Autopsy Round 22 = Brisbane 142-57 Collingwood

[jackcass]

@jackcass 'happy to be corrected'! I'd like to see that!

LOL. I think you’re mistaking my willingness with the inability of a few muppets to give cause to do so..

 

[Big Bryza]

You could see this thumping coming from a while away.

We've literally had a crack in every game this season and not copped a thrashing.

Facing an up and about Brisbane side on their home deck, in front of a crowd. It was never going to end well.

I would absolutely love if we somehow knock off the Bombers this week. Melbourne 2017 style.

 

[Big Bryza]

Last night was merely a glimpse into what the next 2-3 years will offer. We have a bottom 4 list with our senior players best football behind them, and a glaring gap of talent due to diabolical list management over the past 5-7 years.

The next group of draftees coming through offer a few glimmers of hope (Henry and Bianco looking the most likely)

Outside of this we have speculative role type players across our list.

But I’m enjoying watching Treloar and Phillips play for opposition clubs whilst still on our payroll.

World of pain ahead




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Yeah his 15 disposal game on the weekend was unreal...

 

[Big Bryza]

WTF is up with Daniher when he plays us?

Every other game in the year he’s walking around like a big doofus with a big dopey smile on his face and looking totally disinterested.

Then when he plays us he has total game face on and comes out as a fire breathing dragon.

He must really hate us.

Daniher has had a really good season.

Kicked a goal in every game as well, only player to do so.

 

[Big Bryza]

I totally agree. Right now I would say that we have close to the worst list in the AFL. And once again where are the emerging key forwards? The answer is that we do not have any! I can see the wooden spoon looming large on the horizon in 2022. Goodnight & good luck.

Yep, the sooner those that don't realise get on board, the better.

Our list needs a good 2-3 years to reshape and go again.

It's up to the likes of JDG, Grundy, Maynard, Moore etc to lead the way next season and beyond.

 

[Countrypie]

I rarely feel the need to contribute to Autopsy threads. I understand why people need to vent or preen as the case may be. I always read them and often have a laugh at the extreme conclusions good and bad reached about various players,umpires and dare I say it mythical but rarely explained game plans.

So, having read through 9 pages largely which could have been written by Chicken Little, I'd like to make the following observations.

1/ For the first 35-40 minutes Collingwood looked to be on top. I think DeGoey put us in front. Then, as the current coach acknowledged in the presser, "we started to gradually lose players." Why did that happen? Did they give up and not try anymore? or did as is more than likely, the combination of young team v older hardened bodies/ humidity/and a long day combine to sap the energy of the players?

2/ Everything Brisbane did turned to gold in that 15 minute patch in the 2nd quarter. Everything. It happens. A young team with a sprinkling of older heads is going to find that hard. We did. We missed Howe and or Moore in the backline organising the defence to leave Roughy less exposed, and we missed their calm influence to slow the game down during that time.

3/ We kept taking the game on in that 2nd quarter and Brisbane were too good. Too good physically. We kept turning it over in bad places and then they made us pay. The result was what it was. Players like Murphy, Bianco, Mcrae and Ruscoe will be all the better for experiencing that heat. I read every week on here how people want Collingwood to take the game on at all costs and that we've been too defensive as a team since 2019. This is what taking the game on when you don't have the cattle looks like. It isn't pretty is it?

4/There are a group of senior players that constantly get criticized for their lack of effort/poor skills/ dum decision making/ [insert whatever beef you have] I didn't see that - I saw senior players being overwhelmed by numbers. It happens to teams without sufficient depth around the ball. Get used to it in the short term. I could not question the effort of those senior players. I was disappointed with the output, but sometimes you just have to suck it up and acknowledge that we're outgunned.

5/ I loved the first 35 minutes. I really did. I bled for the rest of the match. It wasn't great. It won't be the last time. I remember losing to Richmond by 100 pts when they weren't even in the 8. That felt worse - much worse. That felt dark and dismal. This didn't . It felt like we got our pants pulled down by a hungry hardened team that took advantage of our rawness. The experience will be invaluable for the younger layers in years to come. That's the standard you need to achieve.

We aren't as bad as some are willing to believe.

Next year won't be great, but I'm honestly can't wait to see what it brings. It's these times that make success taste better. Get on board and enjoy the ride- it's going to have its twists, turns, peaks and valleys, but its what makes success taste sweet.

cheers

 

[Rebuilder]

Well, he who shall not be named did breach the hub last year didn't he? You know, when he was playing "tennis".

