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Eastern Goose can't elaborate on anything. A millimetre deep and off the mark is as far as it goes.Can you elaborate on both?
What you've written is likely based on nothing but a weakly unintelligent attempt to troll. As usual.
Out of touch. ALL of 'em
From a friend of mine who worked in govt communications and now works for himself predicting outcomes
HEY EVERYONE MOST IMPORTANT POST ABOUT GOVERNMENT STRATEGY SHARE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY
This news story is outright propaganda but it shows you exactly what the final plan is for Australia and what will happen.
tl;dr - YOU ARE GOING TO GET COVID-19
It's now clear we're going for the 'herd immunity' strategy that the UK started and then dropped in horror and what the US is doing, otherwise known as 'you're all gonna get it, hope you don't all die'.
Now let me say one thing up front - THIS ONLY WORKS IF THE VIRUS DOES NOT MUTATE SIGNIFICANTLY AND PEOPLE CANNOT BE RE-INFECTED AND NO ONE ENTERS YOUR COUNTRY EVER AGAIN WHILE SICK
We do not know if you can get reinfected - but we DO know that in most similar situations (eg the 'flu') that unless you entirely eradicate it from the world population it WILL come 'back' after a period and infect again and if you don't have a vaccine then you're back to square 1. So it's highly likely that 'herd immunity' only lasts for 6/12 months, if that. In other words, pretty useless when you realise that air travel allows near instant transmission.
There are two possible reasons why the government has chosen this path:
1) From the outset they worked on the very, very dodgy notion that the UK was using - 'Let everyone get it, shame about those who die, but it's only 2% lol and then everyone will be immune and we get back to MAKING MONEY MONEY MONEY'
2) They were just so useless in their hand wringing, heel dragging and corporate grovelling that by the time they worked whether or not you could get your hair cut, they were informed the virus is spreading so damn fast now we've had this scenario forced on us oh well better call in some tame scientists to burble about #flatteningthecurve and get the spin machine going.
The big problem of course is that this all relies on unknown data (re-infection) and ignores the PRETTY OBVIOUS FACT that we live in the 21st century and have AEROPLANES.
To put it another way, let's say this goes the way they want. 60% of Australians get it, thousands or tens of thousands die, but then your nation is comprised of the remainder of that 60% (who are immune and will not spread the disease in its current form) and the 40% who didn't get it and now will not get it from the other 60%.
Which is great AS LONG AS NO ONE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY WHO IS SICK COMES TO AUSTRALIA AND INTRODUCES THE VIRUS TO ANYONE FROM THAT 40% GEE MR PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY HOW COME YOU MISSED THAT BIT WHEN YOUR COUNTERPARTS OVERSEAS DID NOT.
Which is what will happen. We will get through Wave 1, god knows how many die, life is hell, and then sCoMo announces ITS OVER WE DID IT THE LNP SAVED AUSTRALIA SORRY ABOUT GRANNY BUT SHE WOULD WANT YOU TO MAKE MONEY LETS HAVE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY EVERYONE GET PISSED HOW GOOD IS MONEY
The alleged 40% who didn't get it breathe a sigh of relief...
...until they start coughing a week later because someone from America touched a door handle before them. Every single sick person entering the nation potentially brings the virus to that remaining 40% and it will then spread through them, albeit slower.
That's the endgame here. Everyone gets it, eventually. Which, if you can't be reinfected and it doesn't mutate significantly is STILL a terrible idea because it STILL means the greater loss of life and cost in the long term, assuming you can do short term cost/long term cost calculations which the government is notoriously bad at.
If of course you CAN be re-infected and the virus DOES mutate then it's basically just outright murder of a sizeable part of your population.
Don't be a fool and see #flattenthecurve and think OH WOW THAT LOOKS CLEVER IT HAS A HASHTAG I THINK I KNOW SCIENCE.
This is about killing off lots of people, quite possibly your mum and dad and maybe even you, in the mistaken belief it will reduce the profit hit for major corporations and the more sinister reality that our Neoliberal nations are currently early-stage fascist states and our leaders will use this opportunity to increase their already draconian powers.
