Autopsy Rnd 19 2018 Swans dft by Bombers

[melbournehammer]

It was obvious after last week that the side was gone. We should never have brought reg back - he was so obviously done and the match committee called it right the first time.

Maibaum should have played. It’s time to test him at this level. We have nothing to lose and we are playing basically the 2017 neafl side.

Ramps has been destroyed by the rule change/ Clarkson interpretations - he can’t play on genuine forwards now.

Smith is still ok but in a side that needs to attack from the back he is a liability.

We have no half back line. Watching saad run and run and cut us up just showed how much we miss Shaw mattner tadgh- a position that we still haven’t replaced.

We have no midfield apart from Kennedy- he is carrying the midfield on his own and he is being absolutely sat on

Sinclair is doing his best but is a limited footballer.

Mccartin- wow he kicks into the forward line lick a great winger- but that says how shocking our midfield is.

The overuse by hand is a product of nothing forward of the call to kick it to - the holding the balls are because our players just have to take on the man - there is nowhere for the get out kick.

Overall we are playing our 2020 team currently- our expectations should be at that level.

 

[Superstar swan]

We need to be aggressive with trades this season...something has to be done

 

[LukeParkerno1]

There is one positive

If we miss the 8...easier draw!

Will be handy in 2019

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Really beginning to sense it's the end of a very long era as a staple finals team. Whether or not that means Longmire continues on, I don't know. Lot of players who have been servicable for so long are cooked and need replacing and some of the younger players don't look up to it. Rough few years coming up in my opinion

Yep thats about it in a nutshell im on the fence about Longmire i dont think any other coach would do better with the cattle we have on the ground at the moment.

Whatever the club wants to do regarding Longmire im okay with it.

 

[Superstar swan]

Can we miss the 8,get a top 10 pick and take blakey?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We need to be aggressive with trades this season...something has to be done

I’d be happy to attack the draft, trades okay but they must not be limited players.

 

[Superstar swan]

Yep thats about it in a nutshell im on the fence about Longmire i dont think any other coach would do better with the cattle we have on the ground at the moment.

Whatever the club wants to do regarding Longmire im okay with it.

The players are giving no effort,no intensity, they want him gone

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Can we miss the 8,get a top 10 pick and take blakey?

That’s my hope. We need thy top 10 pick to be live.

 

[Johnboi]

Way too many passengers in the team at the moment, and as others have said, it comes down to lack of belief in the game plan. Teams know when we're bringing it back in after a behind that we'll 90% of the time be going left back flank. There is no variation on that and it's costing us badly. When we play run and gun, we seem so much more confident. It gives buddy time to either mark or bring it to ground for Ronke, Paps or one of the other small forwards.

The fish rots at the head and in this case, Longmire must be held accountable. We are destined to not win another game this season and that should be the death knell of his coaching tenure at the mighty Swans.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

Only by people who have no idea of the side we are putting out there.

Exactly jerking off about Hurley whilst playing on an obviously underdone Franklin. Either he is unfit or injured with age catching up to being managed through seasons. Why manage him to play an extra year or too. Get him fit and get the best of him before he's done.

 

[Jack2Jack]

I don't even care about winning/losing atm, I just want to see us start playing a semi-decent brand of football. This brand is so atrocious, so very few entertaining passages (and the few times we did it lo and behold, we scored too)

 

[Bloods_33]

Where is this club at.

Horse is cooked. It's been a good ride but I think it's time to part ways whilst he still has some credibility.

The game plan needs an overhaul. We play down the line BORING football. Its extremely predictable and just a yawn to watch.

It's a train wreck and I hope the media start to give him some heat.

Bombers are a pretty rubbish side but move the ball so much better than we do.

Aliir was our best tonight.

Ronke and Buddy tried hard and Heeney was OK.

We clearly play players unfit.

The season is just about over and

Horses reign has hopefully come to an end.

I used to get pumped up about our games and now it's turning into a frustrating and predicable experience.

It's like watching Groundhog Day every week.

The result here is irrelevant. We are making up the numbers

Totally agree, it's a battle to get through games


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[Wolftone]

We are too slow. Dunno how to use corridor. We don’t try to do it till we down big time and have no clue.

