AFL Autopsy RND 12: Loss to the Saints

[Milanista28]

Cos they've been right on everything else...
Enough is enough...
Stop this delusion, WE ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT FOOTBALL.

I think you're right but they don't so this will continue, I think the fact that we can't trade our 1st rounder is the only reason we won't trade it, if we could we would IMO.

 

[yodellinhank]

I think you're right but they don't so this will continue, I think the fact that we can't trade our 1st rounder is the only reason we won't trade it, if we could we would IMO.

Is there anything stopping them from trading future first rounders

 

[Milanista28]

Is there anything stopping them from trading future first rounders

eth-dog He'll know

 

[DapperJong]

There aren’t enough crayons or playdough in the world to help you understand the complexity of advanced statistics.

You’ve already shown a proclivity towards your understanding of the game.

You’re better served using your “this guy blows” or “that guys a rock star” approach Vs opening your horizons or starting the learn the intricacies of football analysis.


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I am big happy about you use big words very nice

 

[Bombermania]

If the media headlines screamed Essendon was folding, I probably wouldn't care because I don't think the players do.

The side has injuries but surely the second tier players want to come in and show why they should be in the side.

 

[eth-dog]

Is there anything stopping them from trading future first rounders

We can't this year, unless a bid comes in for Brand in the first round or we bring in another first.

 

[BrunoV]

What about when Ridley has marked the ball at HB? Too many just jog aimlessly and drag the opposition into lanes others could be leading into.

At least against St Kilda, by the time Ridley had the ball St Kilda already had a lot of numbers behind the ball. The reason for the hesitation is usually because the space is already gone.

The difference between the backs and the mids is that the mids are getting the ball at a point on the ground when the opponent is most vulnerable (not necessarily with the time to get numbers back).

 

[Squeaky]

I think you're right but they don't so this will continue, I think the fact that we can't trade our 1st rounder is the only reason we won't trade it, if we could we would IMO.

I fear that you are correct about this.
100% delusional if they think we can trade out way back to being anywhere half decent.
We can trade in whoever we like but the culture of EFC is the issue.
That is why our younger players do not develop like other clubs - it is why players we get in are too soon 'Essendoned' and look to lose confidence, hardness, or their 'edge' that made them look like good recruits at the start.

 

[carloss]

My favourite bit of play was when we switched the ball in the back lines. The camera behind the goals showed that the St Kilda zone had moved across and we had almost zero to kick to and badly out numbered.

 

[faible]

My favourite bit of play was when we switched the ball in the back lines. The camera behind the goals showed that the St Kilda zone had moved across and we had almost zero to kick to and badly out numbered.

That was good footage, and good commentary from (I think) Hodge explaining what was going on.

St Kilda players were running ahead of ours, working harder to block the space than our guys were working to get in to space.

Instead of being able to execute the switch and having someone(s) working hard to lead to space to open up play, we allowed St Kilda to shut the outlet down.

 

[Bjchan13]

That was good footage, and good commentary from (I think) Hodge explaining what was going on.

St Kilda players were running ahead of ours, working harder to block the space than our guys were working to get in to space.

Instead of being able to execute the switch and having someone(s) working hard to lead to space to open up play, we allowed St Kilda to shut the outlet down.

Were we physically not capable of leading into space? Or were we physically capable but just couldn't be bothered? Or are we too dumb to know to run into space?

 

[Lore]

Interesting to hear Daisy Pearce comment at quarter time that after 8 handballs in the 1st quarter McGrath was actually -17 meters.

Sounds a lot like nTg (net overall rating), doesn’t it.....


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Does it surprise you that the metres gained stat is in the negatives when you concede meterage? Or did you think you invented it with "nTg"?

 

[Halftimehero]

Interestingly Dylan Shiel only played 68mins of game time, I wonder if he he’s carrying an injury? Doesn’t appear to have his explosiveness.
Merrett 84, Mcrgrath 84 and Parish 77 all considerably higher minutes.

 

[Lore]

Interestingly Dylan Shiel only played 68mins of game time, I wonder if he he’s carrying an injury? Doesn’t appear to have his explosiveness.
Merrett 84, Mcrgrath 84 and Parish 77 all considerably higher minutes.

He played about 68% in the first quarter, which struck me as odd. 10 minutes out of 15, plus time on? It's possible that instead of managing him for a whole game they're just rotating him more heavily across this period..? But then he was suspended for a couple of games so he should be relatively fresh..

 

[faible]

Were we physically not capable of leading into space? Or were we physically capable but just couldn't be bothered? Or are we too dumb to know to run into space?

I'm going to go with one of the latter two; too lazy or too dumb. I really can't be sure which it is based on exposed form from our players.

He played about 68% in the first quarter, which struck me as odd. 10 minutes out of 15, plus time on? It's possible that instead of managing him for a whole game they're just rotating him more heavily across this period..? But then he was suspended for a couple of games so he should be relatively fresh..

Could just be load management, having a few weeks off a few weeks ago wouldn't really make him immune to fatigue playing a condensed block of games given he's usually playing a heavily contested role, and is the first player tagged.

 

[Big Bryza]

7 players with less than 20 games experience were out there today - I can't say I expected any different.
That being said, our inside 50 delivery is some of the most diabolical football I have ever seen

If you want to feel better about yourself then go watch a Collingwood game from the past 6 weeks.

 

[Mootsy]

look at the end of the day you can only do so much..

 

[Mercurial89]

He played about 68% in the first quarter, which struck me as odd. 10 minutes out of 15, plus time on? It's possible that instead of managing him for a whole game they're just rotating him more heavily across this period..? But then he was suspended for a couple of games so he should be relatively fresh..

By their metrics he is probably not recovering. He was flat as the other day in that interview and sounded sick leading into this block. If hes been sick and played 3 games in 11 days or whatever it was hes probably just been managed through it.
Not to pin it on him because the whole team has but he has not had a good year aside from 2-3 games where he was exactly what we brought him in for.

A loss will often make you question everything when its really as simple as injuries/pandemic/not being very good but you do wonder if everything is OK behind closed doors.

 

[resurrector]

We ain't playing finals this year so my only hope is that for the remainder of the year we regain a bit of attacking mojo and take the game on. Will probably get a few more lashings but who cares

 

[Dons4days]

We're all done.

Until next week.

They don’t deserve us.