Review Round 2, 2023 - Brisbane Lions vs. Melbourne

[Hollow Knight]

I found that funny too. Almost as funny as when the home crowd absolutely gave it to Petty when he made a fool of himself in the 3rd quarter

I haven't watched the replay yet and was on the other side of the ground, but was it Petty who was left sprawling and humiliated from an ankle-breaking sidestep from 31 year old Jack Gunston? If so...

I enjoyed him standing in the goal square as a running Zorko drilled one right over his head.

 

[POBT]

I played the next two weeks before it just got too sore.
Mine was not a fracture as such. The injury was in 1971 and not picked up in a normal Xray they used in those days.
After playing two more games went off to a specialist
Have no idea what the correct medical term was regarding the scaphoid injury.
Quite a lot of small chips (off the scaphoid) were floating around in the area causing issues along with pain of course.
Had a request 10 years later from the surgeon to redo scans and check my wrist movement and restrictions etc.

Hopefully, clinical diagnosis and treatment has improved in the 52 years since you hurt your hand.

 

[Jivlain]

Surely you are being sarcastic. We beat the team who was 3rd on the ladder and we were 15th. We won and they lost. I think that is a good thing. Come finals, if we are in front of Melbourne or any team by 40 points with 12 minutes to go in the last quarter, I will be beside myself with joy, because the circumstances of last night will most likely never be repeated.

The only way last night was a ‘perfect test’ was if we were training for the future eventuality that the lights fail in the last quarter of a night game, where we are leading by a match winning margin and the side has to leave the arena for a lengthy break prior to a restart. In that case, you are right there may have been “learnings” from last night, otherwise the final 12 minutes last night were completely irrelevant. Just to cover all bases though, maybe we need to hire a Specialist Power Outage and Associated Mishap Restart Coach.

I think it's reasonable to take lessons about, say, focus and closing out a game from that period. And we've got work to do in that department.

But the net effect is we've got a point to fix on with those learnings while also winning the game and getting 4 premiership points. Best way to learn that lesson.

 

[Brett C]

Was it not the same for both teams?

We had so much to prove after last week not to mention 4 years of consistently crumbling against top teams

 

[Dalions]

Dunks with 42 pressure acts

 

[JasRulz63]

Dunks with 42 pressure acts

McCarthy with the second highest pressure acts for us with 21. Both highlights the ridiculousness of Dunkley's number, but also why McCarthy is in the side given it's a stat that generally favours midfielders because of repeat stoppages.

 

[Dalions]

McCarthy with the second highest pressure acts for us with 21. Both highlights the ridiculousness of Dunkley's number, but also why McCarthy is in the side given it's a stat that generally favours midfielders because of repeat stoppages.

That’s why he gets votes in the BnF.

 

[Viceregal]

Apologies if already mentioned (only read up to end of page 3 so far)

There is one very effective learnings from the first two games.

Coach to players:
When the lights are off in your head you get all of Port and the last 10 mins of Melb - you are the destroyed
When the lights are on in your head you get most of the Melb game - you are the destroyers
Which was more satisfying? Which made the training the week after more fulfilling? Which one is less embarressing?
You may win or you may lose but whether the light is on or off ye Lions that choice is 100% up to you.

A good phase two would be that anyone who cannot learn to manually adjust their personal light settings should get used to the grounds used by the VFL...

 

[Thomasno]

For those not in the know, the roar deal uploaded the audio from the press conference to their podcast feed.

Fages explicitly said he told them to not go super hard out there in the last 12 minutes and try and slow it down.

 

[dlanod]

For those not in the know, the roar deal uploaded the audio from the press conference to their podcast feed.

Fages explicitly said he told them to not go super hard out there in the last 12 minutes and try and slow it down.

Well we did half of his instructions...

 

[martinson]

For those not in the know, the roar deal uploaded the audio from the press conference to their podcast feed.

Fages explicitly said he told them to not go super hard out there in the last 12 minutes and try and slow it down.

That's what it looked like. I don't think Melbourne were super pumped either but once they got a sniff they thought geez we don't feel too bad and we couldn't get ourselves going, or thought we didn't have to.

For some strange reason teams that try to play out time against a big lead are more likely to leak a lot of goals than when they close it down against a gettable lead.

Which shows that you still have to go hard and play with intent even if you're slowing it down . It's hard to deprive the opposition of the ball if you're only half pie.

 

[Nunez]

Finally got to watch the replay and can’t believe I’m about to say this: I think Rayner should stay in the backline. We used him to perfection, pressing up to stoppages and winning clearances (he had a whopping four which is ridiculous for a half back), most of which were contested.

