Autopsy Rd 3 vs Swans. 19 point loss

[BrisbaneCFC]

So the easy missed goals is the coach is it? Dow, Harry 2, Cripps ?

Easily left 4 goals out there today. Goals that an average AFL player should kick before breakfast.

 

[ShanDog]

My reductive conclusion for the problems we had this match is just that the players Weren't Good Enough - individually and in teamwork.

We rarely kick to the advantage of our players, and too often bring the opposition defender into the contest with a particularly bad pass. For whatever reason, when there is a chance to centre the ball and get some overlap run, we don't have anyone there. Great example is towards the back end of the game when we brought the ball out to Murphy near the centre square from the wing. He spins around and looks for the next pass / runner and sees nothing. You could see the look of exasperation on his face. So of course he kicks long down the line.

It might be a failure of coaching, but I suspect it's just got to do with poor performance on the players' behalf. Lack of ability to run through there, be it fitness or smarts. I don't think it's the game plan - it's just execution.

It's a time thing. I have no doubt this will improve. I just hope it improves sooner rather than later because I'm getting real sick of losing.

 

[HARKER]

Polson and Gibbons take a ******* walk

One shouldn't blame them alone, though.

In February Teague said, "We're looking for small forwards"
What? But it's February. How exactly did this situation come about?

"Right, we're all done and dusted for the year. I don't think we missed anything, did we?"
"Hey, what about small/medium goal-kicking forwards?"
"Oh, shit. Best we pick up that Gibbons guy, and turn Polson into the defensive small forward. Maybe Ed up front also. We should be right"

Still find it all just a little bit funny.

 

[murphster]

What does that have to do with it? We won the stoppages and clearances but ball movement and spreading is non existent. You don't need senior bodies to sprint 15 meters into space,

And got smashed in contested possessions, and senior bodies means “clean clearances” not off balance swings at the ball.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Another loss to collect, Polson is absolute rubbish, if he gets another game Bolton needs to go Specsavers and get glasses.....they got a special i heard....plowman, marchbank, and weitering in the same team is a no no.....the team selection this weak was a disgrace.....it looks like the Benny hill show out there.....no one lowering eyes just blasting the ball as far as possible....im am over hearing young team and young team, we want to attract players to the club and keep existing players. With the crap we are dishing every week, it going to get real hard...CFC has forgoten what it feels like to be a winner and be the hunter, and our players are just immune to being the prey and the loosers....Bolton as a coach in my opinion is way to passive, we need a coach with a little mongrel and unfortunatley he lacks that.....players know if they do something wrong it will be just a casual discussion......do that at hawthorn and clarkson will drag you over the coals....Liam jones Best game...

That's what I did this week. Hahaha. So good to be able to see things clearly again.

 

[rog1995]

A few observation's from today's game.
Firstly do we actually have a game plan?
Do the players understand the zone defence because it isn't working.
Secondly why did the MC select Marchbank without a game all year?
Thirdly I can tolerate losing but not when players who wear the jumper casually chase when we don't have ball without any intent. That's effort and want. Dow & O'Brien can't and shouldn't be gifted games. Need to be a lot harder and cleaner. Simply not good enough. This is the big time.
Lobbe just doesn't cut it at this level and offers nothing around the ground.
We seriously missed Cunners and Charlie today.

 

[AB_Blue]

We can’t carry Gibbons and Polson...that’s clear

Polson stays because Fas is unfit
Cunners is injured and Garlett is being “re-tooled”

I’d bring Kennedy in for setterfield as he’s not match fit and is still very inexperienced.

Gibbons can go back to the 2s and show us why he was a Liston medal winner. JSOS can come in and play mid/hff

Lobbe for Kruz because we just have too.

Then there is Levi....O’Brien, Plowman and many other passengers

Newman - Jones - Thomas
Marchbank - Weitering - Simpson
Walsh - Cripps - SPS
Murphy - McGovern - Ed. Curnow
Polson - McKay - JSOS
Kruz - Kennedy - Dow
O’Brien - Cas - Fisher - Plowman

In JSOS, Kruz, Kennedy
Out Gibbons, Lobbe, setterfield

I’d consider dropping Plowman for stocker, Garlett





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[thylacine60]

Umpires gifted that to the swans

garbage

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

it's fair to say that today we missed Phillips.

Nup, we didn't. Personally think we need at least three new Rucks. Including a new number 1.

 

[Bobmonkey]

Because disposal numbers and fantasy points has a lot to do with how backman are rated. Get a clue

Ok, if you wanna be like that, we can look at the seasonal averages.

