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Simpson has got one thing right
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Hmm, surprised by that. Was going through Keys' predictions thread and saw most had picked us to win more than 11 games as well.
All I can suggest is that people were overly optimistic
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Tellingly, you do not dispute a word of my post.
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I STILL think we should be playing finals footy and I'm more than a little pissed that we aren't. Continually losing close winnable games is not coincidental. A couple of close losses and you can write it off a just footy, another couple of close losses after that and you might bemoan our bloody misfortune, after that you HAVE to cast your net wider. And its dog arse ugly from where I sit. We are well and truly into personnel, physical, organisational and process failure territory and some of that - I dont know how much - has to sit with the coach. Not the last coach. This coach.
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Geelong - Blow out never in it after 1/4 time
Fremantle - Even half way through 3rd quarter then fell away
North - Blow out never in it after 1/4 time
Hawthorn - Held our own until midway through the 2nd then got blown away
Sydney - They led almost all game we kept close until the last quarter but never really looked like winning
Richmond - Trailed all game pretty much (albeit marginally in atrocious conditions) but like Sydney
Port, Collingwood, Carlton and the second derby we were right in the game in the last quarter so I count 4 losses we could have won.
The other games we weren't close enough for long enough to consider that we were in a winning position. Within striking distance perhaps in a couple which may be your point but even still there more than two losses we were out of well before full time
Don't think your special or anything
Your view is simply different from Gunner Dargie's and you, like many other posters here, identify the deficiencies in the list but at the same time think positively and look for the positives in our list instead of the negatives.
Looking at and focusing on the negatives I'll leave to others, that sort of attitude in real life gets you nowhere. If you are desperate enough to put down others with a positive outlooks on life (and football) in an attempt to build up your self esteem then then knock yourself out!!!
Hopefully one day you might actually grow up.
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Beg to differ.Don't think your special or anything
So the view that the midfield was good enough to deliver a flag wasn't actually wrong? It was just 'different'? Subsequent events, which have exposed the midfield as inadequate, are neither here nor there?
Fridge Magnet, given you backed our current midfield to match the 2006 group – seriously, just reflect on how stupid and inaccurate that prediction was – I guess we shouldn't be too surprised that you're completely untethered from reality. Time to move the magnets around and start again.
You guys make a great team. Enjoy your little box, fashioned from deluded, unaccountable bullshit. You two can be roomies and look for the positives together.
You call it 'focusing on the positives'. I call it being unwilling to acknowledge what's actually happened.Looking at and focusing on the negatives I'll leave to others, that sort of attitude in real life gets you nowhere. If you are desperate enough to put down others with a positive outlooks on life (and football) in an attempt to build up your self esteem then then knock yourself out!!!
Whats the difference between having two Brownlow medal quality mids and having two very good A graders in a Shuey and say a Gaff? 5%>>>10%??
Go on, Fridgie. What's the difference? You've since changed your mind and decided we should trade Gaff. But tell us all about your positive outlook and how it's not wrong, just different.
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The reason big bodied mids are doing the job is in large part because of changes in the interpretation of holding the ball....ie the rule no longer exists. This is always going to favour bigger bodied mids as you can't get pinged anymore and the name of the game isnterritory and numbers at the ball.
Guarantee you under the last 100 years' proper and correct interpretation of the rule our mids would be doing alot better than they currently are.
Guarantee you under the last 100 years' proper and correct interpretation of the rule our mids would be doing alot better than they currently are.
West Coast Eagles are standing up to this blight on the game with our small-bodied-mid protest. Draft more, I say!
Point taken. Move with the times. Anyway I didn't like simpsons comment about upper body. It's all comes from your legs. Training should be 70-30 with the main focus being in deadlifts, squats and plyometric leg workouts such as box jumps.
If they want pound for pound strength and hardness upstairs they need to do some boxing training too. Throw in some plyometric work upstairs and it will make a big difference.
Point taken. Move with the times. Anyway I didn't like simpsons comment about upper body. It's all comes from your legs. Training should be 70-30 with the main focus being in deadlifts, squats and plyometric leg workouts such as box jumps.
If they want pound for pound strength and hardness upstairs they need to do some boxing training too. Throw in some plyometric work upstairs and it will make a big difference. Need to do explosive exercises. I could train thess guys better than what they arengetting currently
I have full faith in Simpson. And will continue to defend him next year when we still suck.
