Review Round 2, 2023 - Brisbane Lions vs. Melbourne

[rye]

No argument there. Just thought Petracca was underused in the guts, was wondering why. Maybe it was just me. Thought his midfield time was low.

thought this was stated to be an intentional plan from melbourne coming into the season, rotating more through their midfield so their core group do not get so tired and banged up towards the back end like they did last year

 

[Sanchez365]

Had 21 centre bounce attendances, only second to Oliver. Understand why you felt that way though, he really wasn't that effective.

Mostly Oliver got shutdown and blocked out by either Berry / Dunkley, which meant there was no one to give it to Petracca.

They probably also have a bit of work to integrate Grundy into that midfield, who hasn't looked like the same player he was before he got that 7 year deal.

 

[martinson]

Grundy and Petracca for whatever reason are currently but shadows of the players that they were not 2 or 3 years ago.

I haven't got any insight as to why other than they've both suffered injuries and wear and tear in the meantime but it's surely a lesson in getting overwrapt in any player from a LT club perspective.

I still believe Petracca will get back near what he was at some point. Grundy ,he's a good solid ruckman which was probably all he ever was.

 

[briztoon]

No argument there. Just thought Petracca was underused in the guts, was wondering why. Maybe it was just me. Thought his midfield time was low.

Melbourne said during the preseason, that they planned to play Petracca forward a lot more this year.

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I think that Gunston was a better fit at Melbourne.

I wonder if they talked to him.

They need better forwards

 

[Sherrinator]

I think that Gunston was a better fit at Melbourne.

I wonder if they talked to him.

They need better forwards

He wanted out of Melbourne. He will be good for us, we play a very congested forward line so our guys are going to need to get better at spotting leads.

 

[Sanchez365]

I also thought we saw Gunston do some very.nice Hawkins style moves managing to time leads to get shots from the pocket about 35m out. He had an off night kicking for goal but I think he showed a much different element to our forward line.

 

[Tom14]

I think that Gunston was a better fit at Melbourne.

I wonder if they talked to him.

They need better forwards

They are even worse than us when it comes to just bombing the ball in long and high.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Very happy with our bounce back on Friday night. Rayner down back looks pretty good and Daniher really impacted the game which was nice to see. A little disappointed with that last quarter but it would of been hard to get motivated for it after the power outage. Not to back it up away on Thursday night.

 

[beatnik]

Are we to assume Melbourne has a Specialist Restart Coach?

Both teams were in the same situation except Melbourne got to warm up on the field for 2 minutes

Few seem to agree that it was the massive deal you obv think it was…exactly what sort of a reaction are you looking for?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Few seem to agree that it was the massive deal you obv think it was…exactly what sort of a reaction are you looking for?

Did I say it was a massive deal?

 

[mpal6]

Very happy with our bounce back on Friday night. Rayner down back looks pretty good and Daniher really impacted the game which was nice to see. A little disappointed with that last quarter but it would of been hard to get motivated for it after the power outage. Not to back it up away on Thursday night.

The best thing about Rayner in backline is he looks so confident with ball in hand. He is just too strong to tackle for the small forwards and can fend off or bullock his way through with lot more power. Might get it wrong from time to time but he is a positive to our backline and hope we persist with this experiment.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

But we knew they would do that. We had a chance to withstand the challenge but almost all of our players left the work to their teammates

the situation went against us but offered a unique challenge that I hope the club regrets putting that level of effort into

Yeah let’s not worry about the first 3 1/2 quarter effort that had as 40 points up one one the premiership favourites. Let’s concentrate on the last 10 minutes. Your turning everything into a negative is f&n tiresome.

 

[p4p1]

The best thing about Rayner in backline is he looks so confident with ball in hand. He is just too strong to tackle for the small forwards and can fend off or bullock his way through with lot more power. Might get it wrong from time to time but he is a positive to our backline and hope we persist with this experiment.

