
Bruhn after another 15 games has found his place and his kicking has been excellent this year. Get another 10-15 games into Clark and he's likely to do the same
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This may be stupid thinking, but it seems the MC likes Tuohy, though I'm not sure he's really a 4qtr player at this stage of his career - could he have an impact as sub though?
He offers a level of versatility - thinking I'd rather see a vet as the sub compared with a youngster stuck on the sidelines waiting for their turn
He offers a level of versatility - thinking I'd rather see a vet as the sub compared with a youngster stuck on the sidelines waiting for their turn
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I'm buoyed whenever PFD is in the team as I know he'll provide inspirational and self-sacrificial effort which seems to energise players around him - noticed a massive absence of players (not all) providing similar in the form of exceptionally brave efforts when it's 'time to go' or sustained gritty determination to wil the contest (again, not all) which represents the spiritual on-field leadership we currently lack
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Hope so… but atm I’d send him to the Magoos as Knevitt should be ahead of him. My optimism on Clark isn’t as high as some on here. Have we another Will Phillips clone? Hope not. Hope he’s a Wardlaw clone… one can hope can’t we? As for OHenry he’s had 60 games in two great clubs and his application is nowhere near it when it comes a few aspects of the game. Magoos for him asap. Shitsme2tears.
Conway a must, Mannagh too. I think a couple regulars need to pull their heads in, Close is definitely one who’s been pretty average this year, I’d be happy for him to be dropped for Mannagh.
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He played 18 games last year and we missed the 8.
No, you’re completely missing my point. It doesn’t matter if he’s on the field or not, he’s still the captain and addressing the team as captain.
Freo apparently had similar concerns with Fyfe a few years back.
If you think the captains attitude and influence only applies when he’s playing, then i don’t think you’re gonna understand.
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Out? (Maybe they will let us have and extra 3 though given our win loss?)
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O’Connor too. The trifecta.Second poster I have seen not endearing themselves to the Irish!
Ok. So I have only watched the first qtr highlights so far and it struck me that it has nothing to do with the “veterans”dropping off - at least from highlight perspective. 6 of our first 7 goals were driven (at least in highlight edits) by J and O Henry, Close, Miers, Holmes, Stengle, Close (with some help from Danger)…. All of those players will play next week and are NOT OLD - so no excuse not to take on responsibility again
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Since stepping into the role as captain last year, Dangerfield has missed 14 games & we've only won 3 of those - that would suggest we're missing leadership element from others stepping up in his absence
We tried going down the path of C & VC only, but maybe that wasn't the right balance for where this squad is currently at
Don't forget that he's not "revving the troops" everyday at training. Players will be working through their own programs and when you're in the rehab group like Dangerfield has been, he'd have additional focus on his own health to get back up - and he's often praised for his approach to that situation, the work he does with the club & then also on his own time in preparation for returning; things that should reflect as a positive on the playing group
What we've clearly been lacking in a number of our losses this year & last year is specifically that on-field leadership you want to see from the team captain. All too often in losses we've had senior, experienced players pointing fingers, death stares & words with others when things don't go right, and this includes from our acting captain in Stewart on more than a few occasions
Dangerfield is a larrikin and that wasn't going to change the moment he because captain - but when he's out there on the field, he's digging in & willing the team on, prepared to get in & under while trying to carry the team to a win. If he was out there for a few of those losses this season, maybe we reverse the close loss to instead being a close win
If a captains attitude & influence applies beyond game day, then I'd think that Dangerfield's approach is one that can leave a positive impact on others
Dangerfield was easily our best player during our 5-0 run in 2023 that got our season back track. Then he did a hammy, we hit a losing streak and right on his return he cracked his ribs/punctured his lung, essentially limping out the season at less than 50%. That was one of the central factors of 2023's demise.
But sure - his poor leadership is somehow the catalyst.
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True.
Well you don’t have to agree with my opinion, it’s just an opinion after all, but I said it could be a reason and it would be very ignorant to completely ignore it.
But what is your theory for the breakdown among the teammates?
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Waiting for the Dangerfield stuff but Hawkins obviously and probably O'Connor and Tuohy who they seem to 'manage' regularly now anyways. It's obviously far more complex than this but in my couch expert opinion I'd be throwing the wing keys to Knevitt and Dempsey (been amazing this season) and back them in for the rest of the year.
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