Thank God he's gone.

So you need a figurehead to blame for our list management team mismanaging so badly that we blew 8 first rounders on players that are not at the club anymore?

And Buck's is no doubt thinking the same, thank god I'm gone and don't have to put up with amateurs that can't manage a list (let alone recruit a key forward) and simplistic one dimensional supporters that need a scapegoat to vent their frustrations out on.

 

[Doc1763]

So you need a figurehead to blame for our list management team mismanaging so badly that we blew 8 first rounders on players that are not at the club anymore?

And Buck's is no doubt thinking the same, thank god I'm gone and don't have to put up with amateurs that can't manage a list (let alone recruit a key forward) and simplistic one dimensional supporters that need a scapegoat to vent their frustrations out on.

I don't recall blaming him for that, you brought that up. I blamed him for effectively ending Dawes' career, which he did. You, for reasons only you could possibly know, changed the subject.

 

[Rebuilder]

I don't recall blaming him for that, you brought that up. I blamed him for effectively ending Dawes' career, which he did. You, for reasons only you could possibly know, changed the subject.

Yeah I ignored that part because it was so ridiculous, has Dawes recovered yet? you know from playing the exact same position but with a little ruck work thrown in? Poor kid, has he sued Buckley yet for asking him to play football?

 

[Doc1763]

Yeah I ignored that part because it was so ridiculous, has Dawes recovered yet? you know from playing the exact same position but with a little ruck work thrown in? Poor kid, has he sued Buckley yet for asking him to play football?

He should, as should members, for their membership fees for 9 of the past 10 years.

 

[Robroy22]

You could see this thumping coming from a while away.

We've literally had a crack in every game this season and not copped a thrashing.

Facing an up and about Brisbane side on their home deck, in front of a crowd. It was never going to end well.

I would absolutely love if we somehow knock off the Bombers this week. Melbourne 2017 style.

I'd love it too, but I can't see Rutten and Caracella letting the Bombers slip up against us!

 

[Robroy22]

Daniher has had a really good season.

Kicked a goal in every game as well, only player to do so.

That's only cos Ginni hasn't played that many!

 

[Robroy22]

I rarely feel the need to contribute to Autopsy threads. I understand why people need to vent or preen as the case may be. I always read them and often have a laugh at the extreme conclusions good and bad reached about various players,umpires and dare I say it mythical but rarely explained game plans.

So, having read through 9 pages largely which could have been written by Chicken Little, I'd like to make the following observations.

1/ For the first 35-40 minutes Collingwood looked to be on top. I think DeGoey put us in front. Then, as the current coach acknowledged in the presser, "we started to gradually lose players." Why did that happen? Did they give up and not try anymore? or did as is more than likely, the combination of young team v older hardened bodies/ humidity/and a long day combine to sap the energy of the players?

2/ Everything Brisbane did turned to gold in that 15 minute patch in the 2nd quarter. Everything. It happens. A young team with a sprinkling of older heads is going to find that hard. We did. We missed Howe and or Moore in the backline organising the defence to leave Roughy less exposed, and we missed their calm influence to slow the game down during that time.

3/ We kept taking the game on in that 2nd quarter and Brisbane were too good. Too good physically. We kept turning it over in bad places and then they made us pay. The result was what it was. Players like Murphy, Bianco, Mcrae and Ruscoe will be all the better for experiencing that heat. I read every week on here how people want Collingwood to take the game on at all costs and that we've been too defensive as a team since 2019. This is what taking the game on when you don't have the cattle looks like. It isn't pretty is it?

4/There are a group of senior players that constantly get criticized for their lack of effort/poor skills/ dum decision making/ [insert whatever beef you have] I didn't see that - I saw senior players being overwhelmed by numbers. It happens to teams without sufficient depth around the ball. Get used to it in the short term. I could not question the effort of those senior players. I was disappointed with the output, but sometimes you just have to suck it up and acknowledge that we're outgunned.

5/ I loved the first 35 minutes. I really did. I bled for the rest of the match. It wasn't great. It won't be the last time. I remember losing to Richmond by 100 pts when they weren't even in the 8. That felt worse - much worse. That felt dark and dismal. This didn't . It felt like we got our pants pulled down by a hungry hardened team that took advantage of our rawness. The experience will be invaluable for the younger layers in years to come. That's the standard you need to achieve.