That's why you see a stark dividing line between the Western nations run by far right nutjobs (US, Aus, UK) and their 'do nothing' approach (except for the UK because Boris is slightly smarter than he looks) and all the other nations (lockdown).
I didn't vote for this, here's hoping you didn't. And if you did, while dying may be poetic justice, I hope it doesn't happen to you because you need to live long enough to learn from your mistakes.
From a friend of mine who worked in govt communications and now works for himself predicting outcomes
HEY EVERYONE MOST IMPORTANT POST ABOUT GOVERNMENT STRATEGY SHARE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY
This news story is outright propaganda but it shows you exactly what the final plan is for Australia and what will happen.
tl;dr - YOU ARE GOING TO GET COVID-19
It's now clear we're going for the 'herd immunity' strategy that the UK started and then dropped in horror and what the US is doing, otherwise known as 'you're all gonna get it, hope you don't all die'.
Now let me say one thing up front - THIS ONLY WORKS IF THE VIRUS DOES NOT MUTATE SIGNIFICANTLY AND PEOPLE CANNOT BE RE-INFECTED AND NO ONE ENTERS YOUR COUNTRY EVER AGAIN WHILE SICK
We do not know if you can get reinfected - but we DO know that in most similar situations (eg the 'flu') that unless you entirely eradicate it from the world population it WILL come 'back' after a period and infect again and if you don't have a vaccine then you're back to square 1. So it's highly likely that 'herd immunity' only lasts for 6/12 months, if that. In other words, pretty useless when you realise that air travel allows near instant transmission.
There are two possible reasons why the government has chosen this path:
1) From the outset they worked on the very, very dodgy notion that the UK was using - 'Let everyone get it, shame about those who die, but it's only 2% lol and then everyone will be immune and we get back to MAKING MONEY MONEY MONEY'
2) They were just so useless in their hand wringing, heel dragging and corporate grovelling that by the time they worked whether or not you could get your hair cut, they were informed the virus is spreading so damn fast now we've had this scenario forced on us oh well better call in some tame scientists to burble about #flatteningthecurve and get the spin machine going.
The big problem of course is that this all relies on unknown data (re-infection) and ignores the PRETTY OBVIOUS FACT that we live in the 21st century and have AEROPLANES.
To put it another way, let's say this goes the way they want. 60% of Australians get it, thousands or tens of thousands die, but then your nation is comprised of the remainder of that 60% (who are immune and will not spread the disease in its current form) and the 40% who didn't get it and now will not get it from the other 60%.
Which is great AS LONG AS NO ONE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY WHO IS SICK COMES TO AUSTRALIA AND INTRODUCES THE VIRUS TO ANYONE FROM THAT 40% GEE MR PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY HOW COME YOU MISSED THAT BIT WHEN YOUR COUNTERPARTS OVERSEAS DID NOT.
Which is what will happen. We will get through Wave 1, god knows how many die, life is hell, and then sCoMo announces ITS OVER WE DID IT THE LNP SAVED AUSTRALIA SORRY ABOUT GRANNY BUT SHE WOULD WANT YOU TO MAKE MONEY LETS HAVE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY EVERYONE GET PISSED HOW GOOD IS MONEY
The alleged 40% who didn't get it breathe a sigh of relief...
...until they start coughing a week later because someone from America touched a door handle before them. Every single sick person entering the nation potentially brings the virus to that remaining 40% and it will then spread through them, albeit slower.
That's the endgame here. Everyone gets it, eventually. Which, if you can't be reinfected and it doesn't mutate significantly is STILL a terrible idea because it STILL means the greater loss of life and cost in the long term, assuming you can do short term cost/long term cost calculations which the government is notoriously bad at.
If of course you CAN be re-infected and the virus DOES mutate then it's basically just outright murder of a sizeable part of your population.
Don't be a fool and see #flattenthecurve and think OH WOW THAT LOOKS CLEVER IT HAS A HASHTAG I THINK I KNOW SCIENCE.
