Richmond vs Brisbane - NAB Challenge - Friday 13th @ 7:30pm @ Gold Coast Stadium

[Barnzy123]

Don't think temperature or anything really matters. Both teams have over a week to prepare for Round 1.

Maybe Mitch Robinson will get really badly sunburnt and be sidelined for a few weeks?

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

So you'd play 4 taller defenders in Rance, McGuane, Moore and Thursty aswell as Bowden?

Tambling is in our best 22.

 

[Barnzy123]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

So you'd play 4 taller defenders in Rance, McGuane, Moore and Thursty aswell as Bowden?

Tambling is in our best 22.

Tambling's spot in our team should be taken by Thomson or Polo till he proves himself. I also just noticed that, why isn't Polo playing? He's been pretty good, definatly stepped up and I'm a hard marker. Infact I'll go to the lengths of I'm nearly amazed his not playing, maybe because we are trying out our ruck options by playing 3 rucks? What do people think?

 

[PHX]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

So you'd play 4 taller defenders in Rance, McGuane, Moore and Thursty aswell as Bowden?

Tambling is in our best 22.

Without studying what type of forward-line Brisbane will exactly have, yes I would set up like that.

One for Bradshaw, One for Brown, one for Luenburger/Clarke/Henderson, one to be the man to drop in front of Brown. 4 in backline.

And Bowden stays in the forward line like a good boy.


Well I thought Tambling was too but after picking a side, it turned out he was a remainder.

Tambling's spot in our team should be taken by Thomson or Polo till he proves himself. I also just noticed that, why isn't Polo playing? He's been pretty good, definatly stepped up and I'm a hard marker. Infact I'll go to the lengths of I'm nearly amazed his not playing, maybe because we are trying out our ruck options by playing 3 rucks? What do people think?

Polo has played all the games so far hasn't he? Probably a rostered week off.

 

[Morro]

i'll be there morro, but i'm sure that my bro will talk you about it anyway.

Yeah mate he has, I think you guys are comin to my place first??? see ya then.

 

[dothebowdenshuffle]

Playing 3 ruckmen. Pretty decent side anyways, nearly side I would take into round 1 - a ruckman and Bowden + Thomson, Nahas. Anyone else noticeably missing who are fit? Hopefully Browne totally shows up Graham, that would make TW eat his own words, once again and might have to rethink our 2nd ruck option.

Browne and Nahas are both rookies, so we'd have to place someone on long-term injury list. I think this also precludes them playing with Coburg (both 1sts and 2nds) so probably can't do that with Polak and Petts is due back around Rd 5/6 - I think long-term injury list placement is min 8 weeks. I saw Browne last week in Shepp and he rucked much better than Vickery or Graham. Be good to see if he can back that effort up.

 

[cormick]

Hopefully Browne totally shows up Graham, that would make TW eat his own words, once again and might have to rethink our 2nd ruck option.

Wouldn't it be better if Graham absolutely showed all other ruckmen up, thus making you eat your words, but also sparking a glimmer of hope that we might have a decent player on our hands?

 

[PHX]

Wouldn't it be better if Graham absolutely showed all other ruckmen up, thus making you eat your words, but also sparking a glimmer of hope that we might have a decent player on our hands?

I would think so.

 

[Barnzy123]

Browne and Nahas are both rookies, so we'd have to place someone on long-term injury list. I think this also precludes them playing with Coburg (both 1sts and 2nds) so probably can't do that with Polak and Petts is due back around Rd 5/6 - I think long-term injury list placement is min 8 weeks. I saw Browne last week in Shepp and he rucked much better than Vickery or Graham. Be good to see if he can back that effort up.

They just announced today that Cotchin will be out atleast until round 8 so that probably means rounds 10-12 with the RFC. Technically we could put him on there but no games in Coburg is the problem. There has also been word of placing Pett's on the LTI lately. Polak is really the logical option here, he seems along way off, more than 8 weeks atleast.

Whatever happens atleast they seem keen to elevate atleast one of Browne/Nahas.

 

[Barnzy123]

Wouldn't it be better if Graham absolutely showed all other ruckmen up, thus making you eat your words, but also sparking a glimmer of hope that we might have a decent player on our hands?

