Sick with #30 umpire anger

[Us against the rest]

I had a look a the West v Eagles game in the sanfl, it was so refreshing to see how the umps operated, so much better than in the AFL in particular a certain umpire McInerney.

 

[Jonts]

As an umpire myself, went up to SANFL U18s level with a few reserves and emergancy for league games (being a league emergancy is the easiest $140)
side note stopped this year due to wanting to give more time to playing

Umpires have favourite players, and 90% of errors are made from being in a poor position
But yet in umpire training (yes i dont know what its like at AFL level) is around 50% fitness, 25% fun stuff ie brain reflex's stuff, then 25% rule discussion (sometimes there iis being in the right position talked about here)

I'd hope to god that at AFL level they do less fun stuff and more about being in the right position

 

[Us against the rest]

As an umpire myself, went up to SANFL U18s level with a few reserves and emergancy for league games (being a league emergancy is the easiest $140)
side note stopped this year due to wanting to give more time to playing

Umpires have favourite players, and 90% of errors are made from being in a poor position
But yet in umpire training (yes i dont know what its like at AFL level) is around 50% fitness, 25% fun stuff ie brain reflex's stuff, then 25% rule discussion (sometimes there iis being in the right position talked about here)

I'd hope to god that at AFL level they do less fun stuff and more about being in the right position

Port people don't bang on about umpires to much but it seem every time we get this particular umpire, you go home feeling like some one has stolen your wallet with a full weeks pay in it.

 

[Papa G]

For the AFL to make money, they need winning Melbourne clubs in the finals. Their worse case scenario is a Dockers v Power Grand Final.

Disagree with this. For minor finals it may be true, but for the grand Final you're still guaranteed to get 95k+. The AFL is not just a political animal internally, it is very much in bed with the Victorian State Government. Whilst the Vics will complain till they are red in the face about an all non Vic GF, it is very very good for the state economy. 50,000 interstaters pouring into Melbourne spending shit loads of money on accomodation, boozing etc is big bikkies for them.

On the umpiring, the one that killed me, ABSOLUTELY KILLED ME, was that holding the ball in the centre of the ground when 3 Geelong blokes got tackled and dropped the ball in a row, then the Port player gets pinged HTB. Actually got up and punched the TV.

 

[Us against the rest]

Disagree with this. For minor finals it may be true, but for the grand Final you're still guaranteed to get 95k+. The AFL is not just a political animal internally, it is very much in bed with the Victorian State Government. Whilst the Vics will complain till they are red in the face about an all non Vic GF, it is very very good for the state economy. 50,000 interstaters pouring into Melbourne spending shit loads of money on accomodation, boozing etc is big bikkies for them.

On the umpiring, the one that killed me, ABSOLUTELY KILLED ME, was that holding the ball in the centre of the ground when 3 Geelong blokes got tackled and dropped the ball in a row, then the Port player gets pinged HTB. Actually got up and punched the TV.

And i thought it was just me and my temper lol.

 

[Jonts]

Port people don't bang on about umpires to much but it seem every time we get this particular umpire, you go home feeling like some one has stolen your wallet with a full weeks pay in it.

How did you get that from what i said?

Would you rather are AFLumpire spend half of their time working on positioning or 25%

 

[Us against the rest]

How did you get that from what i said?

Would you rather are AFLumpire spend half of their time working on positioning or 25%

Sorry for not being clear. I do understand what you mean and i agree positioning is most important for an umpire. What i and others are referring to is a particular umpire, when he umpires our games, the decisions heavily favour the opposing team and some of his decisions are mind boggling. There are two teams that seem to benefit from his umpiring and when we played those two teams he was one of the umpires, they are the worst umpired games for Port this year according to most posters.

 

[Dobie G]

Wow, so used to the crows whinging about umpires every time they lose, never thought I'd see Port people carry on so much about umpires.
The game was not lost because of umpires, Geelong missed alot of easy shots, the 16 pt margin flattered us. Probably the "true" margin is closer to 35-40 pts. Geelong did deserve to win, take nothing away from that.
Jay got a soft free kick inside the 50 for a feather brush on his head, the ticky-touch decisions go to both sides.

 

[Us against the rest]

Wow, so used to the crows whinging about umpires every time they lose, never thought I'd see Port people carry on so much about umpires.
The game was not lost because of umpires, Geelong missed alot of easy shots, the 16 pt margin flattered us. Probably the "true" margin is closer to 35-40 pts. Geelong did deserve to win, take nothing away from that.
Jay got a soft free kick inside the 50 for a feather brush on his head, the ticky-touch decisions go to both sides.