Looks like Plowman has had a really strong start to the season with a balance between his intercept and pressure game.
he's also been the cleanest user of the ball.

Lachie Plowman:

Disposals: 14.7
Disposal Efficiency: 81.8
Rebound 50's: 3.7
Spoils: 4.7
Meters Gained: 186.4
Turnovers: 2.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 8
Pressure Acts: 13.3
One Percenters: 6.3
Tackles: 3


Liam Jones:

Disposals: 8
Disposal Efficiency: 75
Rebound 50's: 4.7
Spoils:7.3
Meters Gained: 116.4
Turnovers: 1.3
Intercept Marks: 2
Intercept Possessions: 5.7
Pressure Acts: 9
One Percenters: 8.3
Tackles: 3.3

Jacob Weitering:

Disposals: 13
Disposal Efficiency: 74.4
Rebound 50's: 3.7
Spoils: 8
Meters Gained: 230.3
Turnovers: 2
Intercept Marks: 3.7
Intercept Possessions: 8.3
Pressure Acts: 6.7
One Percenters: 8.3
Tackles: 1.7

Nic Newman:

Disposals: 22
Disposal Efficiency: 71.2
Rebound 50's: 9
Spoils: 1.3
Meters Gained: 545.4
Turnovers: 5.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 6.3
Pressure Acts: 14
One Percenters: 2
Tackles: 2.3

Kade Simpson:

Disposals: 19
Disposal Efficiency: 75.4
Rebound 50's:
Spoils: 1
Meters Gained: 341.1
Turnovers: 2.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 4.3
Pressure Acts: 9.7
One Percenters: 1.7
Tackles: 1.3

 

[pinot]

And got smashed in contested possessions, and senior bodies means “clean clearances” not off balance swings at the ball.

You are reading it incorrectly our contested poession to disposal percentage is way higher than the Swans which basicvally meant their ball movement was superior. We got smashed on the spread not on the inside. I thought we matched it but when we got it on the outside the players were stationary like they have been for past three years.

 

[thylacine60]

Heat will come on Bolton and so it should, Cripps the only thing stopping us from being a complete basket case.

garbage

 

[murphster]

31 losses out of the last 34 games, players continuing to miss the easiest of goals, players continuing to butcher the ball repeatedly, structure flies right out the window as soon as any pressure is applied to us....

If the same thing keeps happening year after year after year, what’s the point of having a coach if he can’t improve fix any of it?

That’s exactly what Tigirls supporters where saying the year before they won the flag and how long was Dimma the coach at that stage?

 

[Bobmonkey]

I’d consider dropping Plowman for stocker, Garlett

Seriously, do you people actually watch games, or just criticise players you hate?

 

[Opine]

We need a tall wingman/HFF who has pace, can take a contested mark, and is good at ground level. We also need cunners, and a quality small forward or 2 who can make opposition defenders shite themselves when ball spills. So close, yet so far.

 

[Pafloyul]

Easy to say, but there's no one else right now.

8 possessions (Polson 4 & Gibbons 4) and not a point between them, but we don't need small forwards.

Let's get real.

Your logic is rather circular, that's like saying I desperately need to replace a knife that's not useful to me. Every season it's 'if only we had better players in this position...' We have to be more subtle than that.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

You are reading it incorrectly our contested poession to disposal percentage is way higher than the Swans which basicvally meant their ball movement was superior. We got smashed on the spread not on the inside. I thought we matched it but when we got it on the outside the players were stationary like they have been for past three years.

Walsh was the one providing options offensively (and continuous follow up options) and was also the one working hardest to close down space defensively. He needs some help

 

[gardiner stand]

That midfield is way to young, things improved when Ed spent more time there (coaching move). Our disposal across the park was poor, even from mature players

That is true, you see setterfield and you think wow there’s A grade qualities in that move and then he stops chasing or misses a tackle ....it’s just a young man that needs time.
On Setterfield you can see the quality that will rise to the top in a couple of years but compared to say O’Brien and Polson I can’t see them making it.

 

[thylacine60]

Imagine a time when we can string four quarter of football together.
That time best be coming really really quickly

you really think we'll put a 4 quarter game together and then do it again the following week?

 

[Opine]

Nup, we didn't. Personally think we need at least three new Rucks. Including a new number 1.

Cant argue with that

 

[Bobmonkey]

You are reading it incorrectly our contested possession to disposal percentage is way higher than the Swans which basically meant their ball movement was superior. We got smashed on the spread not on the inside. I thought we matched it but when we got it on the outside the players were stationary like they have been for past three years.

