Review Round 19, 2016 - Brisbane Lions vs Port Adelaide

[BRAB]

MRP results are out Walker and NRobbo fined for wrestling and striking:

Josh Walker, Brisbane Lions, has been charged with wrestling Jackson Trengove, Port Adelaide, during the second quarter of the Round 19 match between the Brisbane Lions and Port Adelaide, played at the Gabba on Saturday July 30, 2016.

In summary, his $1500 sanction can be reduced to a $1000 sanction with an early guilty plea.

A first offence for wrestling was classified as a $1500 sanction. The player has no applicable record which impacts the penalty. An early plea enables the player to accept a $1000 sanction.

Nick Robertson, Brisbane Lions, has been charged with striking Travis Boak, Port Adelaide, during the fourth quarter of the Round 19 match between the Brisbane Lions and Port Adelaide, played at the Gabba on Saturday July 30, 2016.

In summary, he can accept a $1000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the Port Adelaide

Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct with low impact to the body. The incident was classified as a $1500 sanction. The player has no applicable record which impacts the penalty. An early plea enables the player to accept a $1000 sanction.

And Matho:
Contact between the Brisbane Lions' Rhys Mathieson and Port Adelaide's Chad Wingard from the third quarter of Saturday's match was assessed. Port Adelaide's Jared Polec kicks to Wingard, who marks the ball. Mathieson arrives at the contest as the mark is being taken and makes strong body contact to the back of his opponent. A 50-metre penalty was paid at the time against the Brisbane player. It was the view of the panel the 50-metre penalty appropriately dealt with the matter on field at the time and no further action was required.

So no death penalty for matho?

 

[Scubaveg]

Can we get a "drop the ball as soon as contact is initiated" coach?

We should start with a catch the ball coach

 

[James North]

Can we get a "drop the ball as soon as contact is initiated" coach?

I can't believe the rate at which other teams do this and we don't.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I can't believe the rate at which other teams do this and we don't.

When we do it we don't get away with it.

 

[alscotoz2]

have loved rogs passion for the club but i wouldn't be opposed to putting his AFL career in cotton wool permanently, sorry rog.

trial as a key back for the rest of the year? michael close. with schache, hipwood, walker, and ballenden in the 2017 draft i don't think there will be room for close in a year or 2, he needs to find a spot quick smart.

Should the cotton wool be soaked in chloroform just in case?

JOKE...clarification for all the hand wringers out there!

 

[Hollow Knight]

Should the cotton wool be soaked in chloroform just in case?

You can't be serious...

 

[PertRoosOsborne]

Probably already been said but Port had a huge physical advantage over us, we were continually pushed off the ball with ease.

We need the young lads to hit the weights hard in the off season.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Probably already been said but Port had a huge physical advantage over us, we were continually pushed off the ball with ease.

We need the young lads to hit the weights hard in the off season.

And we're trading 3 to 4 seniors and replacing them with draft picks apparently

 

[alscotoz2]

You can't be serious...

I was going to say, 'Stop calling me Shirley'...no idea why.

 

[SRH17]

Danny Daly giving the coach's review on the weekend "We had 35 missed tackles, which is a really poor effort. It's something we are going to focus on til the end of the season - well we have been focusing on it all year".
I call bulldust on that, if you have been focusing on it all year and thats the best we can do, then its time to give someone else a crack at it. We are mediocre when it comes to this and to me this is a good barometer of effort. You might not be able to get the footy, but the one thing you can do is when they have it is to tackle and bring some hurt. Witch's hats could put on a better tackling effort than us.

 

[jjami15]

Tackling is mindset so it says it all really

 

[winged1]

Tackling is mindset/ desire but it is also technique and how to move your weight, getting wrist control etc. But if they dont have the appetite to tackle, wont happen.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

Tackling is mindset/ desire but it is also technique and how to move your weight, getting wrist control etc. But if they dont have the appetite to tackle, wont happen.

Our technique is under 8's rugby league level.
Stick the arm out and no movement of the body.
What I learnt playing league as an outside center , was if there was a player coming across you what you do is while moving forward, take a step outside of them and that actually shows them which way to go , they only have one way to go, inside, then you f...g hit them . sorry just reminiscing.
You see a similar circumstance in aust. rules where a player will step our boys, and all our boys can do is stick an arm out, too easy to break.
so it's good body position so you can get your weight behind the tackle and use your shoulder and then you wrap your arms around. Not just sticking an arm out.
I shake my head every week , it is so simple to learn , but it looks like these simple techniques aren't taught.

in the coaches review it was said , young players will get better in tackling with size, yeah , no shit this has a minor part to do with it, but I think it is more technique and as a short ass and 63kg squirt( when I was 18) I could tackle bigger bodies because of a correct technique, to me its another bullshit excuse . It is as though the coaches have no clue either with a better method, no wonder we are not making progress.

 

[winged1]

The issue with that is in league you know where they are going and they only pass the ball backwards, AFL it is harder to stick the tackle because players can run in all different directions and the ball movement is 360 degrees and quicker. I coach jnrs and we are generally small sides, some of the smallest kids are the best tacklers and it is because they have a go, will get up and chase if they do miss one and it is about hitting body on body and getting control of an arm or wrist. Also F=MA.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

The issue with that is in league you know where they are going and they only pass the ball backwards, AFL it is harder to stick the tackle because players can run in all different directions and the ball movement is 360 degrees and quicker. I coach jnrs and we are generally small sides, some of the smallest kids are the best tacklers and it is because they have a go, will get up and chase if they do miss one and it is about hitting body on body and getting control of an arm or wrist. Also F=MA.

Granted league players usually run forward but you still get players running around you and stepping either side of you .The point I was making was you can make the first move by taking a step to one side to lessen the possibility of the player getting past you on that side.
Similar in Soccer when as a defender they step to one side so they can position a tackle with their preferred leg .
The body on body is what I was getting at as well, and I like your insight to your coaching in getting control of one arm or a wrist ,only problem in that tactic is the umpire has to call improper disposal if they get a one arm pass off.

 

[M Malice]

The body on body is what I was getting at as well, and I like your insight to your coaching in getting control of one arm or a wrist, only problem in that tactic is the umpire has to call improper disposal if they get a one arm pass off.

i would have thought that was a good position to be in for the tackler. a lot easier for the umpire to spot an incorrect disposal with a one arm throw than the ones they continually let go now when the tackled player just drops the ball on purpose. the hawks and swans are brilliant at this, the hawks are also the best at this grab one arm chicken wing style tackle particularly cyril.

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I just read the AFL team of the week and NOT ONE PORT PLAYER got in it. That shows how low we have dropped. Imagine if Port had played well. How much might we have lost by?

 

[winged1]

Granted league players usually run forward but you still get players running around you and stepping either side of you .The point I was making was you can make the first move by taking a step to one side to lessen the possibility of the player getting past you on that side.
Similar in Soccer when as a defender they step to one side so they can position a tackle with their preferred leg .
The body on body is what I was getting at as well, and I like your insight to your coaching in getting control of one arm or a wrist ,only problem in that tactic is the umpire has to call improper disposal if they get a one arm pass off.

The wrist control is about smaller kids being able to control and tackle a bigger kid, very hard to handball with one of your wrists being held. It is incorrect disposal if they drop it or fail to kick it and should be paid. What I was getting at was technique is big in tackling, plus accelerating through the point of impact (Wally Lewis was particularly good at this) hence Force=Mass x Acceleration. It takes time for kids to understand the difference between speed and acceleration.