As i said, a certain umpire in games. I did not say we lost because of the umpire, just that his decision making in Port games, favours the opposition to the point of being very obvious, not only to Port fans. May be you don't watch the games close enough.

 

[Oliver King]

On the umpiring, the one that killed me, ABSOLUTELY KILLED ME, was that holding the ball in the centre of the ground when 3 Geelong blokes got tackled and dropped the ball in a row, then the Port player gets pinged HTB. Actually got up and punched the TV.

Haha. I almost did the same. Except that it wasn't my TV.

 

[b0ydman]

M

It's part of the game, human error will always happen. Play on.

My Point was the first three quarters were umpired terrific.

They let it play.

But in the 4th....when it mattered, well, first the whistle came out. Why? Did someone get to them?

Then, maybe just the coin toss or bounce had it flowing one way, in just bizarre fashion.

Not just compared to the previous three quarters, but to any game the last few years.

it was just illogical, and curious
when you consider The same guy did it to freo last week, and the AFL is saying how much a crowd of 54,000 next week would again cost them, I am really left with no other conclusion....even if it is nothing other than subconscious

 

[b0ydman]

Hit

I'm annoyed at people who come on and say get over it - the title of the thread indicates it as vent against umpires if you don't like it don't read it. There are plenty of threads on big footy that i don't read because i don't agree with them. FFS if we can't have a spit and whinge on BF where can we? If we are going to be so fricken politically correct then take down all the threads abusing players, coaches, media, ... what will be left with? Let's just say tally ho and jolly good and back slaps all around

Hit the nail on the head.
This is my bathroom for my turd, in this 15 x #2's being a #30
I don't dump in other rooms of the house.
Those shutting my whine thread down risk Tue toilet overflowing into other places

 

[tribey]

Shane McInerney umpired on Friday night
Shane McInerney umpired the 38-15 Hobart Super Rugby game
Shane McInerney umpired 119
Shane McInerney umpired Essendon-Port in R23 2011

The club specifically needs to request he doesn't umpire PAFC games.

 

[Forzaport]

Shane McInerney umpired on Friday night
Shane McInerney umpired the 38-15 Hobart Super Rugby game
Shane McInerney umpired 119
Shane McInerney umpired Essendon-Port in R23 2011

The club specifically needs to request he doesn't umpire PAFC games.

It's happened too often to be mere coincidence.

 

[Peck]

Wow, so used to the crows whinging about umpires every time they lose, never thought I'd see Port people carry on so much about umpires.
The game was not lost because of umpires, Geelong missed alot of easy shots, the 16 pt margin flattered us. Probably the "true" margin is closer to 35-40 pts. Geelong did deserve to win, take nothing away from that.
Jay got a soft free kick inside the 50 for a feather brush on his head, the ticky-touch decisions go to both sides.

If you don't think Umpires affect the result of a lot of games, you need to think about it a bit more.

 

[Power Girl]

Wow, so used to the crows whinging about umpires every time they lose, never thought I'd see Port people carry on so much about umpires.
The game was not lost because of umpires, Geelong missed alot of easy shots, the 16 pt margin flattered us. Probably the "true" margin is closer to 35-40 pts. Geelong did deserve to win, take nothing away from that.
Jay got a soft free kick inside the 50 for a feather brush on his head, the ticky-touch decisions go to both sides.

I disagree with this completely. We also missed kicks regardless of umpiring. I think the score flattered Geelong as we played imo the better footy but couldn't tackle and hold them when they were getting a run on.
I think alot of people on here agree that the umpiring did not cost us the game but umpires can take away momentum and make the spectacle of good footy unwatchable. No-one believes that umpires are going to always get it right but BE CONSISTENT for god sake and don't be seen to be favouring anyone. A crappy umpire usually has crap decisions going against both teams but a bent one seems to only hurt one team.

Anyhoo time for you to leave this thread because you don't like its content and you may only alienate yourself from other BF posters who otherwise enjoy reading your other insightful posts (just not your umpiring ones)

 

[finbarr]

Shane McInerney umpired on Friday night
Shane McInerney umpired the 38-15 Hobart Super Rugby game
Shane McInerney umpired 119
Shane McInerney umpired Essendon-Port in R23 2011

The club specifically needs to request he doesn't umpire PAFC games.

This is rather alarming.

 

[Us against the rest]

M
My Point was the first three quarters were umpired terrific.

They let it play.

But in the 4th....when it mattered, well, first the whistle came out. Why? Did someone get to them?