The only time he lets himself down from what I see is when he man gets a bit far away and he can't impact the contest. I feel he makes up for it by doing the things you have mentioned though.

 

[iBeng]

So will the percentage impact us as much as that famous Bulldogs game a few years back that got us into a higher position by the width of a male bees appendage?

 

[Lions Flag 2020]

I might be only joining his family members as he only has 3 votes but I gave Joyce a vote. I thought he did a very good job.

 

[Elixuh]

I forgot Lachie hunter plays for the demons and didn’t recognise him with the shaved head. He looks like Simon goodwins love child with the shaved head.

 

[Ray Button]

Does anyone know where we might find Fagan's post-match presser video? I gather from some prior comments that he did do one, but it is not posted in the Match Centre where all other pressers are?

I understand Fagan had some mild complaints about the AFL's handling of the Lights-Out issue - surely the AFL wouldn't be so petty as to censor it??

 

[Tom14]

Does anyone know where we might find Fagan's post-match presser video? I gather from some prior comments that he did do one, but it is not posted in the Match Centre where all other pressers are?

I understand Fagan had some mild complaints about the AFL's handling of the Lights-Out issue - surely the AFL wouldn't be so petty as to censor it??

Technical issue with the video recording - if you are signed up to the roar deal patreon Mike Whiting posted his audio recording of it.

 

[Tom14]

First coaches votes for Will

FRI, MARCH 24
Brisbane Lions
vs
Melbourne
VOTES
PLAYER (CLUB)
10
Dayne Zorko

15

Dayne Zorko

Age

35

Ht

175cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

5.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

6.6

5star

CL

1.2

4star

(BL)
8
Will Ashcroft (BL)
6
Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

(BL)
2
Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

(BL)
2
Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

(MELB)
1
Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

(BL)
1
Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(MELB)

 

[LongLion]

First coaches votes for Will

FRI, MARCH 24
Brisbane Lions
vs
Melbourne
VOTES
PLAYER (CLUB)
10
Dayne Zorko (BL)
8
Will Ashcroft (BL)
6
Harris Andrews (BL)
2
Josh Dunkley (BL)
2
Jake Lever (MELB)
1
Charlie Cameron (BL)
1
Clayton Oliver (MELB)

Interesting that there was a media lovefest about Oliver's game but the coaches only gave him 1 vote which I agree with even though he got big stats he was largely ineffectual until the after lights time on period.

 

[mpal6]

I forgot Lachie hunter plays for the demons and didn’t recognise him with the shaved head. He looks like Simon goodwins love child with the shaved head.

I had that problem watching Dogs defense last round. Josh Bruce and Liam Jones - 18 and 19. shaved head with beard and moustache. Parked right next to each other. Yikes.

And then I go googling for them and even google decides to mess with me.

 

[Ray Button]

Technical issue with the video recording - if you are signed up to the roar deal patreon Mike Whiting posted his audio recording of it.

Thanks! I'm not signed up to Roar Deal, but I think I've pretty much got the gist of it through related clips.

 

[Nunez]

Thanks! I'm not signed up to Roar Deal, but I think I've pretty much got the gist of it through related clips.

You should sign up

 

[p4p1]

First coaches votes for Will

FRI, MARCH 24
Brisbane Lions
vs
Melbourne
VOTES
PLAYER (CLUB)
10
Dayne Zorko (BL)
8
Will Ashcroft (BL)
6
Harris Andrews (BL)
2
Josh Dunkley (BL)
2
Jake Lever (MELB)
1
Charlie Cameron (BL)
1
Clayton Oliver (MELB)

I would have to guess that 1 vote is based solely on the last 12 mins of the game though.

Interesting breakdown of the votes IMO.

Both coaches gave 5 votes to Zorko, 4 to Ashcroft, 3 to Andrews. Then they saw the game very differently. I don't hate the 2 votes for Lever, if it wasn't for him we would have been further ahead before the blackout IMO.