RedBulled Mock Draft 2016

[RedBulls]

It was a win/win trade.

I think Port got an amazing deal because you would think that 14&17 would get the 2 players Port wanted and an additional top 30 pick. So Port lost nothing and got an extra top 30 pick.

I would have been happy the Swans keeping those picks, but Logue is a player I think that we need and traded up for and I also think that who we wanted @ 17 Will be there @ 19.

It is interesting clubs have completely different draft boards, which makes for ana interesting draft night.

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Personally as a Port man I don't like what the list has done going into this draft with the crop available but so be it. Marshall, Hayward, Sharenberg and one of Brennan Cox or Jack Graham would be a good return for us out of that trade.

Because its such an even draft year every teams board will be so different, I'm excited to hear what the clubs have to say following the draft.

 

[DMan 11]

Great effort - thanks for sharing.
I'd be pumped if Freo's picks fell this way.
In both our first two selections the player is probably rated higher than where he'll fall due to circumstance ( I hope ) .
If rotham at 35 isn't there I'm hoping Luke Ryan is selected as second option - I'm of the belief our run and delivery out of defense is our weakest link atm.

 

[RedBulls]

Great effort - thanks for sharing.
I'd be pumped if Freo's picks fell this way.
In both our first two selections the player is probably rated higher than where he'll fall due to circumstance ( I hope ) .
If rotham at 35 isn't there I'm hoping Luke Ryan is selected as second option - I'm of the belief our run and delivery out of defense is our weakest link atm.

I think as time goes on Rotham goes further up the draft order which is unfortunate for teams because not even 6 weeks ago he was mid to second round pick. I do like him, I think he has extremely exciting potential and could play at any team next season, very few guys you could say that about in the draft so that's a positive for any team that selects him.

Ryan is more of an intercept quarterback type player, his only 186cm. He's like a Garrick Ibbotson type, but better, I think he could be in the top 20 defenders in the league, that's how highly I rate him, if you've seen him live this year you can be on the same page. I mentioned before I wouldn't even take a second look if he went in the first round even though he's a mature aged player, just like Isaac Smith did a few years ago. I'm interested to see what Freo do this draft they made some big calls with their list, they won the trade period Hamling, Kerstan, McCarthy and Hill are all amazing acquisitions and will prove pivotal moving forward. They have a lot of those rangy outside types over the ground, Langdon ect so personally I see holes in the tall department but Freo have a habit of not drafting talls till late which rules out guys like English, Marshall, Kerr, Battle and the like this year. Barlow is a big loss in the midfield rotation so I think they'll look to fill that initially. I like Zac Fisher around Freo's second pick but I'm not sure how two small guys in Neale and Fisher co exist. Both could definitely because they are elite talents, Neale and Fyfe look great together for next year, maybe if they went Fisher he starts as a half forward. If you look at who I've got for them though, Scrimshaw is a special talent with excellent size so he'll start across half back and help your run and carry you spoke of. Macreadie was toughted as a top 10 talent last year but just didn't put it together, he'd be a great foil for Hamling moving forward, Liam Ryan is likewise a special talent, WA boy, him and Walters could torment defenses which would be exciting and Narkle is a developing inside mid, something that was lost with Barlow going out, so it's an even spread across the board. Still maybe lacking another Ruckman, Darcy Cameron maybe in the rookie draft could be an option.

 

[doona]

Personally as a Port man I don't like what the list has done going into this draft with the crop available but so be it.

Pick trading always has that effect. A lot of Swans fans didn't like the deal, as we were going to make 4 selections in the draft. Have to trust in the recruiters, it's what they get the money for.

 

[avishka5]

I can't speak for the other games, but mate.... were you high during the Collingwood game?

Grundy got 45 hitouts and 19 disposals in that game. More than doubled the hitouts of Lycett. He thoroughly schooled him and in no way, shape or form did Lycett nullify his influence. Grundy's dominance in the middle was a big reason we won that game.

Hitouts aren't everything. Leuy had a truckload of hitouts first half against lycett but his impact was down, Goldy and Gawn might have had hitouts in the 50's but their general impact on the game were way down. Lycett performed the worst against grundy but grundy really started getting a clear dominance in that last qt when lycett was done as it was his first time all season rucking by himself.

