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Couldn't agree more. Especially when the first tackler can't execute a reasonable tackle / disrupt the disposal.
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I’ll take that as a concession …
32 goals for the year from him, 25 tackles inside 50. 50 tackles for the year.
Compare that to Liam Ryan’s 23 goals and 9 inside 50 tackles , 27 for the year from one less game..
One has a contract for the next two years and one doesn’t have a contract at all… no surprise who is who
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Our players - ‘in my mind, I’ve already gone’
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Wow what a great story.
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And I reckon I've seen 3 shepards for a team mate since 2020.
One thing I noticed yesterday and it's been an issue for some time is in close we harras and corral....sometimes tackle.
But what we don't do often enough is bend over, commit, put our heads over the ball and pick it up.
We seem to be too tentative and watch the opposition bend down and get the loose ball.
It's why Garcia would be a good get IMO.
We need more decent ground ball players.
But what we don't do often enough is bend over, commit, put our heads over the ball and pick it up.
We seem to be too tentative and watch the opposition bend down and get the loose ball.
It's why Garcia would be a good get IMO.
We need more decent ground ball players.
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Feel free to compare the players on afl .com
You will find these stats for a start
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Wasn’t he playing on a guy a head shorter?
You're looking at totals and Owies has played 6 more games than Ryan
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I think I'm coming around to this view.
Kelly has a lot going for him but west coast's fundamental problem is we are a dreadful clearance side - you look over the last few years and the two constants from week to week on the stats sheet are <insert oppositions best midfielder(s) name(s) here> 30+ touches, 8+ clearances - yeah we get something the other way, but it's not enough.
The other constant, of course is 'wow <insert opposition ruckman name here> had his best game for the season, dominated the clearances and gave his mids silver service.' Kelly should not be in the centre square, Bailey Williams simply shouldn't be on an AFL list. About the nicest thing you can say about him is he tries, but simply put he gets thrashed by every other starting ruckman in the competition. It's not even like he's getting beaten by experienced ruckman with great draft pedigrees, the guy utterly reaming him yesterday was a pick 50 who has played 59 games, the week before it was Xerri (55 games, off the rookie list). His contemporaries are smashing him.
Bailey strikes me as a guy who is hard worker and ripper bloke around the club so the hierarchy keep closing their eyes to the fact that he is clearly not an AFL player. Is there any ruckman in the league who hasn't had a career night against him?
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That's a whole bunch of stats that I dont really give a shit about. He had a great game against us (which I said) and is having a better season than Ryan.
If you want him in your team that's your thing, but forgive me if I don't share the same opinion as someone that won't concede that Waterman is having an outstanding season.
winning ruck taps does not make a ruckman...most of BW's ruck taps go directly to oppo players. try listing "hitouts to advantage"
Haha I know, just wanted to put some English flame in here.
I think the only people who were cheering for English was The West Australian.
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How’s the Carlton bloke coming on as sub, was probably bricking it before the game thinking he might come on 10 goals down or a close game.
Skips on ten goals up, no pressure , I knew he’d kick his first goal, ended up with a couple of chances, his goal was pretty sharp.
Skips on ten goals up, no pressure , I knew he’d kick his first goal, ended up with a couple of chances, his goal was pretty sharp.
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Bailey Williams stats against Max Gawn are crazy also if you wanna look at those over last few years. Geniunely the only ruck he can beat. Its damn strange
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Bailey needs to go full Troy Wilson and just smash through blokes.
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It could be that Bailey Williams & Tim Kelly aren’t good enough to be Ruck & midfielder. Kelly might make a useful half forward with occasional runs on the ball. They are both common denominators in several years of shite
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Bailey goes full tagger mode basically from what I could tell. He should do it more often vs the more athletic rucks.
I think hed struggle to do it that well vs the bigger bodied rucks
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