Preview Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM Team Post #241

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vs North Melbourne
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Form:
Carlton LWLLW
North Melbourne - WLLWW


There is a similar feeling to the last time these teams met. From memory, we were coming off a win and in a good position. North Melbourne were somewhat struggling, and North Melbourne prevailed in a Lindsay Thomas 7 goal inspired 'shinboner' like performance on the eve of a historic date (someone please enlighten me on what it was so i can edit this post) 97 to 68.

However, some things have changed. The confident Lindsay Thomas is a shell of his former self, and is currently out of the side. Despite this, North Melbourne are playing an exciting brand of football, with a dynamic midfield including the likes of Andrew Swallow, Danie Well, Jack Ziebell, Ryan Bastinac and the ever reliable Brent Harvey. These exciting midfielders are complemented by the outstanding young ruckman Todd Goldstein.

However, Carlton are on the back of an exciting 74 point shellacking over arch rivals Essendon, withthe likes of Eddie Betts kicking 8 goals, superstars such as Chris Judd and Marc Murphy running rampant, whilst the ever reliable Heath Scotland and Kade Simpson are at their consistent best.


Key Match Ups

Robert Warnock vs. Todd Goldstein

The last few weeks, Robert Warnock has been outstanding in the ruck, giving Carlton a clear advantage with first hand out of the middle, against smaller ruckman in Hille and Jolly. However, Todd Goldstein is primed to be one of the premier rucks in the competition, and I fear that Carlton's midfield will have to work harder to get the ball out of the middle. Robbie (and Kreuzer) must quell Goldstein's influence.

Levi Greenwood vs Chris Judd

If my memory serves correct, Levi did a fantastic job on Juddy last time round. And with the birth of baby juddy on the way, it would only be human for Juddy's mind to wander somewhat. However, Chris must focus or he will be targeted. Additionally, the rest of our midfield must do what they have done all season, and constantly block so Chris can be at his explosive best

Marc Murphy vs Andrew Swallow

You beauty! What a match up this is destined to be. Two similar players in stellar form, hopefully going head to head. The winner of this could determine the rest of the game. Am backing Murphy to slightly win this.

Andrew Carrazzo/David Ellard vs. Brent Harvey

Andy would be primed to go to the ever reliable Brent Harvey. However, if still injured, Ellard might be 2nd best bet. IMO, the best way to hurt Harvey is (whilst still being accountable) kick goals on the rebound. Both Ellard and Carrazzo love kicking a goal, but they must be weary because Harvey is the heart and soul of that club. He fires and so do they.

Armfield vs Wells

Armfield was fantastic on saturday. His explosive pace complemented his hard work in the middle. However, to go to Wells, i'd expect a more defensive game. He is probably best suited, however might be overwhelmed by the class and newly discovered hard running of Wells. Must stay accountable.

Eddie Betts vs Brady Rawlings

MCG eddie betts is different to Etihad Eddie Betts. And no disrespect to Henry Slattery, but Brady Rawlings is streets ahead as a defender. Hopefully Eddie can capture his form from last week, however I won't be surprised if he is quiet.

Robbie Tarrant vs Matty Kreuzer

should be an exciting duel this week ). Hopefully Matty can utilize his size to be a handful. Must not get under the ball! Tarrant is an exciting talent as a FB. Should be an interesting dual, and Kreuzer is usually the more inexperienced in head to head match ups. Some of the contests on Saturday night that Kreuzer was involved in really inspired confidence. Hopefully John Barker is having a major influence in his positioning.

Nick Duigan vs. Cameron Pederson

We have recently been severely undermanned in defence. However Duigan has been borderline heroic in playing on taller defenders, and prevented numerous goals by disciplined spoiling and a ferocious attack on the ball. However, will have his hands full on the Talented Pederson. Who (with Edwards) plays an admirable job as a forward decoy, and must not be underestimated in packs. From what I have seen, loves a pack mark

Ryan Bastinac vs Mitch Robinson

This too should be a beauty. Whilst Robinson may have that harder edge (and is our 'heart and soul - meat and potatoes) player, Bastinac is a beautifully skilled handballer (in case you don't believe me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWz72--wV8) and is very influential in the middle.

Chris Yarran vs. Matty Campbell (?)