This is about killing off lots of people, quite possibly your mum and dad and maybe even you, in the mistaken belief it will reduce the profit hit for major corporations and the more sinister reality that our Neoliberal nations are currently early-stage fascist states and our leaders will use this opportunity to increase their already draconian powers.
That's why you see a stark dividing line between the Western nations run by far right nutjobs (US, Aus, UK) and their 'do nothing' approach (except for the UK because Boris is slightly smarter than he looks) and all the other nations (lockdown).
I didn't vote for this, here's hoping you didn't. And if you did, while dying may be poetic justice, I hope it doesn't happen to you because you need to live long enough to learn from your mistakes.
This is about killing off lots of people, quite possibly your mum and dad and maybe even you, in the mistaken belief it will reduce the profit hit for major corporations and the more sinister reality that our Neoliberal nations are currently early-stage fascist states and our leaders will use this opportunity to increase their already draconian powers.
Brilliant
I think I read the exact same thing over on the conspiracy board. Did you post that up on your facebook matey?
Ah, thats where you come from. Makes more sense now.
When all your billionaire mates currently in isolation are screaming “keep the plebs working” you think of a scenario that might work and then hope like f}#%# it worksThat does seem to be the plan.
I wonder how they came up with this strategy?
How does one go for herd immunity when it is not known whether immunity is even possible?
Its not my facebook.Brilliant
I think I read the exact same thing over on the conspiracy board. Did you post that up on your facebook matey?
Its not my facebook.
Tell you what i can do - screenshot posts of his from january explaining exactly what was going to happen - and voila - weve watched it happen.
Brb
How exactly is it "now clear we're going for the 'herd immunity' strategy"?From a friend of mine who worked in govt communications and now works for himself predicting outcomes
HEY EVERYONE MOST IMPORTANT POST ABOUT GOVERNMENT STRATEGY SHARE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY
This news story is outright propaganda but it shows you exactly what the final plan is for Australia and what will happen.
tl;dr - YOU ARE GOING TO GET COVID-19
It's now clear we're going for the 'herd immunity' strategy that the UK started and then dropped in horror and what the US is doing, otherwise known as 'you're all gonna get it, hope you don't all die'.
Now let me say one thing up front - THIS ONLY WORKS IF THE VIRUS DOES NOT MUTATE SIGNIFICANTLY AND PEOPLE CANNOT BE RE-INFECTED AND NO ONE ENTERS YOUR COUNTRY EVER AGAIN WHILE SICK
We do not know if you can get reinfected - but we DO know that in most similar situations (eg the 'flu') that unless you entirely eradicate it from the world population it WILL come 'back' after a period and infect again and if you don't have a vaccine then you're back to square 1. So it's highly likely that 'herd immunity' only lasts for 6/12 months, if that. In other words, pretty useless when you realise that air travel allows near instant transmission.
There are two possible reasons why the government has chosen this path:
1) From the outset they worked on the very, very dodgy notion that the UK was using - 'Let everyone get it, shame about those who die, but it's only 2% lol and then everyone will be immune and we get back to MAKING MONEY MONEY MONEY'
2) They were just so useless in their hand wringing, heel dragging and corporate grovelling that by the time they worked whether or not you could get your hair cut, they were informed the virus is spreading so damn fast now we've had this scenario forced on us oh well better call in some tame scientists to burble about #flatteningthecurve and get the spin machine going.
The big problem of course is that this all relies on unknown data (re-infection) and ignores the PRETTY OBVIOUS FACT that we live in the 21st century and have AEROPLANES.
To put it another way, let's say this goes the way they want. 60% of Australians get it, thousands or tens of thousands die, but then your nation is comprised of the remainder of that 60% (who are immune and will not spread the disease in its current form) and the 40% who didn't get it and now will not get it from the other 60%.
Which is great AS LONG AS NO ONE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY WHO IS SICK COMES TO AUSTRALIA AND INTRODUCES THE VIRUS TO ANYONE FROM THAT 40% GEE MR PROFESSOR OF EPIDEMIOLOGY HOW COME YOU MISSED THAT BIT WHEN YOUR COUNTERPARTS OVERSEAS DID NOT.
