Injury SJOGHCIU - Will the curse be lifted in 2024? LOL, not a chance. Rinse and repeat
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The Freo training oval is apparently harder than MRP
According to one poster. Even if so I would say it's very close.
I wouldn't say what I do is called proper running anymore, but I have had a run around MRP and Optus and personally think Optus is much more of an issue. Not only is it harder but we play full games there.
Wasn't determined to be in a range that would be considered harder than normal or acceptable.
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I'm not just going off the one poster recently. They had a lot of issues with the surface when they started. I'm not sure if it has settled now but its likely very similar to MRP at least.
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Current injury list
Matt Flynn injury nothing to do with Optus
Archer Reid nothing to do with Optus
Harry Edwards broken finger nothing to do with Optus
Hewett foot was an issue before being drafted. Has played about 7-10 games at Optus
Jai Culley did his ACL at the MCG
Oscar Allen hasn’t played at Optus this year yet but has a knee issue. Is that from previously playing at Optus?
Bazzo sore groin
Dom Sheed foot hotspot could be to do with hard surfaces
Liam Ryan getting over hamstring issues which originated from an usual marking contest at Optus.
Matt Flynn injury nothing to do with Optus
Archer Reid nothing to do with Optus
Harry Edwards broken finger nothing to do with Optus
Hewett foot was an issue before being drafted. Has played about 7-10 games at Optus
Jai Culley did his ACL at the MCG
Oscar Allen hasn’t played at Optus this year yet but has a knee issue. Is that from previously playing at Optus?
Bazzo sore groin
Dom Sheed foot hotspot could be to do with hard surfaces
Liam Ryan getting over hamstring issues which originated from an usual marking contest at Optus.
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Just so it's known i'm not relating our current injury issues to Optus at all. I was just relaying that optus is harder than MRP, almost certainly the hardest main ground in Australia and has been an issue since it opened for use.
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Yeah I understand that mate I wasn’t posting anything to do with your comments.
I’m just trying to get some information (evidence) to whether our training ground actually is too hard or if we are drawing conclusions in here that might be right but also might be incorrect.
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Okay cheers mate, someone actually giving some information
.Okay cheers mate, someone actually giving some information
I'm regurgitating this from one of Pykes interviews so it's not insider knowledge as such. Which also leads me to point out imagine if the surface was deemed too hard. I don't think we'd volunteer that information, especially when we are backed into a corner of having to train and play (ressies) a full season there.
It wouldn't surprise me if they do rip it up and start again once the season is finished. Remove all doubt..
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If it was deemed too hard I don’t see why Pyke would want to hide that information.
Surely he would be on the front foot and be saying that we will be considering an upgrade of the training surface when the club is in a position to do so (end of season) we are concerned it’s too hard.
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What point are you trying to make here though? Would you think playing on rock hard burnt grass is a positive thing and likely to help? Do you think playing on burnt surface would have no impact in any way?
The grass is literally dieing on the training ground. Its never going to be a good thing
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Because Nisbett and co dont want to admit they failed is still the primary reason. (important to understand its more then just Nisbett in the firing line here)
If we ever do a review on the building of this abomination many many many people will look bad. Its a shame the same people who will look bad also decide if a review is to be done.
One of my dislikes of Pyke is he simply isnt running the club. He has become Puppet Number 2 for the incompetents at the WAFC. Unless he changes his ways no reviews are going to be done and more ass covering will occur
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Dumb Puke sitting on his hands whilst another hand goes up inside him and controls him like a puppet.
All sounds very uncomfortable.
All sounds very uncomfortable.
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It is which is why they have tons of injuries too.
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I don’t necessarily agree with that but I can see why you hold concerns, if the announcement was handled poorly it could reflect on badly on past administration.
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My point is that I was after information on whether our training grounds are actually hard or not. Whether anyone could actually give actual information on this rather than Posters such as yourself who come in here making broad statements and accusations with zero evidence to back it up.
I was at the ground on the weekend it didn’t look like the grass was literally “dying” or that they were playing on a “burnt surface.”
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Yeah it’s better now but when it was 40 odd it was burnt to a crisp.
A ton of issues we are all saying is the club isn’t transparent about this so asking for the transparent information and proof is a bit of a double edged sword. The club withhold this information. The only information we have publically is Don admitting we are testing the surface and what not. A lot of the criticism beyond that is merely what staff and players say out loud to people .
Only person who I’ve seen publicly comment on it is Elliot Yeo. Rest just isn’t told
One aspect of it really is. If the surface has no issues why is the club admitting to testing it ?
Forget in his first 30 days, there is no conceivable way a club CEO could ever come out and say that they had found a serious problem with the surface several years after opening it because if that were true it would follow that they'd in effect been sending players out to train on an unsafe ground for several years. It's not as though they just rented it out, they built mineral resources park, redeveloped the ovals, designed the facilities and if you're a West Coast player that's where you're required to go train from the day you arrive at the club until the day you retire.
The law around professional sportspeople and their employers liability is complicated, but AFL clubs definitely do not have a blanket protection against negligence actions from former players in all circumstances. If it were true there were a problem with the training ground a club had built and it could be linked to people's careers being ended or shortened, they would be staring down the barrel of some truly cataclysmic lawsuits.
And as a general proposition, private businesses don't hire consultants to produce reports which are sufficiently wide in scope to expose them to that sort of legal risk. Even having a report like that in existence would be a ticking time bomb.
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What if he wrote "I have a tiny penis and cry myself to sleep every night"?
See how their injuries occurred in the weekend?
It wasn't at their training ground...
Travel absolutely is an issue and it can be mitigated to an extent with innovations such as you’re suggesting. Rather than three games over two weeks I’d think two games over six days. (And the same for a team coming to Perth.)
If you work out how many nights away with that model compared with what occurs now it’s not so different.
We’re talking about a big money organisation. Preserving the most important asset - the players - should be paramount. Playing two games away makes it a FIFO arrangement which is not an uncommon work setup.
I’m surprised there has been no research on travelling. I can understand the AFL may be reluctant - because it may show that WA teams suffer a disadvantage - but I cannot understand why we wouldn’t initiate it.
And it may not only be the actual travel that is researched, but, for example, is there a systemic bias where non-WA players are reluctant to move to WA due to the distance? Etc.
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Wear and tear injuries that exasperate during higher intensity. Not a new phenomenon that
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