Then, maybe just the coin toss or bounce had it flowing one way, in just bizarre fashion.

Not just compared to the previous three quarters, but to any game the last few years.

it was just illogical, and curious
when you consider The same guy did it to freo last week, and the AFL is saying how much a crowd of 54,000 next week would again cost them, I am really left with no other conclusion....even if it is nothing other than subconscious

Too true, that's how i saw too.

 

[JMint]

This is rather alarming.

Shane McInerney umpired the 38-15 Hobart Super Rugby game

This one is particularly disturbing !!

 

[tribey]

It's happened too often to be mere coincidence.

This is rather alarming.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying he's corrupt, or necessarily sets out to be anti-Port, or indeed that he cost us the result in each and every one of the examples cited.

But, in all four of these games we ranged from having a lopsided free kick count against us to more importantly, facing different interpretations from umpire to umpire, quarter to quarter, team to team, momentum shift to momentum shift.

At the very least, in each example cited the umpire in question saw the game quite differently to reality during and after the home team achieved a severe momentum shift against Port Adelaide.

There's nothing worse than seeing Port get reamed in a given period on the field, but it reaches suicidal levels when the opposing team is also getting every marginal call and are also getting away with blatant ones the other way.

These are the four games I think of most when I think of these circumstances. And in all four McInerney was a chief culprit. Maybe it's as relatively innocent as he lets the crowd get to him in pressure situations?

Either way, whenever we get him next year I won't be at all confident.

 

[JMint]

Just to clarify, I'm not saying he's corrupt, or necessarily sets out to be anti-Port, or indeed that he cost us the result in each and every one of the examples cited.

But, in all four of these games we ranged from having a lopsided free kick count against us to more importantly, facing different interpretations from umpire to umpire, quarter to quarter, team to team, momentum shift to momentum shift.

At the very least, in each example cited the umpire in question saw the game quite differently to reality during and after the home team achieved a severe momentum shift against Port Adelaide.

There's nothing worse than seeing Port get reamed in a given period on the field, but it reaches suicidal levels when the opposing team is also getting every marginal call and are also getting away with blatant ones the other way.

These are the four games I think of most when I think of these circumstances. And in all four McInerney was a chief culprit. Maybe it's as relatively innocent as he lets the crowd get to him in pressure situations?

Either way, whenever we get him next year I won't be at all confident.

Dude.

Start a "McInerney Watch" thread so we can keep track...

My state has just moved from ALERTZ... to ALARMD... as I hadn't made that connection!

 

[Dobie G]

If you don't think Umpires affect the result of a lot of games, you need to think about it a bit more.

IF the margin was closer then a ticky touch decision during the 4 quarters can influence the outcome of the game eg 50m penalties or frees/playons which affect the momentum of the game. My point is the umpires did not influence the Geelong game, we lost to a better team and live to fight again another day.
Also it would be surprising if the club could ask for specific umpire or is that in the rules somewhere?

 

[kaysee]

Dude.

Start a "McInerney Watch" thread so we can keep track...

My state has just moved from ALERTZ... to ALARMD... as I hadn't made that connection!

#30 has been bending us over since 2004 Grand Final..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_AFL_Grand_Final
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=2024


Frees
Port = 13
Brisbane = 17

Grrrrr

PS - BTW the only other GF he umpired was the 2007 one LOL... could he be a 119 difference?

 

[Peck]

IF the margin was closer then a ticky touch decision during the 4 quarters can influence the outcome of the game eg 50m penalties or frees/playons which affect the momentum of the game. My point is the umpires did not influence the Geelong game, we lost to a better team and live to fight again another day.
Also it would be surprising if the club could ask for specific umpire or is that in the rules somewhere?

We could have snatched that game in the last minute if it weren't for a stupid free kick, and there were plenty of times where momentum was stolen from us or Geelong were gifted a goal. Yes Geelong were playing better, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't have won without those decisions, football is a game where the best team does not always win, and that is how it should be.

 

[dalt]

Not that many have to make 'split second" decisions on their own without the aid of technology, even air traffic controllers have more than a second and they have technology.
You say "many people in many different jobs" -Then name me some, say ten, different occupations/jobs where a person makes a split second decision which is not reversible, on their own, without any technology and never makes any mistakes.

Police Officer
Bodyguard
Factory Line Workers
Athletes
Fighter Pilots
SAS Soldiers
Paramedics
Surgeons
Animal Handlers
Race Car Drivers

All are held accountable for their actions and may get the sack if too many mistakes are repeated.