Most definatly but we all know how likely that is to happen.

 

[PHX]

They just announced today that Cotchin will be out atleast until round 8 so that probably means rounds 10-12 with the RFC. Technically we could put him on there but no games in Coburg is the problem. There has also been word of placing Pett's on the LTI lately. Polak is really the logical option here, he seems along way off, more than 8 weeks atleat.

Whatever happens atleast they seem keen to elevate atleast one of Browne/Nahas.

I'm pretty sure I read Petts has already been placed on the LTI and wont be eligible to play for Coburg until round 4.

Polak wont be going on the LTI, because then he can't play for the Coburg Reserves, which he'll be doing in stints straight away so it seems.

 

[TOOs_Finest]

Yes, we can still elevate one rookie to replace Pettifer, until he comes off in round 3 or 4 - forget which.

In my opinion, Nahas hasn't done enough yet, maybe after another year. Seems to spend more time chasing the guy with the footy, rather than getting it... gets knocked off the contest too easily for now.

Looks to me as though they are playing an extra ruckman after Browne's good showing last Friday, someone like Polo or Thompson is likely still in the reckoning.

Although Rance is considered by many as a tall defender, he is very mobile and I think he can be used just as well as a running defender, or tall wingman (eg. when Richo is resting). He ran around off the wing with Goddard just fine for a half last Friday night.

 

[hoggy34]

Looking at the squad it seems that we are using the team that is likely to line up in Round 1 with the possible exception of Thompson & Polo.

The line up this weekend could be something along these lines:

B 11. Joel Bowden 2. Will Thursfield 16. Luke McGuane
HB 4. Andrew Raines 40. Kelvin Moore 17. Chris Newman
C 12. Matthew Richardson 21. Shane Tuck 30. Richard Tambling
HF 32. Ben Cousins 8. Jack Riewoldt 20. Mitch Morton
F 7. Nathan Brown 25. Jay Schulz 35. Matt White
Foll 5. Troy Simmonds 3. Brett Deledio 41. Nathan Foley
Int 10. Shane Edwards 13. Jordan McMahon 23. Daniel Jackson
18. Alex Rance 43. Andrew Browne 44. Angus Graham

As for Rd 1 (assuming there are no injuries). One of Graham or Browne will miss out and possibly Rance or Edwards although I hope Plough bites the bullet and dumps McMahon.

On paper that just not a great side. Backline looks solid with Moore likely to start on Fev and Will and McGuane in reserve.

The midfield may be lacking in quality aside from Lids, Foley, Tuck & Cousins. Unless Jackson shuts down Judd and White looks after Murphy or Gibbs Carlton could run us off our feet as they did in the centenary game last season. Simmonds needs a big game in the ruck.

Forward line will rely on Morton and Brown to kick the goals with Richo floating forward.

A fit Cotchin, Coughlan and to a lesser extent Connors would be a great help but we have to play with the cards that have been dealt.

Could be a battle for the Tiges in 2 weeks time.

 

[_RT_]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

Cheers Antho.

A quick team draw up.

B: Thursfield - Moore - Raines
HB: Newman - McGuane - Rance
C: Cousins - Tuck - Richardson
HF: Edwards - Riewoldt - Morton
FF: Brown - Schulz - Bowden
Foll: Simmonds, Deledio, Foley

Int: McMahon, Jackson, White, Graham

Subs: Andrew Browne, Richard Tambling


Hmm, I guess I don't see Tambling in the best 22 of our side.

From what I've read about the other games I don't think there are subs in the NAB Challenge games, just the extended bench.

As for the line up I would have the following:

B: Newman Moore Thursfield
HB: Raines McGuane McMahon
C: Deledio Jackson Richo
HF: Cousins Riewoldt Morton
F: Brown Schulz Tambling
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
I: Bowden Edwards Graham Browne Rance White

Just a few points:
- Have to play the back 6 that we're going to play Round 1 give them the game to get used to each others habits and tendancies.

- With Jackson being played as a stopper, he has to start in the guts. Along with Tuck and Foley we have 3 pretty decent clearance players who can then feed out to the likes of Deledio, Cousins, Raines and McMahon coming in off the square.