Enjoyed this, good read.

Firstly with Lycett, his injuries are part of the reason why I think he'll be moved on at the end of next year. He's a second ruck, at best, his ruck work is sub par and he doesn't get enough of the ball around the ground to be an effective ruckman. As a second ruckman/3rd tall forward he doesn't mark the ball enough or kick enough goals, that's all I mean with him being moved on to accommodate someone else. I do think you need another ruckman for next year. Giles hasn't played a full season for 3 years now, he's a pinch hit ruckman. Vardy isn't a ruckman by any means so he only helps your forward line. McInnis is on the rookie list now if I'm not mistaken? He has nice size but I haven't seen him ruck much, he was drafted as a KPP so he strikes me as a Vardy type too. Lycett will have no pre season at all and potentially will miss the start of the season which means Giles and Vardy will have to do the bulk of the ruck work, that's a lot of pressure on both of them with no depth in the position until Lycett becomes fit and automatically hits peak form straight away.

Secondly I do agree with the midfield but in saying that don't underestimate the impact Sam Mitchell will have on this team. Age irrelevant with Mitchell he can do it all, he creates space and opportunities for guys all over the ground. Mitchell I think will be even better at West Coast because the midfield group is a lot stronger and deeper than he ever had at Hawthorn which will allow him to facilitate across half back at times too. I'm mouthwatering over him and Priddis together, Mitchell has never had that kind of contested ball help before. I agree on the one paced though. Guys like Masten, Sheed, Gaff, Yeo, Duggan and Hutchings are all basically the same pace, Lewis Jetta and Luke Shuey are really the only pace in the team. Partington I still think is a way off playing regularly and I don't think Nelson is anywhere near AFL level.

There will be a lot of those small forward types later draft and rookie draft so that wouldn't be the issue.

I think SPP is a great fit at West Coast, ideal actually of any team with him but he'd just be far too much of a reach at 12 and as much as I think he'll slip I don't think he'll make it to 34. Rotham is the other guy I think West Coast could use well. If Florent makes it through to 12 that would be a good fit also. I just think English makes sense at West Coast. I'll stand by that, originally I had English sliding to the Bulldogs at 18, if news of interest in one of those later guys like Cameron or Goddard comes through then obviously English won't go to West Coast, I just like the fit and being a WA boy makes sense too.

But no ruckmen we get in the draft will help us out next season. i actually want our midfield group to rove to average ruckwork than be used to getting it o a silver platter. Its holding us back tbh. Good midfields can rove to average midfields. Hawks, swans and dogs all have average rucks and yet have been dominant in recent years. I actually don't share the same excitment about Mitchell and priddis tbh. Our midfield will pretty slow with those two as well as sheed and hutchings/redden. Im keen for Mitchell but i rekon next year is the year Priddis's form will drop off a cliff. Its a trend for a lot of our players once they reach +30.

English will be less useful next year than guys like cameron and even goddard as he is literally no where near physically developed. Plus from the games i have seen of english, he's ruck work hasn't impressed me at all. Like i said before, i just rather get a young ruck late and give em a few years t develop.

Surprised you have Yeo as one paced cause yeo is very quick and pretty explosive. Probably not as explosive and shuey but i think he might be a bit quicker overall.

Only players i would reach for are SPP or bolton tbh. Im no keen on rotham and i don't think he will be a mid at the next level. Rotham i see as another Brodie smith (probably not as good). we kinda do have a need for a half back flanker but its not as big as the need for a small crumber or mid. Cole has been impressive in his first year at WAFL and nelson can and has been used there and has done a good job.

 

[RedBulls]

Updated Draft

 

[Thewlis Dish]

You have Brodie sliding to Port in your final mock? Is that what you want to happen or what you think will happen?

If he fell out of the top ten, I'd be stunned if he got past North, WC and Adel.

 

[RedBulls]

You have Brodie sliding to Port in your final mock? Is that what you want to happen or what you think will happen?

If he fell out of the top ten, I'd be stunned if he got past North, WC and Adel.

Honestly I don't rate Brodie that highly so it's much more of what I think will happen then what I want to happen. Neither Brodie or Witherden appeal to me much in sense of our list or anything really but it seems those are the 2 guys we are extremely keen on.

