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That 3rd quarter was bad, but we didn’t help ourselves by missing 2 sitters, which could have stemmed the tide. Both shots were gettable, one from Cameron and the other l can't recall, thinking maybe WHE?
Just watched the 3rd quarter and Cameron missed when we were 14 points up and Crisp missed when we were 9 points down and then they took it straight to the other end for Walker to kick a goal.
 

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AFL conceded that Dawson should have gotten a free kick in the dying seconds of the game...
Gee they’re quick to concede when the other team should have got a free kick,but they never seem to extend the courtesy to us when we miss out on a free kick.
 
For the same period they were both at the Pies 2013-2016 Witts had played 40 games and Grundy had played 62. Grundy was clearly the preferred option because as you stated they couldn't play in the same team. Grundy effectively an extra season on Witts. During that period Grundy was in front in all statisical categories.

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This is all getting pretty boring and repetitive.

Witts missed half of 2016 with the finger injury he suffered against the Swans in R1 (where he was the preferred ruckman ahead of Grundy) and the subsequent infection he suffered. He was never able to usurp Grundy after that and there in lays the difference. Grundy 21 games in 2016, Witts 2. After both debuting in 2013, in that 2013-2015 period it was Grundy 41 v Witts 38. Who knows how things would have played out if Witts hadn't hurt his finger in 2016.
 
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This is all getting pretty boring and repetitive.

Witts missed half of 2016 with the finger injury he suffered against the Swans in R1 (where he was the preferred ruckman ahead of Grundy) and the subsequent infection he suffered. He was never able to usurp Grundy after that and there in lays the difference. Grundy 21 games in 2016, Witts 2. After both debuting in 2013, in that 2013-2015 period it was Grundy 41 v Witts 38. Who knows how things would have played out if Witts hadn't hurt his finger in 2016.
Grundy was and is still a significantly better player.
 


Umps only help the pies… apparently.

You can find several missed frees both ways. Nearly always the case in these sort of games.
I can understand why the Crows fans are salty about it, I’m sure we would be too…but that’s the way the cookie crumbles
 

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Kudos to the Crows youngsters and their awesome captain, Tex was great too. Nick's seems a great coach and a good guy as well.

But geez, has there ever been a bigger bunch of sooks after a game?

Apparently Dawson had his head taken off, was the most obvious decision of all time. Yet all commentators missed it too. So they miss a tight one and then send in "please explain" for that decision. How many of those kinds of decisions do umpires get wrong? Are they sending it because of the decision or because the stage of the game? What kind of justification do they get from the AFL admitting a mistake?

Then there was Daicos ridiculously convincing the umpires to make a technically correct decision when we had the ball 40m out anyway. This was shocking, cheating. Um. Mihocek is prob a 60-70% chance to kick it anyway.

And then the goal review. I mean you have to be just completely biased to say that was a goal. And you have to be certain. It was clearly inconclusive. People will have their hunches, but it's not conclusive.

Take a sojourn over to the saltiest, most pathetic board you will ever see and read the Crows fans on the game. I thought there would be a lot of pumped up fans at their young sides effort. Nope, they were robbed. Every post complaining about the umpiring. And here is the final kicker. It's Vic bias and cheating...coming from the team we beat despite the huge umpiring errors (one that would have been a gimme foal in the goal square).

Fair dinkum, you get the sense some would prefer to complain and lose than win. And you wonder why the Crows have been such a loser club for so long. Start with their loser supporters.
 
The Tom Mitchell 50 was soft.
The Rankine goal line decision tight as.
Dawson was bleeding from the contact to the face, there are four umps to hopefully avoid situations where they are unsighted, yet they missed it.
We got the rub of the green (no conspiracies, just worked out that way), why shouldn't they be able to highlight a decision that was objectively wrong that would have given one of the better clutch kicks going around a chance at a win in a game they did a bloody good job to play their way back into?
Got no dramas with it, personally.
 
In Adelaide they had one of the most one sided umpiring ever seen and we were still good enough to win. In Melbourne we had the better go from the umps and they were just not up to winning. Dont think they can blame the umps from going from a 13 point lead to a 7 point deficit but it was the umps that kept them in the game by not paying that throw which led to the Walter goal with 3 minutes left
 
The Tom Mitchell 50 was soft.
The Rankine goal line decision tight as.
Dawson was bleeding from the contact to the face, there are four umps to hopefully avoid situations where they are unsighted, yet they missed it.
We got the rub of the green (no conspiracies, just worked out that way), why shouldn't they be able to highlight a decision that was objectively wrong that would have given one of the better clutch kicks going around a chance at a win in a game they did a bloody good job to play their way back into?
Got no dramas with it, personally.

Because you're focusing on things you can't change. It's done. Control what you can control.
 
Kudos to the Crows youngsters and their awesome captain, Tex was great too. Nick's seems a great coach and a good guy as well.

But geez, has there ever been a bigger bunch of sooks after a game?

Apparently Dawson had his head taken off, was the most obvious decision of all time. Yet all commentators missed it too. So they miss a tight one and then send in "please explain" for that decision. How many of those kinds of decisions do umpires get wrong? Are they sending it because of the decision or because the stage of the game? What kind of justification do they get from the AFL admitting a mistake?

Then there was Daicos ridiculously convincing the umpires to make a technically correct decision when we had the ball 40m out anyway. This was shocking, cheating. Um. Mihocek is prob a 60-70% chance to kick it anyway.

And then the goal review. I mean you have to be just completely biased to say that was a goal. And you have to be certain. It was clearly inconclusive. People will have their hunches, but it's not conclusive.

Take a sojourn over to the saltiest, most pathetic board you will ever see and read the Crows fans on the game. I thought there would be a lot of pumped up fans at their young sides effort. Nope, they were robbed. Every post complaining about the umpiring. And here is the final kicker. It's Vic bias and cheating...coming from the team we beat despite the huge umpiring errors (one that would have been a gimme foal in the goal square).

Fair dinkum, you get the sense some would prefer to complain and lose than win. And you wonder why the Crows have been such a loser club for so long. Start with their loser supporters.
If the opposite happened to us plenty on this board would be complaining. They’re behaviour isn’t anything out of the ordinary.
 
Because you're focusing on things you can't change. It's done. Control what you can control.
To be pissed off about a clearly incorrect call and umpiring on the day which tilted in our favour has nothing to with with 'controlling the controllables', it's just about wanting acknowledgement that the screw-up was indeed a screw-up. Understand their want to at least have that level of 'gratification'.
It's not distracting anyone from anything, unless the players and coaching staff are dwelling on it, for which there's no evidence, is there?
Don't see why it's our right as a supporter base to tell Adelaide what is / isn't 'valid', just don't understand the need to.
But all good, I rarely post on the club board these days and will in all likelihood be out of step with the majority on this.
 

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