- Stick Tambling in the forward pocket, he showed against the Pies that he can play well as a leading forward. Along with Morton, Brown and Cousins they could form a very dangerous small/mid sized forward pack. Very hard to match up on as well.

- We have to start the best 18 on the park. While Rance, Edwards and White have been pretty good over the summer I don't think they have established themselves in the 18 just yet.

- I would expect Polo to be the one who comes in for Browne and Thomson in for White when the round 1 side is named. Making the 3 emergencies for round 1 White, Edwards and Rance.

 

[TheCuzEffect]

Richmond name big Guns for Clas against Brisbane

Richmond Have named Deledio, Foley, Richardson, Tuck, Brown and cousins join a near full strength team.

Ben Cousins Will Have a Awesome game showing the lions youngsters are thing or two about playing at such a high level.

Richmond By 35 points

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73100/default.aspx

 

[PHX]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

Wasnt sure what rules went over into the nab challenge and what didn't but I'm glad it's a 6 man interchange instead of subs.

- I would expect Polo to be the one who comes in for Browne and Thomson in for White when the round 1 side is named. Making the 3 emergencies for round 1 White, Edwards and Rance.

Thomson over White and Edwards? Lost your marbles, RT?

But a more substantial point would be that 24-3=21 so we'd be running out on the paddock 1 down.

- Stick Tambling in the forward pocket, he showed against the Pies that he can play well as a leading forward.

Only if he's decided he has the balls to kick them.

 

[TOOs_Finest]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

From what I've read about the other games I don't think there are subs in the NAB Challenge games, just the extended bench.

Confirmed... http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25075427-19742,00.html

- With Jackson being played as a stopper, he has to start in the guts. Along with Tuck and Foley we have 3 pretty decent clearance players who can then feed out to the likes of Deledio, Cousins, Raines and McMahon coming in off the square.

Totally agree

- Stick Tambling in the forward pocket, he showed against the Pies that he can play well as a leading forward. Along with Morton, Brown and Cousins they could form a very dangerous small/mid sized forward pack. Very hard to match up on as well.

Now that you mention it, this seems like a good idea to me also. As long as these guys don't fall into the trap of clogging up the forward 50. Might be a case of only having 2 of the 3 on the ground at any one time. If Schulz starts at FF, they need to do it properly and give him as much space as possible.

- I would expect Polo to be the one who comes in for Browne and Thomson in for White when the round 1 side is named. Making the 3 emergencies for round 1 White, Edwards and Rance.

I'm not totally sold on Gus as the the 2nd ruckman yet, and still hold on to the idea of Browne as a smokey for Rd 1, maybe to catch Carlton a little off guard. I haven't actually read the article where Wallace committed to Graham, but this could well have been a furfy, with the two being told in private that regardless of what was said in the press, they are fighting for a spot in the 22. But that's just my thinking.

 

[Rancid_Beasties]

Good signs for browne that he was kept in a near full strength side!

Maybe he more than just a lump at this stage, which was my first thought. Maybe its just that its the first time in years (possibly ever) that we have had a bloke well over 200cm on the list and the staff are just shocked at how much that height really makes a difference.

 

[sante]

Hoping for no injuries...

 

[c_malyon]

Firstly, its good to hear that our membership has hit record numbers, but it sucks that Cotchin wont be back until Round 3 at least.

This is my starting 22 or what ever it is for NAB Challenge, for the upcoming NAB Four against Brisbane at Gold Coast followed by some notes...

B: Thursfield Moore Newman
HB: Rance McGuane Raines
C: Deledio Tuck Richardson
HF: Cousins Riewoldt Morton
F: Brown Schulz Tambling
FOL: Foley Simmonds Jackson

INT: Bowden Graham McMahon White Browne Edwards

A Few Points:

