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Has anyone else herd the rumour that Essendon are looking at Callum Burges from West Perth with pick 6. How can we ignore Sylvia, Tenance and Ray. This was reported on bomberblitz.
Rumoured selection for pick 6
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I hope to God Sheeds is playing games so W.C take Burges and @ 13 we get a better player i.e mclean, dunn. If he takes Burges @ 6 I'll be very unhappy. or @ 13 for that matter.
I actually predicted this in the phantom draft I began on Sunday. Unfortunately, now I won't be able to claim it. 
Sheedy came to Perth over the weekend and I can tell you he looked very closely at Burges and had multiple discussions with him.
Burges is an extremely athletic, pacy, well-balanced midfielder/forward who has an incredible marking ability and is as tough as they come. It will be a big risk considering he has only really played in a high school competition, but I wouldn't put it past Sheedy.
Or perhaps Sheedy is trying to pretend to be looking closely at Burges as a foil to force West Coast to select him with their first pick? Who knows?
Sheedy came to Perth over the weekend and I can tell you he looked very closely at Burges and had multiple discussions with him.
Burges is an extremely athletic, pacy, well-balanced midfielder/forward who has an incredible marking ability and is as tough as they come. It will be a big risk considering he has only really played in a high school competition, but I wouldn't put it past Sheedy.
Or perhaps Sheedy is trying to pretend to be looking closely at Burges as a foil to force West Coast to select him with their first pick? Who knows?
oh god, please, not another dud...You would've thought they'd learnt their lesson by now...
We don't know if Burges will be a dud, or a gun. The worry with players who have only been in school competition is that no one gets to see them perform at the highest level (at least, among 17 to 18 year olds).
I don't know anything about the WA system, but I know that there's a big difference in quality between the TAC Cup and school footy in Victoria.
If Burges had played in the WA U18 system, how well would he have performed? Would we be saying that he is worth a high pick, a second round, third round, etc. We don't know, unfortunately.
Players are ultimately selected on where a club thinks they'll be in five years (roughly) time. It's a measure of potential, rather than the score they've got on the board. If Burges has a great amount of potential - an amount which puts him alongside the likes of Cooney, Walker, Sylvia, Clarke, Tenance, etc. - then he would be worth pick #6.
But as we all know, potential doesn't equal results. Davies tore up the paddock in school footy, but couldn't get near it even at VFL level. Yet, Richards was another who played mostly school footy, but has looked like he'll be a good senior player. The issue here is, I think, a mental one. Sheedy spoke to Burges, so perhaps he has a good idea of how well Burges' head is screwed on.
I guess we'll find out all on Saturday.
I don't know anything about the WA system, but I know that there's a big difference in quality between the TAC Cup and school footy in Victoria.
If Burges had played in the WA U18 system, how well would he have performed? Would we be saying that he is worth a high pick, a second round, third round, etc. We don't know, unfortunately.
Players are ultimately selected on where a club thinks they'll be in five years (roughly) time. It's a measure of potential, rather than the score they've got on the board. If Burges has a great amount of potential - an amount which puts him alongside the likes of Cooney, Walker, Sylvia, Clarke, Tenance, etc. - then he would be worth pick #6.
But as we all know, potential doesn't equal results. Davies tore up the paddock in school footy, but couldn't get near it even at VFL level. Yet, Richards was another who played mostly school footy, but has looked like he'll be a good senior player. The issue here is, I think, a mental one. Sheedy spoke to Burges, so perhaps he has a good idea of how well Burges' head is screwed on.
I guess we'll find out all on Saturday.
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Still don't think Burges worth pick 6. Rather anyone of Tennace, bradley, Dunn, Clarke.
Why not? I think the plain fact of the matter is that you, like most other people, don't know!
Like I said, I'm just hopeful that if our recruiting staff are considering him, it's because they've had a good look at him and have been able to make an honest and accurate assessment.
Does anyone actually believe that clubs 'hide' kids in school footy or elsewhere so they are the only club that knows about them? What kid would agree to that?
