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Over that 15 game period there would be plenty and that's long enough to get a good indication of where he sits. Without checking the stats I wouldn't like to name names but check out Footywire and you'll find them.

In other words you can't disprove his point because you didn't provide any factual evidence. Well done

You want me to check the records of every backman in a few minutes to prove a point that's self-evident. You're a moron!

You're a twat because you're wrong but good try

I not a twat although I'm very fond of them. I'm not wrong either. I'm not looking at the stats of all the potentially top backmen to give conclusive evidence but I will tell you that Shaw's average over his last 11 games last season was 87.5 and his average in 5 games this year is 83.8. That makes his average over those last 16 games 86.3. That's not the average of a top 10 defender.

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