• First thing is that i know a lot of people will notice where i placed Cousins, the reason for this is because when we versed Collingwood in NAB Two Cousins started at half forward for the first few minutes of the game to get him back into it, i think the same thing will happen on Friday Night...having said that he will spend most of the game either on the wing or in the guts..
• BACK LINE: Moore was an obvious choice at Full Back but he could move forward to Centre Half Back depending on Jonathon Brown and how McGuane can contain him. Thursfield was also an obvious choice but because of the similar build between himself, McGuane and Moore these positions will likely change...and for Newman it was either Back Pocket and Half Back Flank, i chose the pocket because the fight for a position in the half back line is fierce and we have numerous players fighting for it.
• HALF BACK LINE: I decided to give Rance a spot in the starting 18, he's young and contests at the footy really well, he could be a real gem for this club so keep an eye on him. McGUane at Centre Half Back, could be moved depending on how well he does on Brown, but he is tall and built like a brick dunny so he should be fine. Raines was my final choice on the Half Back Flank for the basic fact that he has the run and carry off Half Back that can set up our midfield really well.
• CENTRE: With Cousins in the side, and Richo at his best, the wing spots are tough to come by, Richo is an obvious starter, no need to explain that. Deledio to start opposite basically for his pace, that can make a coach tear his hir out, and his control of the footy. Tuck is a regular starter in the guts and i would expect him to stay there. Expect these positions to chop and change as Cousins gets into the game.
• HALF FORWARD LINE: I will leave Cousins as i have already explained my reasons for putting him on the flank. Riewoldt has built up his dukes over the summer and expect him to have plenty of the footy and shots on goal, hopefully he has had some practice on goal since the Collingwood game, if he is on song i would be expecting 3 or 4 from him. Mitch Morton is back for another year, he was really a silent hero last year, equal second on the goal kicking list for the club with 35 (and he missed half the year) Expect the same from him 3 or 4.
• FORWARD LINE: First off Nathan Brown, an obvious starter, as he is back to full fitness he will terrorise brisbanes back line, as long as gets feed the ball nicely, i dont think his goal kicking will be a problem, expect him to impress. Schulz is a very popular choice after a stellar performance against the Saints last weekend, no doubts on a start from him, all tiger fans will hope that he has finally found form as a key forward. Tambling is my final choice in the forward pocket, despite what people say, Tambling is part of our best 22, with his speed, and eagerness for the footy he should be good at keeping the loose ball inside the forward 50, and feeding it to the likes of Brown and Riewoldt.
• FOLLOWERS: Simmonds an obvious choice as our starting Ruck, although expect Angus Graham to have a crack as well, i put Jackson in there on the basis that i have been liking his hand skills, as well as his grit and determination for the footy, definitely Mr. Consistent in the Pre-Season, what I'm hoping from him is quick handballs out to our running wingmen, or to the likes of Foley, who is my last pick, definitely a starter, for any club really... His burst out of the centre and delivery is second to none.
• INTERCHANGE: Expect all players to get a fair share as they are nearly all deserved of a spot against Carlton, it would be interesting to see the reasons behind Browne being chosen, hopefully he wont prove Plough wrong.

Also will anyone be at the game giving reports on BigFooty?

 

[Danog]

FOL: Foley Simmonds Jackson

Foley can ruck too?!

 

[c_malyon]

Foley can ruck too?!

He will fit in as ruck rover..

 

[sante]

Moore is a forward though...and Tuck in the middle

 

[_RT_]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

Wasnt sure what rules went over into the nab challenge and what didn't but I'm glad it's a 6 man interchange instead of subs.

Thomson over White and Edwards? Lost your marbles, RT?

But a more substantial point would be that 24-3=21 so we'd be running out on the paddock 1 down.

Only if he's decided he has the balls to kick them.

No, I haven't lost my marbles, just think Thomson gives us more in terms of getting in and winning the ball in packs. I just think that with Thomson in it means we don't have to keep Foley or Tuck on the ball for extended periods we can rest them a bit more which should help them run out games better.

My starting bench would be Graham Bowden Polo and Thomson to go with the starting 18 I put up already.

Would hope that he does, even if he doesn't kick goals, I think we could utilise his speed better in the F50 as a defensive weapon. Get him to sit in the F50 and use his speed in bursts to chase and tackle defenders trying to run the ball out, then when we're attacking he has shown he can take a grab on the lead. I believe the reason we don't see Richie using his speed as often in games is because he is covering too much ground so that when he wants to use his speed in a chase he just can't go.

 

[TigerAntho]

Re: NAB Cup Round 4: Brisbane v Richmond

No HUGHES! Maybe he won't get the FF spot as we thought?