'Pssttt, hey kid. Yeah you. We want you to play school footy and stay away from TAC so no other club knows about you and then on draft day, we will pick you up'
'Oh, ok. But......what happens to me if you change your mind and don't pick me up on draft day?'
'Well, in that particular instance you would be well and truly f*****'
'Pssttt, hey kid. Yeah you. We want you to play school footy and stay away from TAC so no other club knows about you and then on draft day, we will pick you up'
'Oh, ok. But......what happens to me if you change your mind and don't pick me up on draft day?'
'Well, in that particular instance you would be well and truly f*****'
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Because I can only go by what i've read some of which is that he's an injury riddled school footballer who should go second round. Not pick 6. I think @ pick 6 we should be takeing someone everyone has seen and rates. Not someone who was supposedly "hidden" by W.C Davies was "Hidden" to.
Btw Haven't seen him play have u?
Like you, I can only go by what I've read.
As for his injuries, apparently he himself claimed that he had OP at the draft camp, but he still recorded some impressive results. Makes you wonder.
As for people saying second round, it's as much a guess as you and I are making right now.
As for Davies being hidden, there was a lot of controversy about that, but the egg didn't stick. But with Richards we've seen that picking kids from school footy isn't necessarily a bad idea. Of course, Richards went at pick #27.
As for pick #6, we shouldn't make our selection based on what other teams and the media and supporters have seen and heard. The recruiting staff should make their selection based on what they have seen and what they know. And if their experience is that Burges is a good selection, then that's fine.
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Pick 6 should be someone like Bradley or Clarke not Burges. Not worth the risk takeing Burges get someone who has played well in the highest underage level possible (or seniors in Bradleys case) is well known and rated not worth the risk. No matter how good Sheeds thinks he could be.
I'm inclined to agree with you, but at the end of the day, the recruiting staff just need to pick the player they think has the best upside. If that's Burges, then so be it.
Players aren't picked purely based on what they have done at the underage level, they are picked based on what the club believes they'll be in roughly five years time.
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Thats why I Hope we get Bradley in 5 years he'll be settled @ the club be fit and strong enough to play anywhere and will be near impossible to match up on. Plus we's a buck up Ruckman incase we suffer shocking injuries if not he could play wing.
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isnt laycock our big hope though?
clarke for me
clarke for me
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Be he's a KPP Bradley can be a utility its all about mis matches. Bradley could play as a crummer to Laycock
You're ignoring the fact that ALL draftees are a risk and may turn out to be duds no matter which league they played in beforehand.
Clubs don't take much consideration into which league the players have played in. As Stevo said, if a club thinks a player will be better than everyone else available at that point in the draft in 3 years time, they will select him. Each year players are drafted from the NT and Queensland, whose underage league are far below the standard of the WAFL and SANFL underage leagues as well as the TAC Cup.
The system in WA is that players play in the WAFL colts before the U/18 carnival, and after the carnival may be promoted to play in the league/reserves. The last WA draftee to have been drafted after playing school footy and only one colts game was Luke McPharlin, who went to Hawthorn at pick 9 in 1999.
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It would be a bigger risk to take Burges @ 6 ahead of bradley, Clarke, etc.
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Bradley Clarke are widely regarded as haveing more talent than Burges. Therefore less risk.
Sheedy proberly thought Davies was such a good athlete that in 5 years time he'd grow a football brain.
I'd rather they take Clarke. I've seen what he can do and I know on a basic scale that if we pick him up, provided he doesn't run off to StK...he'll give us an adequate return on the investment (pick 6)
Regardless, pick 6 isn't going to spearhead our next tilt at the premiership. He'll be in the next generation.
Regardless, pick 6 isn't going to spearhead our next tilt at the premiership. He'll be in the next generation.
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Agree the 2008 premeiship tilt
I hope we get Tennace think of the pace tennace, winderlich, walsh, rama, reynolds, alvey, Bullen and Cupes will play more in the midfield.Similar threads
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