Should be an exciting dual. I'd imagine Campbell will play a defensive role. Don't know much about him as a small forward, however i can't really think of anyone else who will play that role for NM

Michael Firrito vs Andrew Walker

Big match up!. Walker has been outstanding this weekend, and makes the most of his opportunity. However, the biggest test for him is to overcome the spotlight of 'that mark'. I'd imagine he is too professional to succumb to media pressure. Well I hope so anyways. Firrito is a very solid defender, and this should be a good contest. Walker is always good for 2/3 of goal each game though. Probably not a likely type to tear a game apart (ala Eddie Betts), more so a consistent performer

Scott McMahon vs. Jeffrey Garlett

Jeffrey has had the yips the last few weeks, and each week we say he is due. He has by no means been ordinary. In fact (big call), i'd rate him the most consistent performer of small forwards in the AFL. However, he is the most likely to damage opposition on the scoreboard. Haven't really taken notice of McMahon, so can't really talk about his defensive attributes. However, hopefully Garlett can utilize whatever space he is given, and hit the scoreboard hard!

Jeremy Laidler vs. Aaron Edwards

From what i have seen, Edwards seems to be somewhat hit and miss. Either plays really well, or doesn't hit the scoreboard. Whilst Edwards has Laidler in the air, and possibly on the lead. Laidler (as usual) will be instructed to run/zone off him at every opportunity. However, like pederson, Edwards should not be underestimated. Seems to be a very good kick, and can be damaging. Would feel more comfortable with Jamison vs. Petrie, White vs. Pederson and Duigan vs Edwards, but Carlton have to make the best of their situation. And Laidler is more than capable of playing good, accountable footy.
And Most importantly!

Lachie Henderson vs. Drew Petrie -
Will determine the game. Petrie is in super, super form. Henderson must suppress Petrie's influence or else this match might get away from us. Henderson must stay strong in packs, and must be agile on a lead. Because Petrie will exploit his rawness in defence in those two aspects

Changes

In: Setanta O'Hailpin
(Whilst our forwardline worked really well on Saturday, Eddie Betts won't kick 8 every week.Still need a tall forward) Andrew Carrazzo (best 22) Jordan Russell (best 22)

Out: Marcus Davies (Not best 22, should make way) Wayde Twomey (should make way as not best 22) Bret Thornton (With Russell and O'hailpin's possible return. His role might be replaced. Unlucky)

Result

Danger game! This match and next weeks match are absolutely must wins to entrench a spot in the 4 (especially with St Kilda bye Hawthorn to come). Hopefully the 'Etihad factor' or the "Media focus resulting in inflated ego' doesn't influence Carlton's performance. In reality,it depends on which Carlton turns up. However, Carlton will hopefully be too strong in the middle.

Carlton by 20
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

by all reports none from the ants impressed so it comes down to injuries
Ellard will be fresh after a rest day as sub so will start
Army did plenty and will stay in
MC did well v Ess
JR Jamo Waite Bower Carrots would all be handy but may not be required
 

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Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Haven't watched the Essendon game yet...but did Davies do anything to suggest that he will be kept in the side?? I hope we have a tall come in for him...we will need one against the Roo's....I think we should bring in Irish to play on Petrie..because otherwise we have no one that can go with him and he will kick a bag against us.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Huge game this week.
The is like a final for north. Its their biggest home game of the season. Friday night football, packed Etihad stadium, playing against a top 4 team.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Danger game...Hope the boys remember last year.

Out: Tuohy(inj), Davies, maybe Twomey
In: Waite/O'hAilpin, Russell, maybe Carrazzo

The Petrie matchup is huge too.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Huge game this week.
The is like a final for north. Its their biggest home game of the season. Friday night football, packed Etihad stadium, playing against a top 4 team.
Back playing at Etihad.:thumbsdown:
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Danger game...Hope the boys remember last year.

Out: Tuohy(inj), Davies, maybe Twomey
In: Waite/O'hAilpin, Russell, maybe Carrazzo
looks about right
Davies was a bit of a surprise call up Damo and he did not do much wrong but not a whole lot right either
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

our mid field went a bit missing in the 2nd qtr and that was really when our backs were put under pressure. Cannot afford to let this happen versus better teams. That will help ease the burden on the small backs
 

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Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

It's a huge game for us for a few reasons:

- Home game vs a big Vic club
- Our only Friday night fixture
- The criticism we've received for getting crushed by top 4 sides
- A win would make us a favourite for a top 8 spot

As for the key battles, we will struggle with the pace of Yarran, Betts and Garlett. Whilst I expect your defence to be seriously tested by the big bodies of Petrie and Pedersen. Petrie will need to kick straight for us to be a chance. McIntosh will also be ready to go if we decide to give him a game. That could seriously stretch you guys, but at the same time leave us vulnerable to the rebound from Russell, Gibbs, Yarran, Scotland etc.