It takes at least a couple seasons for him to turn this gross list over and actually build something. During his 3rd year as coach i'll start looking at him more harshly.
It takes at least a couple seasons for him to turn this gross list over and actually build something. During his 3rd year as coach i'll start looking at him more harshly.
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I am starting to worry with the selections that he is choosing battlers who try hard over developing the classier kids, a but like Woosha did because they played the same way as them. I hope I'm wrong.
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Surely there has to be some improvement?
It seems strange to say in advance that you'll definitely defend him. What if we don't win a game?
Well then he'd better be starting his 3rd year with a bang, or i would be one of the harshest critics.
But there's only so much he can do with this stale club that's so resistant to 'drastic' changes.
I imagine clearing the deadwood from the list is a bit if a slow process, but i trust what he's doing.
I think Simmo is trying out the fringe players to assess whether they will be given a contract for next year. I think we will have a sprinkling of youth in the team for the remainder of the season, but I think Simmo is trying to really assess the list and weed out the weak links.
You can never have blind faith in anyone in this business. Having faith in Woosha was how we got into trouble last season. He was really not up to coaching for a number of reasons. I am very surprised we have not improved at all and possibly gone backwards given the absolute debacle of 2013. Clearing out deadwood is not a skill - anyone on this board could make a decision to cut players. Bottom line is Simpson's gameplan and approach has to start seeing results on the field. If he doesn't he is in trouble. Not saying it won't but improvement remains to be seen.
I see it as he is just trying out to see who is up to it and who isn't, us as fans have seen these spuds play week in and week out, Simpson on the other hand didn't. The problem as the moment is Mcginnity is showing more heart than one of our high paying recruits in Wellingham. This year was never going to be a pretty year and we just have to hope Simpson has learned a lot about the squad.
Some positives and Negatives so far.
Positives:
- Sheppard before injury looked to have been settled in a role in the backline and looked to be playing to his strengths.
- Brown has become a bit more versatile like Glass in his latter days in that he is able to play on smaller players. Not an A grade defender but shaping up nicely as a reliable cog to the backline.
- Bennell been given chances early and looking like he belongs out there and not some Melbourne reject like Morton was. Was disappointing to see him dropped but i have faith in Simpson that it was for a good reason.
- Pulling the pin early and putting Yeo in the midfield. It really sucks he got injured as he could have built up his role for next year.
- Rosa was having his best year to date. Looks to have bulked up and took the game on more and more.
- Shuey and Gaff having better years. Wouldn't say they have been massive but they certainly look better than last year. Gaff is taking the game and it is great to see.
- Lycetts big improvement as a ruckman.
- Mcgovern taking his chances early and looking like a quality KP player. Love that he can play dual roles and pinch hit in the ruck very important going forward.
Negatives:
- Forward line looking pretty average considering the talent in there.
- Masten looking very average this year. It is ashame as he looked pretty good last year. Rumour is he has been struggling with hammies and quads all year.
- Darling was ear marked for a mid role and was never given the chance to run with it and i think this is contributing this his form. Needs to be either played 3rd tall or go all out and use him as a mid. 4th year player who has been gunning before that so i can see him bouncing back in a big way next year.
- JK has been struggling all year but we know he is capable so i will cut him some slack. I think our forward line setup and the way we get the ball to them is a concern.
- Wellingham's attitude and i am glad Simpson has addressed this early and not next year.
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I reckon we're in for a worse year than this year, next year. The year after and onwards should be improvement. If we're still languishing at the bottom of the ladder in Simpson's last year, he will rightly get the flick.
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Those ones that the club is constantly reporting in the media that they've re-signed for another 2 seasons?
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Who falls in that category?
Perth now reported that and how would they know? Simpson has said over the last 2 weeks players are playing for their future. Of the fringe players i think Butler will be the one retained.
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Curious as to why you think next year will be worse. I'm not going to go all rainbows and lollipops and suggest we can make finals but with another preseason to work on the game plan and Simpson with a better understanding of what he has at his disposal we should look to improve on this year
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Slight exaggeration, I should have worded that better: Those ones that the club is constantly reporting in the media that they will re-sign shortly.
Every article that pops up about a signing contains such and such is unsigned and they hope to re-sign soon eg. Smith in the Rosa article.
As a side note, I wonder if it would be possible to float Gaff for a midfielder of a different stature or speed.
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Depends on how much cutting we do at the end of the year, plus with Glass and Cox gone I just naturally thought we'd do worse.
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