We aren't as bad as some are willing to believe.

Next year won't be great, but I'm honestly can't wait to see what it brings. It's these times that make success taste better. Get on board and enjoy the ride- it's going to have its twists, turns, peaks and valleys, but its what makes success taste sweet.

cheers

love it

 

[Rebuilder]

He should, as should members, for their membership fees for 9 of the past 10 years.

Pretty sure Dawes isn't sitting around whining like an infant and blaming someone else for his career, if you ever thought he was more than serviceable then you didn't look at his hands and that's on you, not Buckley. You act like Buckley is the boogey man when you know exactly who destroyed our chance during his run, build a bridge mate.

 

[Mukesh]

I rarely feel the need to contribute to Autopsy threads. I understand why people need to vent or preen as the case may be. I always read them and often have a laugh at the extreme conclusions good and bad reached about various players,umpires and dare I say it mythical but rarely explained game plans.

So, having read through 9 pages largely which could have been written by Chicken Little, I'd like to make the following observations.

1/ For the first 35-40 minutes Collingwood looked to be on top. I think DeGoey put us in front. Then, as the current coach acknowledged in the presser, "we started to gradually lose players." Why did that happen? Did they give up and not try anymore? or did as is more than likely, the combination of young team v older hardened bodies/ humidity/and a long day combine to sap the energy of the players?

2/ Everything Brisbane did turned to gold in that 15 minute patch in the 2nd quarter. Everything. It happens. A young team with a sprinkling of older heads is going to find that hard. We did. We missed Howe and or Moore in the backline organising the defence to leave Roughy less exposed, and we missed their calm influence to slow the game down during that time.

3/ We kept taking the game on in that 2nd quarter and Brisbane were too good. Too good physically. We kept turning it over in bad places and then they made us pay. The result was what it was. Players like Murphy, Bianco, Mcrae and Ruscoe will be all the better for experiencing that heat. I read every week on here how people want Collingwood to take the game on at all costs and that we've been too defensive as a team since 2019. This is what taking the game on when you don't have the cattle looks like. It isn't pretty is it?

4/There are a group of senior players that constantly get criticized for their lack of effort/poor skills/ dum decision making/ [insert whatever beef you have] I didn't see that - I saw senior players being overwhelmed by numbers. It happens to teams without sufficient depth around the ball. Get used to it in the short term. I could not question the effort of those senior players. I was disappointed with the output, but sometimes you just have to suck it up and acknowledge that we're outgunned.

5/ I loved the first 35 minutes. I really did. I bled for the rest of the match. It wasn't great. It won't be the last time. I remember losing to Richmond by 100 pts when they weren't even in the 8. That felt worse - much worse. That felt dark and dismal. This didn't . It felt like we got our pants pulled down by a hungry hardened team that took advantage of our rawness. The experience will be invaluable for the younger layers in years to come. That's the standard you need to achieve.

We aren't as bad as some are willing to believe.

Next year won't be great, but I'm honestly can't wait to see what it brings. It's these times that make success taste better. Get on board and enjoy the ride- it's going to have its twists, turns, peaks and valleys, but its what makes success taste sweet.

cheers

Excellent words... overpowered by a physically stronger and confident team but at no stage did any of our guys stop trying...

 

[Countrypie]

Excellent words... overpowered by a physically stronger and confident team but at no stage did any of our guys stop trying...

That's pretty much what I saw...There's no shame in being beaten by a better team. Hopefully lessons will be learned

 

[rand corp]

They were on their home deck, with a home crowd and all the momentum, we were stuffed around with Covid precautions and up against it. They had a night where everything they tried seemed to come off. We were outgunned, outplayed, and out-muscled and in the end, we looked like a side thinking about that end-of-season break, whilst they looked like a side primed for a deep run at the finals.

Last game, play a few more kids, let them have a taste of the big show to fire them up for pre-season.

 

[sr36]

Excellent words... overpowered by a physically stronger and confident team but at no stage did any of our guys stop trying...

And I'm glad we didn't park the bus and lose more honorably like we would have done early in the year. Let them learn through playing in the real heat, rather than slowing it right down.

 

[Carringbush2010]

And I'm glad we didn't park the bus and lose more honorably like we would have done early in the year. Let them learn through playing in the real heat, rather than slowing it right down.

Well I can't like this post enough!