Revising the 2006 draft, where do people place Gibbs in terms of potential?

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bomberstomake8 said:
i wouldnt hire you as a recruiter then... imo gibbs will overtake selwood and be the best player from the draft, actually the second best (gumby is obviously gonna be the best :D)
in all seriousness the kid is just so polished all round, people think that because he isnt racking up possessions in the 30s that he isnt worthy of a number pick, i can tell you now watching the game against carlton on the weekend everytime gibbs got the ball i flinched.. his skills are just plain awesome. what he does with the ball is great.. give him another year maybe two and he will be up there with the elite.

hansen will also be a good pick up, but wont have the impact gibbs will
of course thats just my opinon
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roughly 1 in 10 bigfooty posters know what to look out for when judging young players. you just happen to be one of them. and not only about gibbs but about hansen and gumby as well. it seems hansen just needs to get some mental issues sorted out and gumby just needs to stay on the park. selwood will be a champion but as i said before he hasn't got much room to improve in apart from bulk and fitness.
 

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Honestly the number 1 pick never ever turns out the best player from the draft. How many times has that happened? Once? Twice possibly?

Still going to be a gun. Dont feel so bad blue boys.
 
rose jam said:
when your number 1 pick is tagging a back pocket player you know you've wasted a pick
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We lost both the games against Collingwood when he held two of your young guns, so clearly he's a dud. :cool:
wegs on pendles said:
Very very overated
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Is this thread about Gibbs?

Or Collingwood, Brown, Thomas and Pendlebury? :confused: :cool:

You clowns obviously didn't see the game on the weekend.

Just like Buckley and Hird, Gibbs just puts himself in the right position to win the ball on Sunday and cleared it to advantage. Gibbs' effort to strip the slippery Leroy Jetta of the ball with a clean tackle was the most exciting thing he did in the game.

He works hard both ways and is a complete player.
 
prisonbars3 said:
i remember at the time it was announced, i was the happiest supporter on the planet when i found out gibbs wasn't going to adelaide under the F/S rule. i knew at that instance that he would be the no.1 pick. i remember i used to watch gibbs sometimes in the u/17s and reserevs of glenelg and a bit in the u/16 and u/18 champs as well and i just could not believe the amount of natural football talent someone his age could have, it was almost non-human i hadn't seen anything of its kind prior and haven't since. i don't know much about the other kids who got drafted, i've come to know boak pretty good and i think he was a massive bargain for us at pick 5. for the people who got to see a lot of the other players, were you of the opinion that gibbs was the best in his draft or did some of you think that there were other players more worthy of a no.1 selection.

i think in terms of output since the draft was made i'd have the top 5 in this order:
1-selwood
2-boak
3-gibbs
4-n.brown
5-leunberger

in terms of who i think will end up the best out of them i'd put them in this order (keep in mind i don't know much about the non-SA boys except boak):
1-gibbs
2-boak
3-selwood
4-leunberger
5-gumbleton

(and sellar was a super prospect before adelaide picked him up and made him what he is now, i hope port look to make a trade for him so he can one day fulfil his potential).
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i've found one person who thinks gibbs will END UP better than selwood.

i'm just interested to know if there's anyone else out there (non-carlton supporters preferably) who also think gibbs will end up the best from this draft.

imo he will (and believe me i'm not biased because i admit that imo pendlebury will be better than murphy and cotchin will be better than kreuzer though maybe not as valuable) end up the best from this draft.

i thought selwood was streets ahead of gibbs atm (obviously playing in a better team, getting more opportunity and being more afl ready in terms of physically and being 10 months older) but i checked the stats and was surprised to see that gibbs is averaging 0.6 more kicks per game, 4 times as many goals (both despite being played in defensive roles more often than not) and the same amount of tackles. now this isn't to say that gibbs is better than selwood atm because i don't think he is, however i think by the end of his career gibbs will be the best from this draft (and probably by a fair margin too).

now if you disagree that's ok and i understand you so you don't have to jump all over me. i'm just asking the question to see if other people can see the same signs in gibbs that imo will one day make him one of, if not the best player in the league.
 
I was thinking of doing the stat thing but you've done it already. That's also putting into consideration that Gibbs is given jobs on a regular occasion and Selwood is free to find the pill.

Really though, they are both outstanding prospects, but I agree that Gibbs just seems to have a bit more polish and probably more versatile.

The massive upside with Gibbs and Selwood for that matter, is they are both as hard as nails, leaders and can both do things to change the course of a match. Outstanding for any 19 year olds.

Why does Collingwood supporters hate Gibbs? May be because Shaw has a total of about ten possies on him in two games? Any chance!!
 
Gibbs was drafted as a 17 year old...he has a beautiful kick and good vision, although he could be harder at the contest, it doesn't stop players from becoming good players.

All this bagging of Gibbs' is very undeserved although I do feel that he perhaps should've been dropped on a few occasions at the start of the year. He still needs a few pre-seasons to make an impact as a fully-fledged midfielder
 
murph#3 said:
i've found one person who thinks gibbs will END UP better than selwood.

i'm just interested to know if there's anyone else out there (non-carlton supporters preferably) who also think gibbs will end up the best from this draft.

imo he will (and believe me i'm not biased because i admit that imo pendlebury will be better than murphy and cotchin will be better than kreuzer though maybe not as valuable) end up the best from this draft.

i thought selwood was streets ahead of gibbs atm (obviously playing in a better team, getting more opportunity and being more afl ready in terms of physically and being 10 months older) but i checked the stats and was surprised to see that gibbs is averaging 0.6 more kicks per game, 4 times as many goals (both despite being played in defensive roles more often than not) and the same amount of tackles. now this isn't to say that gibbs is better than selwood atm because i don't think he is, however i think by the end of his career gibbs will be the best from this draft (and probably by a fair margin too).

now if you disagree that's ok and i understand you so you don't have to jump all over me. i'm just asking the question to see if other people can see the same signs in gibbs that imo will one day make him one of, if not the best player in the league.
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Will be a good player, I don't think he will be great. Just has not shown anything other than AFL standard competence to me.
 