No that isn't right. The players know how to use the corridor but Horse's game plan, the one that is so predictable even the commentators know it, is to kick down the line. We change the line but always go down the line. He is finished.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

There is one positive

If we miss the 8...easier draw!

Will be handy in 2019

We will always play GWS twice no matter what and that is looking like a scary proposition in the years ahead.

 

[kickthething]

icI’ll keep it to one post for you Troystenvic

- blaming lack of talent is a cop out, we just lost to a rubbish side of campaigners
- horse is done - lost the players, I wouldn’t sack him, but I’d ask him to resign end of year
- playing unfit players does
- 2018 is done- so rest bud etc
- dawson stays
- like mccartin
- everyone will be critical of jones - yep brain fades, but both overblown imo and he is a key player. At least he cares
- Aliir is awesome
- unfit buddy is still a good player- but don’t ruin him for the future


- losing sucks but especially to such a shit scum side who I just don’t respect, not even in the 8 but even their players act like they won the flag

Their fans **** me moronic at the ground. Umpired the game, still think they got a raw deal. Doubled our frees


We can’t be good every year, it’s not losing that annoys me as much as the way we are losing, wasting talent, playing scared, going backwards. Not going anywhere

But it’s just footy, sun comes up tomorrow, so don’t let it get you down , love the club but things need to change, no one is enjoying that



I respect diverse opinions, but defending horse now, it’s just blind loyalty wake up

Yep....the way we are losing, we are losing without trying to win. Out first thought seems to be don’t stuff it up. It’s a bit like giving a kid a glass of milk and saying don’t spill it. We are so scared of moving the ball. Fast ball movement kills us, kills us when others can do it, and the bombers have a reasonably average list so it clearly does not take much skill. Ffs, when you make a player like Bagley look like a world beater you are way off the pace.

Players look confused and do not look like they enjoy what’s going on, but even worse do not appear to have the will to change it. We are a young side and the second half fade outs reflect that, a 28-14 free kick count though...its hard to overcome all that and succeed when you are too scared to take the game on.

I hope we can blood some more before the end of the year, but more than that I hope we can go down trying to win games by kicking a score. Getting beat by two sides off the pace are big warning signs for us. I hope we at least can see some signs of change before the year ends. A couple of lean years appear to heading our way.

 

[mikey_san]

Terry Wallace?

LOL - post of the day for sure.

 

[Superstar swan]

Who would have thought at the start of the year that aliir would have been our best player 4 weeks running

 

[CheapCharlie]

We are a horrible side to watch when Longmire uses the tactics we did today.
We have a heap of talent... being wasted with this style of inflexible play we have

 

[Bloods_33]

What happened after the north game? I really thought that would be a good springboard towards the finals


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[Superstar swan]

Cant see how we win another game this year

 

[MarkP]

So in the end dropping Grundy was the right call.

I don't agree.

Horse has destroyed him now. He knows he is gone. What is there to play for?

Horrible player management

 

[melbournehammer]

The players are giving no effort,no intensity, they want him gone

That is just not true. They gave more effort than 2014 gf. They just aren’t good enough yet - and that has been obvious all season. The inside 50 counts have shown a side struggling to move the ball forwards.

We have a side with lots of inexperience and little top end talent.

The endless carry on here would suggest that we have a team replete with draft picks 1-5 each of whom has 100 games experience. We just don’t. We’ve got lots of middle talent - but nothing around them at the moment. It’s going. To be a process.

 

[Kapanis]

Dawson, I can't copy his heat map from afl stats, it says it all.

 

[melbournehammer]

I don't agree.

Horse has destroyed him now. He knows he is gone. What is there to play for?

Horrible player management

He’s been poor for weeks. It’s been masked by his marking in contests but every other situation has had him struggling to pick the ball up, getting dropped on leads and putting team mates under pressure.

 

[mikey_san]

Also I hate to say "I told you so" (well sort of) but I have been saying the Swans needed to draft big bodied inside midfielders for about 2 years now. The inside 50 count shows just how bad our midfield is, and how it is not winning its own ball.

We have Parker and Kennedy. What we lacked again today is hardness AND elusiveness in the middle. All our mids are one pace types with the exception of Jones.

I really hope they blow it up and trade Buddy and Lloyd to GC for their highest pick. They need a forward and drawcard. We need a hard, classy mid with kicking skills. They only come at the top of the draft 90% of the time.