We didn't get clean clearances which meant the next possession became contested as well.
We need cleaner use around stoppages so that our outside players can actually use the ball, otherwise we go from contest to contest until the ball is turned over.

 

[Jimmae]

Ok, if you wanna be like that, we can look at the seasonal averages.

Looks like Plowman has had a really strong start to the season with a balance between his intercept and pressure game.
he's also been the cleanest user of the ball.

Lachie Plowman:

Disposals: 14.7
Disposal Efficiency: 81.8
Rebound 50's: 3.7
Spoils: 4.7
Meters Gained: 186.4
Turnovers: 2.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 8
Pressure Acts: 13.3
One Percenters: 6.3


Liam Jones:

Disposals: 8
Disposal Efficiency: 75
Rebound 50's: 4.7
Spoils:7.3
Meters Gained: 116.4
Turnovers: 1.3
Intercept Marks: 2
Intercept Possessions: 5.7
Pressure Acts: 9
One Percenters: 8.3

Jacob Weitering:

Disposals: 13
Disposal Efficiency: 74.4
Rebound 50's: 3.7
Spoils: 8
Meters Gained: 230.3
Turnovers: 2
Intercept Marks: 3.7
Intercept Possessions: 8.3
Pressure Acts: 6.7
One Percenters: 8.3

Nic Newman:

Disposals: 22
Disposal Efficiency: 71.2
Rebound 50's: 9
Spoils: 1.3
Meters Gained: 545.4
Turnovers: 5.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 6.3
Pressure Acts: 14
One Percenters: 2

Kade Simpson:

Disposals: 19
Disposal Efficiency: 75.4
Rebound 50's:
Spoils: 1
Meters Gained: 341.1
Turnovers: 2.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 4.3
Pressure Acts: 9.7
One Percenters: 1.7

Can you add tackle numbers in there? Interested to see how much Newman is successfully laying a tackle, as opposed to ghosting someone enough for Champion Data to give him a participation medal.

I also get the impression they don't actually contextual judge whether or not the act actually pressures the ball carriers' kick.

 

[All Australian]

Ok, if you wanna be like that, we can look at the seasonal averages.

Looks like Plowman has had a really strong start to the season with a balance between his intercept and pressure game.
he's also been the cleanest user of the ball.

Lachie Plowman:

Disposals: 14.7
Disposal Efficiency: 81.8
Rebound 50's: 3.7
Spoils: 4.7
Meters Gained: 186.4
Turnovers: 2.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 8
Pressure Acts: 13.3
One Percenters: 6.3


Liam Jones:

Disposals: 8
Disposal Efficiency: 75
Rebound 50's: 4.7
Spoils:7.3
Meters Gained: 116.4
Turnovers: 1.3
Intercept Marks: 2
Intercept Possessions: 5.7
Pressure Acts: 9
One Percenters: 8.3

Jacob Weitering:

Disposals: 13
Disposal Efficiency: 74.4
Rebound 50's: 3.7
Spoils: 8
Meters Gained: 230.3
Turnovers: 2
Intercept Marks: 3.7
Intercept Possessions: 8.3
Pressure Acts: 6.7
One Percenters: 8.3

Nic Newman:

Disposals: 22
Disposal Efficiency: 71.2
Rebound 50's: 9
Spoils: 1.3
Meters Gained: 545.4
Turnovers: 5.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 6.3
Pressure Acts: 14
One Percenters: 2

Kade Simpson:

Disposals: 19
Disposal Efficiency: 75.4
Rebound 50's:
Spoils: 1
Meters Gained: 341.1
Turnovers: 2.3
Intercept Marks: 1
Intercept Possessions: 4.3
Pressure Acts: 9.7
One Percenters: 1.7

He’s a defender who can’t defend. Heeney this week, Motlop last week. Our lack of defensive midfield pressure doesn’t help but he hasn’t improved.

 

[thylacine60]

Levi ??? Really

Casboult was one of your better players today and really played well i thought , If he had not hit the post it may have been what changed the game


This was a game that Carlton snatched a loss from the jaws of victory thanks to a few passengers that clearly were not upto this level
LOB , Gibbons , Polson as well as a very bad game from Daisy Thomas who should have taken on the responsibility of controlling a rampant Heeney.

Could easily have won this game boys , Very disappointing

agree about daisy - awful

 

[HARKER]

Your logic is rather circular, that's like saying I desperately need to replace a knife that's not useful to me. Every season it's 'if only we had better players in this position...' We have to be more subtle than that.

Don't worry about the logic. There's a reason for that and you'll find it in another post.

In February we somehow found ourselves without any small forwards and had to manufacture them. That's why I said what I did. We don't have anyone else.