Unofficial Preview Round 14 vs. North Melbourne, Marvel, 1:00pm Sunday 16/06

[The Royal Sampler]

No change to the 22 for me.

If we want someone else as sub I am comfortable with that.

 

[Harry O]

Naicos will play and insist on it I reckon.

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Bloody hope so. The North midfield is young and talented and Crisp can’t beat them on his own

 

[Run n Spread]

Out Frampton Sullivan N daicos (rest) Bytel
In Jiath Dematia mcinnes Allen (sub)

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Out Frampton Sullivan N daicos (rest) Bytel
In Jiath Dematia Richards Allen (sub)

Richards is injured.

Harry's not ready, nor is Allan.

And why would you drop Sullivan & Frampton?

You want to play with no midfielders? Daicos & Sullivan out?

This is a piss take surely.

 

[ksardog]

out - Bytel
in - McInnes

 

[FatherTime]

Interesting. I thought he was okay today, may have missed a few things based on this?

I think you hit the nail on the head in the second half of your sentence.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

out - Bytel
in - McInnes

Possibly but Reef might be better off getting 100 minutes midfield game time in the vfl

Bytel in many respects is a good sub option.

 

[HotPiesWithSauce]

No changes, play nick with one leg if need be
Allan needs to stay in the VFL and be the main man in the midfield for a bit
Love Reef, but another week in the 2s wont hurt him either

 

[stormskye]

Out Frampton Sullivan N daicos (rest) Bytel
In Jiath Dematia Richards Allen (sub)

You realise we have the bye after the north game

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Yeah we’re not resting blokes after dropping 2 points to Fremantle and 4 to the Dogs. Got to make every post a winner in a season this tight.

 

[domus]

He had 7 kicks and 5 horrendous clangers. He was poor

Bobby Hill was poor too but nobody is suggesting he be dropped. There are certain players with a target on their back every week.

 

[Big Bryza]

Markov was great today…his energy should not be underrated

Disposal was poor but the rest of his game was very good. Our defence were immense.

 

[ksardog]

Possibly but Reef might be better off getting 100 minutes midfield game time in the vfl

Bytel in many respects is a good sub option.

mcInnes is a far better player , better off getting game time into him than Bytel

 

[Big Bryza]

What is this fixation with experimentation when every game is crucial, and no win guaranteed? North will not be easy beats. We will have to win the game and not just turn up!

When will people understand that the Noble package comes with turnovers and mistakes? If a player is going to have the role of being an aggressive, attacking defender with a license to run and rampage then mistakes will be made. You cannot have your cake and eat it. If you want a Mayne style defender who stops, props and chips twenty metres sideways and has a 100% effective disposal rate then you are living in the wrong era.

I thought Noble was sensational today. How anyone can bag that bloke is a mystery to me. He leaves his heart and soul out on that ground every week. How about focusing on the countless attacking moves he set up with his run and carry and gut busting fitness levels?

Sullivan needs a refresh? And who pray tell will step into the breech to replace him? He has been a very good support to Dacios and Crisp when he goes into the middle and rarely wastes a possession. He is going along very nicely.

Allan can have another go when he earns it by playing with a little more passion and grit. That is our DNA and the reason AJ is not a part of our team going forward. It seems having a red hot dip is a non-negotiable at Collingwood. Ed seems to be in cruise mode most of the time when I watch him.

Noble was great yesterday. 100% spot on about the attacking half back mindset, it's going to come with some horror turnovers at times, but you must simply take the good with the bad. People crack it when we move it slowly, yet get up in arms when we take it on and miss a target. You can't have it both ways. It's frustrating to watch when it happens live but you'd rather see players take the risk then play safe footy.

 

[Big Bryza]

I am a bit of a pessimist when it comes to each upcoming game but I think this will be a lot tougher than some on here are suggesting. North will be up and about after their win and have some talented players in their midfield and in their forward line.

They're a horrible team littered with some serious footballers. Larkey, Sheezel, Simpkin, LDU plus a couple more. It's their bottom 6-8 that are bog ordinary and we should have far too much class for them.

 

[Big Bryza]

No need to rest any players next week. That's what the bye the week after is for.

Keep the same team, don't take North too lightly, go hard for the win, and then put the feet up and reassess with whoever is available after the bye.

Fly said in his presser that we have no returnees for next week. So unless they bring Reef in or a TJ debut then we may very well be unchanged.

 

[Big Bryza]

Out Frampton Sullivan N daicos (rest) Bytel
In Jiath Dematia Richards Allen (sub)

Pardon

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Noble was great yesterday. 100% spot on about the attacking half back mindset, it's going to come with some horror turnovers at times, but you must simply take the good with the bad. People crack it when we move it slowly, yet get up in arms when we take it on and miss a target. You can't have it both ways. It's frustrating to watch when it happens live but you'd rather see players take the risk then play safe footy.

And Fly has repeatedly said he doesn't care about stats, he's even said we don't value kicking efficiency like other teams, he doesn't see it as a prerequisite to winning games.

 

[domus]

They're a horrible team littered with some serious footballers. Larkey, Sheezel, Simpkin, LDU plus a couple more. It's their bottom 6-8 that are bog ordinary and we should have far too much class for them.

We'll see. I hope we attack them with our usual intensity and passion.

 

[Run n Spread]

Pardon

If daicos is in any injury doubt no.point risking him. Frampton played as a foward and did bugger all. Leave Dean back for now. Sullivan battled a bit.
May as well use the North game to expose more of the fringe players.
Can always get other injuries in Sept so need a squad mentality.
Some of them may unseat the incumbents
Also form of Sidebottom and a couple of others an issue so need to.test out possible replacements

 

[Run n Spread]

And Fly has repeatedly said he doesn't care about stats, he's even said we don't value kicking efficiency like other teams, he doesn't see it as a prerequisite to winning games.

It's a catch 22. Kicking efficiency doesn't necessarily win you games but kicking inefficiency and costly turnovers can certainly lose them.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

It's a catch 22. Kicking efficiency doesn't necessarily win you games but kicking inefficiency and costly turnovers can certainly lose them.

You don't understand our game style then..

 

[Run n Spread]

Ever since the Giants game I've been saying we need to trial more of the squad.
Look at the form of Kreguer yesterday Richards debut Macrae Harrison etc
And we've gone 7 2 1 since the first 3 losses. Our depth is holding up.
Yet everyone here is convinced we need to rush back out of form veterans. Or risk injured players. We've done that and guess what they got injured again

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Out: Daicos (inj/managed/rested), Bytel (omit)
In: Reef, De Mattia

Reef as the sub due to his ability to play forward and mid

 

[Run n Spread]

You don't understand our game style then..

Understand it perfectly well. Was a general comment
Read the preview thread. I said we'd kill em across half back on turnover as they're delivery foward is shit and ripe for our turnover game.
Look who our best were and their positions.