Looking forward to it.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Laidler to Edwards?
Thornton to Pederson *shudder*
Hendo vs. Petrie *shudder*
Yaz to Campbell
Army to Wells
If Carrazzo is in, send him to Harvey.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Curnow and Davies would be the two to make way from that side, just weren't good enough last night.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

North usually play well against us, but I'll back our boys to get a comfortable win by about 5 goals.

Petrie is gonna be a very tough match up for us.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

O'hAilpin doesn't deserve a call-up after yesterday.

He had absolutely no desire. 2 goals 4 behinds really flattered him. He refused to attack a man or ball that wasn't within ten metres.

Lack of match fitness is really obvious. If anyone were to come it, I'd like to see Casboult plonked in the goal square and told to stick his dukes up.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Nice preview mate. The only thing I would point out is Firrito would be about 4th in line for the job on Kreuz. My guess is Hansen, but it could easily be Tarrant.

Thompson/Firrito will go to Walker, I suspect.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Nice preview mate. The only thing I would point out is Firrito would be about 4th in line for the job on Kreuz. My guess is Hansen, but it could easily be Tarrant.

Thompson/Firrito will go to Walker, I suspect.

Fair point, will edit a few of the match-ups. Also, do you remember why the last NM Carlton game was significant?
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

I liked Davies game last night. He make an error or two here or there but he has some grunt about him that I think our backline can lack at times. Wouldn't mind seeing him stay in.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Danger game...Hope the boys remember last year.


The Petrie matchup is huge too.

Exactly my thoughts to. :thumbsu:

Can't afford to be complacent and Petrie needs to be reined in as he is in super form and it will be interesting to see who we match up on him as he is the one player that could really hurt us with our injuries and lack of height down back right now.

Carlton Blues
vs North Melbourne



Form: Carlton LWLLW
North Melbourne - WLLWW


There is a similar feeling to the last time these teams met. From memory, we were coming off a win and in a good position. North Melbourne were somewhat struggling, and North Melbourne prevailed in a Lindsay Thomas 7 goal inspired 'shinboner' like performance on the eve of a historic date (someone please enlighten me on what it was so i can edit this post) 97 to 68.

However, some things have changed. The confident Lindsay Thomas is a shell of his former self, and is currently out of the side. Despite this, North Melbourne are playing an exciting brand of football, with a dynamic midfield including the likes of Andrew Swallow, Danie Well, Jack Ziebell, Ryan Bastinac and the ever reliable Brent Harvey. These exciting midfielders are complemented by the outstanding young ruckman Todd Goldstein.

However, Carlton are on the back of an exciting 74 point shellacking over arch rivals Essendon, withthe likes of Eddie Betts kicking 8 goals, superstars such as Chris Judd and Marc Murphy running rampant, whilst the ever reliable Heath Scotland and Kade Simpson are at their consistent best.

Key Match Ups

Robert Warnock vs. Todd Goldstein

The last few weeks, Robert Warnock has been outstanding in the ruck, giving Carlton a clear advantage with first hand out of the middle, against smaller ruckman in Hille and Jolly. However, Todd Goldstein is primed to be one of the premier rucks in the competition, and I fear that Carlton's midfield will have to work harder to get the ball out of the middle. Robbie (and Kreuzer) must quell Goldstein's influence.

Levi Greenwood vs Chris Judd

If my memory serves correct, Levi did a fantastic job on Juddy last time round. And with the birth of baby juddy on the way, it would only be human for Juddy's mind to wander somewhat. However, Chris must focus or he will be targeted. Additionally, the rest of our midfield must do what they have done all season, and constantly block so Chris can be at his explosive best

Marc Murphy vs Andrew Swallow

You beauty! What a match up this is destined to be. Two similar players in stellar form, hopefully going head to head. The winner of this could determine the rest of the game. Am backing Murphy to slightly win this.

Andrew Carrazzo/David Ellard vs. Brent Harvey

Andy would be primed to go to the ever reliable Brent Harvey. However, if still injured, Ellard might be 2nd best bet. IMO, the best way to hurt Harvey is (whilst still being accountable) kick goals on the rebound. Both Ellard and Carrazzo love kicking a goal, but they must be weary because Harvey is the heart and soul of that club. He fires and so do they.

