Preview Round 13 2024 – Hawthorn vs GWS Giants, Saturday June 8, 1.45pm AEST, UTAS Stadium

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I well remember the trip I made to Launceston seven years ago, to watch us play Hawthorn at UTAS Stadium. It’s not a fond memory.

We were top-of-the-ladder going into that game, with the lowly Hawks languishing in thirteenth on a sub-90 percentage. Everyone had penciled in the four points.

Instead, the match turned into an unexpected struggle, and we were lucky to escape with a draw. It was a lesson in never under-estimating a lower-ranked opponent, particularly on their turf. Only four members of the team that day are still with us – Haynes, Perryman, Ward and Whitfield. Let’s hope they share their recollections of what went wrong.

Hawthorn goes into this game with another sub-90 percentage, but also winning four of their last five games. They led the Crows at every change this afternoon and are definitely no easy-beats.

Looking at the team changes, the return of Brown from suspension is the only bright spot. With Buckley, Perryman and Coniglio now added to the injury list, we need some really hungry and determined replacements. Here’s a possible line-up:

B – Aleer, Taylor, Idun
HB – Angwin, Himmelberg, Whitfield
C - Haynes, Wehr, Callaghan
HF - Daniels, Riccardi, Bedford
F - Hogan, Greene, Brown
FOL - Peatling, Briggs, Green

IC - XOH, Rowston, Ward, Cadman

SUB - Thomas

I’d prefer to start Angwin over Ward because he's much younger and should have more energy. Riccardi probably earns a start after his great effort against the Cats. Rowston has been consistent enough in the VFL to earn a recall.

We shook off the malaise of last month with the gritty win against Geelong, built on a return to hard-tackling and an outstanding performance by Briggs. I believe it was the first time this year we beat a higher-ranked opponent (although they’re struggling against Richmond as of writing – some perspective is needed).

At 7-4, we're reasonably well-placed, but need to go into this fully switched on, from the first bounce.

Thoughts?
 
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Definitely a danger game for us, the Hawks look to be in really good form. But despite our injuries we still have the personnel to win this.

B: Idun, Taylor, Buckley
HB: Angwin, Himmelberg, Whitfield
C: Haynes, Callaghan, Wehr
HF: Daniels, Riccardi, Bedford
F: Greene, Hogan, Brown
R: Briggs, Green, Peatling
IC: Ward, Cadman, XOH, Thomas
Sub: McMullin

I think this is the most likely list that we go with. We have all the pieces of the puzzle here, it's just a matter of arranging them in the right way. I'm not sure whether Angwin or Ward goes back to fill the hole left by Perryman. Either approach has it's downsides but I'm going with Angwin for now.

If Buckley is back from injury then I'd say he still gets his spot back from Aleer pretty comfortably, despite Aleer's heroics in the last match.
 
Definitely a danger game for us, the Hawks look to be in really good form. But despite our injuries we still have the personnel to win this.

B: Idun, Taylor, Buckley
HB: Angwin, Himmelberg, Whitfield
C: Haynes, Callaghan, Wehr
HF: Daniels, Riccardi, Bedford
F: Greene, Hogan, Brown
R: Briggs, Green, Peatling
IC: Ward, Cadman, XOH, Thomas
Sub: McMullin

I think this is the most likely list that we go with. We have all the pieces of the puzzle here, it's just a matter of arranging them in the right way. I'm not sure whether Angwin or Ward goes back to fill the hole left by Perryman. Either approach has it's downsides but I'm going with Angwin for now.

If Buckley is back from injury then I'd say he still gets his spot back from Aleer pretty comfortably, despite Aleer's heroics in the last match.
I reckon this is pretty close. Amazing that when Ash and Perryman went down
...we have on our list Fahey, Cumming, Kennedy, Leake to cover that position and they are all injured. I'm assuming Buckley is back so I'm going with

Idun Taylor Buckley
Whitfield Himmelberg Wehr

Ward Briggs Green
Callaghan Rowston Angwin

Greene Daniels Thomas
Hogan Riccardi Brown

Bench
Cadman Haynes Bedford Peatling
Sub XO

I've brought in Rowston for some more grunt in the midfield. I liked what he did last year and with Cogs and Kelly out I want more strength against a good contested team like the Hawks.
 
I certainly get sick of people saying we should win by some margin against lower ranked teams. Hawthorn are one of the most in form teams in the comp at the moment.
Our midfield will get pummelled if they are not 100%.
I can see Rowston possibly getting a game. Although Ward, Green, Peatling and Callaghan being the main three going through there. We do need more depth in there. With Brown back, maybe that allows Toby to go in there more often… it helped him get into the game last week when Cogs went out.
I thought there might be an outside chance of Kelly returning but I doubt it.
If Buckley’s back, do we push Haynes onto the wing again?
I’m not sold on Wehr. He makes a few too many errors atm. Might do things coaches like though.
 
A positive for us is that we have won our last 3 games against the Hawks. However, we have only played 2 games in UTAS vs Hawthorn in our history (the last being the drawn game of 2017), and are yet to win a game there against them - although we beat Sydney in UTAS in the memorable Elimination Final by 1 point in Covid impacted 2021 :)
 
Definitely a danger game. We don't have a great away record this year; and our long-term away record in Tasmania (noting where Norths and Hawks have been the last few years) is not inspiring. Add to this that Hawks are the third most "in form" team at the moment, and we have a massive injury toll. Really need the midfield brigade to lift this week, and Briggs to have a dominant game, to have a chance of winning.