Which is what will happen. We will get through Wave 1, god knows how many die, life is hell, and then sCoMo announces ITS OVER WE DID IT THE LNP SAVED AUSTRALIA SORRY ABOUT GRANNY BUT SHE WOULD WANT YOU TO MAKE MONEY LETS HAVE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY EVERYONE GET PISSED HOW GOOD IS MONEY
The alleged 40% who didn't get it breathe a sigh of relief...
...until they start coughing a week later because someone from America touched a door handle before them. Every single sick person entering the nation potentially brings the virus to that remaining 40% and it will then spread through them, albeit slower.
That's the endgame here. Everyone gets it, eventually. Which, if you can't be reinfected and it doesn't mutate significantly is STILL a terrible idea because it STILL means the greater loss of life and cost in the long term, assuming you can do short term cost/long term cost calculations which the government is notoriously bad at.
If of course you CAN be re-infected and the virus DOES mutate then it's basically just outright murder of a sizeable part of your population.
Don't be a fool and see #flattenthecurve and think OH WOW THAT LOOKS CLEVER IT HAS A HASHTAG I THINK I KNOW SCIENCE.
This is about killing off lots of people, quite possibly your mum and dad and maybe even you, in the mistaken belief it will reduce the profit hit for major corporations and the more sinister reality that our Neoliberal nations are currently early-stage fascist states and our leaders will use this opportunity to increase their already draconian powers.
That's why you see a stark dividing line between the Western nations run by far right nutjobs (US, Aus, UK) and their 'do nothing' approach (except for the UK because Boris is slightly smarter than he looks) and all the other nations (lockdown).
I didn't vote for this, here's hoping you didn't. And if you did, while dying may be poetic justice, I hope it doesn't happen to you because you need to live long enough to learn from your mistakes.
You are aware that this virus is transmissible whilst asymptomatic right? This is the single most important thing that everyone doesnt get - the last 15 hours before you show your first symptom - you are a superspreader - highly infectious - 1 person in italy infected 650 people in 2 days in his villageHow exactly is it "now clear we're going for the 'herd immunity' strategy"?
This whole screed is based on that assumption, yet I see no firm proof that is in any way "now clear".
I have been the first in line to criticise this appalling government. I am diametrically opposed to their politics. I believe Naomi Klein's writings on Disaster Capitalism are more relevant than ever before.
But I see no evidence yet, that lurking behind it all is a capitalist plot to soften the blow on corporate bottom lines and to hell with it if heaps of people die along the way.
Unattributed internet garbage, if you ask me.
This thread will go down as one of the all time greats, never stops delivering.Is he a writer for The Simpsons?
now look at the countries that have locked down - look at their governments.
You didn't afford me anything. You misrepresented my positions then dismissed any response as deception.
I'm not interested in wasting my time responding when you're not even listening. I already have a two year old.
I have conservative opinions generally, that's not surprising to anyone.See? More playing the victim/woe is me
I dismissed your response with reason, which you were not able to reciprocate, that is your problem.
I see you are no longer trying to argue you aren't a right winger anymore though, which was my original contention, which is basically an admission, love it.
How exactly is it "now clear we're going for the 'herd immunity' strategy"?
This whole screed is based on that assumption, yet I see no firm proof that is in any way "now clear".
I have been the first in line to criticise this appalling government. I am diametrically opposed to their politics. I believe Naomi Klein's writings on Disaster Capitalism are more relevant than ever before.
But I see no evidence yet, that lurking behind it all is a capitalist plot to soften the blow on corporate bottom lines and to hell with it if heaps of people die along the way.
Unattributed internet garbage, if you ask me.
This thread will go down as one of the all time greats, never stops delivering.
Yes I do understand that a swift and total lockdown is the only way to contain it.You are aware that this virus is transmissible whilst asymptomatic right? This is the single most important thing that everyone doesnt get - the last 15 hours before you show your first symptom - you are a superspreader - highly infectious - 1 person in italy infected 650 people in 2 days in his village
The only way to stop it dead - is to lock the country down - with me so far?
Its short term paid but longterm its way better
now look at the countries that have locked down - look at their governments.