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murph#3 said:
i've found one person who thinks gibbs will END UP better than selwood.

i'm just interested to know if there's anyone else out there (non-carlton supporters preferably) who also think gibbs will end up the best from this draft.

imo he will (and believe me i'm not biased because i admit that imo pendlebury will be better than murphy and cotchin will be better than kreuzer though maybe not as valuable) end up the best from this draft.

i thought selwood was streets ahead of gibbs atm (obviously playing in a better team, getting more opportunity and being more afl ready in terms of physically and being 10 months older) but i checked the stats and was surprised to see that gibbs is averaging 0.6 more kicks per game, 4 times as many goals (both despite being played in defensive roles more often than not) and the same amount of tackles. now this isn't to say that gibbs is better than selwood atm because i don't think he is, however i think by the end of his career gibbs will be the best from this draft (and probably by a fair margin too).

now if you disagree that's ok and i understand you so you don't have to jump all over me. i'm just asking the question to see if other people can see the same signs in gibbs that imo will one day make him one of, if not the best player in the league.
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Got any stats on gametime murph? Selwood spends a lot of time on the pine as part of a pretty decent midfield rotation. Seems Gibbs is on the field a little more.

Selwood is already being thought of as an established gun player. He is not a 'potential' player, everything he does now is judged to a tougher criteria than Gibbs.
 
Its very very very early.

How was Cooney going at the same stage? Even Buddy was in and out of the hawks at the same stage. Rough was still in and out a year later. Delidio at the same stage - he is just starting to show how good he really is now?

Gary Ablett Snr had been delisted by the hawks at the same stage of his career and was playing country footy!

Selwood is a freak to get up and going so early - very few can do that. It doesn't mean he is going to be the better player though.
 
QuietB said:
Its very very very early.

How was Cooney going at the same stage? Even Buddy was in and out of the hawks at the same stage. Rough was still in and out a year later. Delidio at the same stage - he is just starting to show how good he really is now?

Gary Ablett Snr had been delisted by the hawks at the same stage of his career and was playing country footy!

Selwood is a freak to get up and going so early - very few can do that. It doesn't mean he is going to be the better player though.
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True - but not so many of the kids drafted in 2006 will ever make it to the level Selwood is already at. He is playing as a fully fledged midfielder in the reigning premiers, not being played to "get 50 games into him and he'll be a good player" either.
 
The insults being slung around here are ingenious.

I have never been more ashamed to be Australian. Bunch of mongoloids.

Anyway, Gibbs is playing good footy ATM. He's certainly justifying his selection.
 
I know KPP take longer to develop, but so far Gibbs is showing why he was #1. Some great depth in that draft, but Selwood is the only other player you'd definitely pick ahead of Gibbs. It won't stay that way, but if your #1 pick becomes the 2nd best player of the draft you'd generally take that.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
I know KPP take longer to develop, but so far Gibbs is showing why he was #1. Some great depth in that draft, but Selwood is the only other player you'd definitely pick ahead of Gibbs. It won't stay that way, but if your #1 pick becomes the 2nd best player of the draft you'd generally take that.
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Very true, cannot complain with that at all.

I still cannot grasp how people put Gibbs ahead of some of the others when we are talking about potential though.

There is potentially an entire spine of the AA team in this draft for the next 10 years.

Not all of those players will reach those lofty heights, and I am sure Gibbs is the most likely to reach those heights, but some of the other players taken from this draft are potentially going to give a lot more headaches to opposition coaches than Gibbs is. Sincerely no disrespect.

Just think people are too short sighted when it comes to drafts, especially this one, as it has perhaps the most quality KPP's ever taken from the one draft.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
I know KPP take longer to develop, but so far Gibbs is showing why he was #1. Some great depth in that draft, but Selwood is the only other player you'd definitely pick ahead of Gibbs. It won't stay that way, but if your #1 pick becomes the 2nd best player of the draft you'd generally take that.
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A lot of the highly rated KP's in the '06 draft are still a season or two from making their mark, in a few years time we will be able to better judge
 
wegs on pendles said:
Very very overated
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And had you been a poster on this site in mid-2004 you'd have been one of the legions of dipshits who said the same thing about Adam Cooney.

Four years on after being written off by the usual procession of clowns and jibberers he's arguably the Dogs' best player and one of the favourites for the Brownlow.

Can't wait for Gibbs to make the doubters look silly in the same fashion. He will be an out and out star. No question.
 
I don't really care if Gibbs is or will be the best from that draft. What you generally get from a #1 pick 90% of the time is a very good footballer who is at the very least one of the top handfull of draftees in any particular year.

Generally the most consistant at jnr level junior will go #1 not necessarily the flashiest. What you end up with is a +200 game player who will be of great value to a team for a generation.

What Gibbs brings to Carlton is very good footskills and poise. Is already our most skilled player, which says a lot considering he's only 19 years old. Like Judd, Gibbs doesn't have to get 30+ possies to be one of our best contributers.

Showed a lot of class kicking 3 goals on the weeked. Two in the last quater to help win the game for us. I am more than happy with young Gibbs develoopment thus far.

Best of luck to the other quality youngsters from the 06 draft. There are many future stars amongst this lot who will shine for years to come. :thumbsu:
 

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