With Perryman added to the absence of Ash, the balance of our backline is definitely at risk. Haynes may be shifted into Perryman's role, but he's not the best fit. Wehr possibly takes the Ash role, and Angwin stays on a wing. An alternative option would be to try Joe Fonti in one of the Pez/Ash roles, but I'm not sure he's ready, and the coaches may prefer to stick with known quantities anyway. Aleer will be unlucky, but if Buckley is OK to play he should come in, and balance-wise, Leek shouldn't fill a Pez/Ash role, especially with Haynes there as well (as we'd be far too tall). Another option would be to put Peatling down back, where he did play for a while, but personally I think he brings more value playing in the middle for us.

I agree that we need to put some more grunt into the midfield; so, I would like to see Rowston come in, even if Ward stays. I reckon Angwin holds his spot too.

Callum Brown should be an automatic in, and if the selection jigsaw needs to drop Bedford, I'm accepting of that given where his form has been. Maybe make him the sub, and see if he can have an impact by bringing energy in late. I'm not convinced Kingers will agree though!

So, possible lineup for me:

Idun Taylor Buckley
Whitfield Himmelberg Wehr
Callaghan Rowston Angwin
Daniels Riccardi Brown
Greene Hogan Thomas
Briggs Green Peatling
IC: Haynes XO Ward Cadman
Sub: Bedford
 
I wouldn’t be dropping Bedford. I don’t care if he’s not kicking many goals. His pressure is a barometer for us.
 
Definitely a danger game. We don't have a great away record this year; and our long-term away record in Tasmania (noting where Norths and Hawks have been the last few years) is not inspiring. Add to this that Hawks are the third most "in form" team at the moment, and we have a massive injury toll. Really need the midfield brigade to lift this week, and Briggs to have a dominant game, to have a chance of winning.

With Perryman added to the absence of Ash, the balance of our backline is definitely at risk. Haynes may be shifted into Perryman's role, but he's not the best fit. Wehr possibly takes the Ash role, and Angwin stays on a wing. An alternative option would be to try Joe Fonti in one of the Pez/Ash roles, but I'm not sure he's ready, and the coaches may prefer to stick with known quantities anyway. Aleer will be unlucky, but if Buckley is OK to play he should come in, and balance-wise, Leek shouldn't fill a Pez/Ash role, especially with Haynes there as well (as we'd be far too tall). Another option would be to put Peatling down back, where he did play for a while, but personally I think he brings more value playing in the middle for us.

I agree that we need to put some more grunt into the midfield; so, I would like to see Rowston come in, even if Ward stays. I reckon Angwin holds his spot too.

Callum Brown should be an automatic in, and if the selection jigsaw needs to drop Bedford, I'm accepting of that given where his form has been. Maybe make him the sub, and see if he can have an impact by bringing energy in late. I'm not convinced Kingers will agree though!

So, possible lineup for me:

Idun Taylor Buckley
Whitfield Himmelberg Wehr
Callaghan Rowston Angwin
Daniels Riccardi Brown
Greene Hogan Thomas
Briggs Green Peatling
IC: Haynes XO Ward Cadman
Sub: Bedford
Could Aleer replace Cadman. Play Himmelberg as the back up ruck, his other game time can be back or wing or forward, whatever suits him best.
 

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Hawks would be licking their lips here

A month ago this would have been a percentage booster for us.

Now, we are looking at an in form team at their second home against a very depleted giants set up
 
6 weeks ago, this was a game we would have thought was an easy win.

Not now. Hawks playing terrific football last few weeks.

I think we'll still get them. (although Im not exactly neutral on it)
 
Need to shut down their small forwards.

The backline should be able to handle the Hawthorn tall forwards, but it's the quick movement from midfield to about 20-30m out where their smalls could do the most damage.

Narrow Giants win filled with multiple heart palpitations.
 
Watched the hawks at MCG. They are flying. Their potent forward line has finally clicked.

I think we have a slightly better midfield.

Ginnivan played his best game this season, I watched almost all Hawks games, he will be the key linking their mid with the forward. Dylan Moore can sneak goals.

Danger game.
 
Hoga/cads/ricca/brown + Toby/bedford/daniels/XO/Thomas is a forward mix the puts the balance of the rest of the team out.

One of Thomas of Bedford needs to push back to sub for me.

We need a lockdown and/or running defender plus a midfielder. Is it someone else Hamilton/fonti/rowston. O
Any chance Hamilton comes back in to help in defence?
Had wondered if this was a possibility but he isn’t blessed with pace. Left field could be Fonti making an unexpected debut. Otherwise it’s Whitfield, Angwin or wehr and 5 Talls

Could they push Brown back (don’t like this) or ward down back but we need him in the midfield
 
Hoga/cads/ricca/brown + Toby/bedford/daniels/XO/Thomas is a forward mix the puts the balance of the rest of the team out.

One of Thomas of Bedford needs to push back to sub for me.

We need a lockdown and/or running defender plus a midfielder. Is it someone else Hamilton/fonti/rowston. O

Had wondered if this was a possibility but he isn’t blessed with pace. Left field could be Fonti making an unexpected debut. Otherwise it’s Whitfield, Angwin or wehr and 5 Talls

Could they push Brown back (don’t like this) or ward down back but we need him in the midfield
XO could go into the midfield rotation full time
 
Hoga/cads/ricca/brown + Toby/bedford/daniels/XO/Thomas is a forward mix the puts the balance of the rest of the team out.

One of Thomas of Bedford needs to push back to sub for me.

We need a lockdown and/or running defender plus a midfielder. Is it someone else Hamilton/fonti/rowston. O

Had wondered if this was a possibility but he isn’t blessed with pace. Left field could be Fonti making an unexpected debut. Otherwise it’s Whitfield, Angwin or wehr and 5 Talls

Could they push Brown back (don’t like this) or ward down back but we need him in the midfield
Hamilton is the best runner in the club
 
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