North look certain to select Florent and it's looked like that through everyone's eyes for 2 months now

West Coast I hope take Powell Pepper, I think player to club fit it's perfect and they're a little loaded with midfielders and inside mids that's why Berry makes sense, as well as a leadership sense.

Adelaide is the one who could certainly take Brodie and I wouldn't be surprised if they did at all, honestly I'd encourage the decision but I read in a few places they're looking for more of a forward/mid type so guys like Cameron and Atkins can push up the ground. Venables has to potential to be a Patrick Dangerfield type player so honestly with Adelaide it's just a ceiling potential player vs solid 200 game player.

 

[RedBulls]

This is very true, especially this year. For the last 6 months everyone has thought McCluggage would go 1 and now in the last 72 hours every single person has backflipped on that decision. I think that is what's so exciting about this year in particular.

In an ideal world I would have both Brodie and Berry to Gold Coast with Scrimshaw and Bowes. But it's not about what I see fit it's how clubs and recruiters see it all.

Same thing with what you said happened with Jordan Lewis, Port wanted him, Hawthorn stole him a few picks in front and the rest is history.

There's no certainties in drafting! We told Steele Sidebottom we'd draft him, went to his home told him to his face, brought him to the club, then he kicked a bag in the under 18's G/F, Freo picked Hill resulting in Zeiball sliding to our pick so we with JZ.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

North look certain to select Florent and it's looked like that through everyone's eyes for 2 months now

It seems to me everyone is just assuming we will take Florent because we've lost Harvey and Wells. The club is very good at keeping its list management decisions quiet and there is nothing publicly linking us to Florent. It may happen but people are only guessing.

 

[RedBulls]

It seems to me everyone is just assuming we will take Florent because we've lost Harvey and Wells. The club is very good at keeping its list management decisions quiet and there is nothing publicly linking us to Florent. It may happen but people are only guessing.

Educated guessing is what we do here bud.

North have holes all over the field so yes that pick could be anyone from Todd Marshall to Florent to Brodie to Simpkin. There are a lot of holes over the field. You're right about keeping stuff to themselves, them and West Coast and Fremantle I find the hardest to get a grip on.

 

[M Malice]

with the players you had available at our selections i would be elated to walk away from the draft with Ainsworth, Simpkin, Bolton and Powell-Pepper RedBulls

 

[RedBulls]

with the players you had available at our selections i would be elated to walk away from the draft with Ainsworth, Simpkin, Bolton and Powell-Pepper RedBulls

Brisbane have some really tough choices. But as it stands no matter how it goes I think they will be big winners in the draft. They've made their intentions in the draft really clear wanting pace as their main choice. I'll be fascinated to see if they pass on McCluggage to get Ainsworth whose said he wants to be there. If Ainsworth is picked then Simpkin is a shoe in at Brisbane because of the connections with Schache as well. Bolton is also a great fit there, probably the best for player to club honestly and well if West Coast do pass on SPP at 12 he'll go somewhere with Brisbane I would've thought.

If any of those guys are passed, Cedric Cox looks highly likely there. Witherden, Gallucci and Dylan Clarke are also guys I wouldn't be surprised to see there.

 

[Shazzman]

I really don't know about English to the Eagles. I think he'll be gone by our first pick and anyway I think I would prefer a midfielder, maybe Venables or Rotham ?

 

[sydney eagle]

And ,of course, we DID get both. Rotham's lack of weight concerns me a bit (77.4 kg according to "Inside Football Guide To The Draft"), but if he can put on a bit of muscle without losing any speed he could be a great get for the Eagles.

 

[2006_Eagles]

And ,of course, we DID get both. Rotham's lack of weight concerns me a bit (77.4 kg according to "Inside Football Guide To The Draft"), but if he can put on a bit of muscle without losing any speed he could be a great get for the Eagles.

What made you want Venables over SPP?

 

[sydney eagle]

What made you want Venables over SPP?

I simply thought that SPP wouldn't be available by the time the Eagles got to pick and, while I don't claim to be an expert on underage players, the writeups that I saw made Venables look like a good prospect who MIGHT be available.