I noticed live how well Andrews directed the backs. He looked so comfortable playing as an interceptor and on the third tall forward. Rayner will learn a lot playing under him and Rich and you could just see him becoming more assured in when to press up and when to be the quarterback waiting for the hack kick.

Part of what made it work so well was having Berry on the ball. The three contested beasts in Berry, Dunkley and Neale just continued to win the clearance or break even. When stoppages were forced, having Rayner coming from behind, Ashcroft and Clugg from the wings and Zorko from the forward line was just an overwhelming number of guys capable of elite footy.

We doubled Melbourne for clearances and won contested football by 15. To do that against any team is great, but to do that against the best midfield (and team?) In the AFL is mammoth.

 

[briztoon]

Finally got to watch the replay and can’t believe I’m about to say this: I think Rayner should stay in the backline. We used him to perfection, pressing up to stoppages and winning clearances (he had a whopping four which is ridiculous for a half back), most of which were contested.

I noticed live how well Andrews directed the backs. He looked so comfortable playing as an interceptor and on the third tall forward. Rayner will learn a lot playing under him and Rich and you could just see him becoming more assured in when to press up and when to be the quarterback waiting for the hack kick.

Part of what made it work so well was having Berry on the ball. The three contested beasts in Berry, Dunkley and Neale just continued to win the clearance or break even. When stoppages were forced, having Rayner coming from behind, Ashcroft and Clugg from the wings and Zorko from the forward line was just an overwhelming number of guys capable of elite footy.

We doubled Melbourne for clearances and won contested football by 15. To do that against any team is great, but to do that against the best midfield (and team?) In the AFL is mammoth.

My only concern is if Berry’s shoulder will hold up.

It will be interesting to see if Fagan and co. keep McCluggage and Ashcroft on the wings.

 

[Nunez]

My only concern is if Berry’s shoulder will hold up.

It will be interesting to see if Fagan and co. keep McCluggage and Ashcroft on the wings.

Yeah my concern too, but believe the surgery went really well and they're confident it'll hold up.

 

[Dalions]

My only concern is if Berry’s shoulder will hold up.

It will be interesting to see if Fagan and co. keep McCluggage and Ashcroft on the wings.

From what Fages said yesterday it sounds to me like it may only be an option when we come up against the big midfields??

 

[Nunez]

From what Fages said yesterday it sounds to me like it may only be an option when we come up against the big midfields??

I think we have great flexibility in that area, but equally Berry, Dunkley and Neale thrashed the best starting three midfield combo in the game. The variety will keep us unpredictable, but we shouldn't shy away from that combination - it is seriously good.

 

[HereIGoAgain]

Jarrod Berry

7

Jarrod Berry

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

8.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.1

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

breakout year if those shoulders hold up. That and settling into a position might be the making of him.

 

[Section 5]

From what Fages said yesterday it sounds to me like it may only be an option when we come up against the big midfields??

So every week

 

[BangyBangy]

We doubled Melbourne for clearances and won contested football by 15. To do that against any team is great, but to do that against the best midfield (and team?) In the AFL is mammoth.

Have a feeling Petracca is playing injured & Viney was no where near match fit, but still, you can only play against the team selected.

 

[weevil]

I haven't watched the replay yet and was on the other side of the ground, but was it Petty who was left sprawling and humiliated from an ankle-breaking sidestep from 31 year old Jack Gunston? If so...

To which my ten-year-old (at his first ever game of footy) announced “And he fell on his bum! OH MY GOD that is embarrassing for Melbourne”

The Melbourne supporters in front of us spun around to look at him, looked back at each other, and then looked at me holding up their hands, with looks of complete helplessness on their faces.

 

[Nunez]

Have a feeling Petracca is playing injured & Viney was no where near match fit, but still, you can only play against the team selected.

Didn't look like that last week. Petracca was very good, Oliver was top tier and Viney was fit enough to play and it's round two.

 

[jjami15]

Didn't look like that last week. Petracca was very good, Oliver was top tier and Viney was fit enough to play and it's round two.

Just couldn’t handle the heat, literally.

 

[BangyBangy]

Didn't look like that last week. Petracca was very good, Oliver was top tier and Viney was fit enough to play and it's round two.

No argument there. Just thought Petracca was underused in the guts, was wondering why. Maybe it was just me. Thought his midfield time was low.

 

[Sanchez365]

Honestly wouldn’t be shocked if Melbourne did have a specialist restart coach

Oliver's dad or Petraccas?

 

[Nunez]

No argument there. Just thought Petracca was underused in the guts, was wondering why. Maybe it was just me. Thought his midfield time was low.

Had 21 centre bounce attendances, only second to Oliver. Understand why you felt that way though, he really wasn't that effective.