Armfield vs Wells

Armfield was fantastic on saturday. His explosive pace complemented his hard work in the middle. However, to go to Wells, i'd expect a more defensive game. He is probably best suited, however might be overwhelmed by the class and newly discovered hard running of Wells. Must stay accountable.

Eddie Betts vs Brady Rawlings

MCG eddie betts is different to Etihad Eddie Betts. And no disrespect to Henry Slattery, but Brady Rawlings is streets ahead as a defender. Hopefully Eddie can capture his form from last week, however I won't be surprised if he is quiet.

Robbie Tarrant vs Matty Kreuzer

should be an exciting duel this week ). Hopefully Matty can utilize his size to be a handful. Must not get under the ball! Tarrant is an exciting talent as a FB. Should be an interesting dual, and Kreuzer is usually the more inexperienced in head to head match ups. Some of the contests on Saturday night that Kreuzer was involved in really inspired confidence. Hopefully John Barker is having a major influence in his positioning.

Nick Duigan vs. Cameron Pederson

We have recently been severely undermanned in defence. However Duigan has been borderline heroic in playing on taller defenders, and prevented numerous goals by disciplined spoiling and a ferocious attack on the ball. However, will have his hands full on the Talented Pederson. Who (with Edwards) plays an admirable job as a forward decoy, and must not be underestimated in packs. From what I have seen, loves a pack mark

Ryan Bastinac vs Mitch Robinson

This too should be a beauty. Whilst Robinson may have that harder edge (and is our 'heart and soul - meat and potatoes) player, Bastinac is a beautifully skilled handballer (in case you don't believe me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWz72--wV8) and is very influential in the middle.

Chris Yarran vs. Matty Campbell (?)

Should be an exciting dual. I'd imagine Campbell will play a defensive role. Don't know much about him as a small forward, however i can't really think of anyone else who will play that role for NM

And Most importantly!

Lachie Henderson vs. Drew Petrie - Will determine the game. Petrie is in super, super form. Henderson must suppress Petrie's influence or else this match might get away from us. Henderson must stay strong in packs, and must be agile on a lead. Because Petrie will exploit his rawness in defence in those two aspects

Changes

In: Setanta O'Hailpin (Whilst our forwardline worked really well on Saturday, Eddie Betts won't kick 8 every week.Still need a tall forward) Andrew Carrazzo (best 22) Jordan Russell (best 22)

Out: Marcus Davies (Not best 22, should make way) Wayde Twomey (should make way as not best 22) Bret Thornton (With Russell and O'hailpin's possible return. His role might be replaced. Unlucky)

Result

Depends which Carlton turns up. However, Carlton will hopefully be too strong in the middle. Carlton by 20


However, times have changed.

Great preview. :thumbsu::thumbsu:
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

I liked Davies game last night. He make an error or two here or there but he has some grunt about him that I think our backline can lack at times. Wouldn't mind seeing him stay in.

Agree. He laid 7 tackles (second most to Judd + Howlett who had 12 each) and showed some intensity. When he caused a turnover then stayed in the play, had a smother and tried to win the ball back, that's the type of grunt we need. Would hate to see him get dropped.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

We need to inhibit Judd and Murphy, negate Kruezer and quell the influence of Betts and Garlett.

Thoughts

- We have a good record at inhibiting Judd. He's only polled Brownlow votes twice in his career against North and both times were in the year he won the medal.

- Murphy has caused us problems. IMO, he's problem number one.

- Kruezer should at least be held accountable by Hansen when he is resting up forward. Goldstein will keep him honest in the ruck.

- Rawlings should be able to inhibit either Garlett or Betts. The other one will cause problems. IMO, this is problem number two.
 
Re: Rnd 19 - Carlton v North Melb @Etihad Friday 29th July 7:40PM

Walker may just be your biggest problem.

A running cliche, but it all starts in the centre.
We see what damage Warnock can do when he gets a bit of a run on, but I imagine Goldstein will be a little tougher than the Essendon boys were last night.

Carlton played two games last night and it was clear which one we'll try to bring to the table on Friday.

Do the North boys hate Etihad as much as we do?

We play our best footy at Etihad. Having said that, we only have 1 game at the G this year.
 

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