Banter The No Dazzlering Big Cricket Thread

[squashface]

What a campaigner. That was going straight to Uzzie

 

[THE A5]

Scott Boland similar career trajectory to Stuart Macgill*

Will always be a question of what he could have been if he wasn't just the backup.

*On-field only

Seems like we’ve had a few blokes over the last two decades come in to the side past thirty and really thrive. Hussey, Rogers, Harris and Voges just to name a few

 

[THE A5]

Good for cricket fans but in years gone past Australia in a situation like this with a draw needed to cement a a series victory would have dished up an absolute road.

 

[Keys]

Good for cricket fans but in years gone past Australia in a situation like this with a draw needed to cement a a series victory would have dished up an absolute road.

In years gone past Australia had a series wrapped up well before the 5th test

And in any case, we don’t have a history of preparing wickets to suit an agenda - that’s more an Indian thing

 

[Bender_]

Feels like deja vu starc playing injured and getting pumped then losing the BGT .

"Getting pumped"

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Feels like deja vu starc playing injured and getting pumped then losing the BGT .

Well Aus aren’t getting pumped, but the Starc thing is very frustrating. It’s quite well established at this point that his performance in long test series deteriorates in the later tests. He averages 41.8 in the fourth and fifth tests of a series, and this is a guy who’s been playing test cricket for nearly 15 years. This isn’t a small sample size issue, he just tires as the series goes on. I don’t blame him for that or anything; some guys’ bodies will just hold up worse under the continued bowling strain than others. It’s not like Australia has had the big three and then a pile of crap; at various times throughout the past decade there have been excellent domestic quicks like Pattinson, Jhye, Boland, Neser, Paris and so on.

I can’t imagine that an organisation as large and well-funded as CA don’t know that Starc gets worse as the series goes on, so I assume they keep selecting him in these situations out of some misguided sense of loyalty, or because they can’t grasp that the best bowler overall may not be necessarily be the best bowler for the next test.

 

[Feeling Groovy]

Well Aus aren’t getting pumped, but the Starc thing is very frustrating. It’s quite well established at this point that his performance in long test series deteriorates in the later tests. He averages 41.8 in the fourth and fifth tests of a series, and this is a guy who’s been playing test cricket for nearly 15 years. This isn’t a small sample size issue, he just tires as the series goes on. I don’t blame him for that or anything; some guys’ bodies will just hold up worse under the continued bowling strain than others. It’s not like Australia has had the big three and then a pile of crap; at various times throughout the past decade there have been excellent domestic quicks like Pattinson, Jhye, Boland, Neser, Paris and so on.

I can’t imagine that an organisation as large and well-funded as CA don’t know that Starc gets worse as the series goes on, so I assume they keep selecting him in these situations out of some misguided sense of loyalty, or because they can’t grasp that the best bowler overall may not be necessarily be the best bowler for the next test.

His record at the SCG is also pretty ordinary. That may be tied into the above but its not like it's his best ground to bowl at even if it is his home deck.

 

[Keys]

It’s telling that our best bowler in this test, Bowland, has done the least amount of bowling whilst Bumrah is now also a fitness concern for the Indians

Runs on the board are going to be crucial which is why ep2018 is correct in saying it was an important toss to win

Rather be India than us right now even if Bumrah isn’t fit to bowl or is below his best if he does

 

[Keys]

This popped up on my twitter feed

That’s a really shit way to get out and tbh, if that’s the rules they should be changed. Don’t think you should be out for that

 

[Bender_]

This popped up on my twitter feed

That’s a really shit way to get out and tbh, if that’s the rules they should be changed. Don’t think you should be out for that

LOL next up peg it at the batters head, he dives out of the way, wickie catches it stumps him.

 

[Godfather32]

LOL next up peg it at the batters head, he dives out of the way, wickie catches it stumps him.

Bonus points if it's us doing it to Bairstow

 

[Dazzler9]

This popped up on my twitter feed

That’s a really shit way to get out and tbh, if that’s the rules they should be changed. Don’t think you should be out for that

Hard disagree. Get back in your crease. Cop the blow if you have to, but that's every bit as legit as the Bairstow thing last year. (EDIT: year before)

 

[Bender_]

Hard disagree. Get back in your crease. Cop the blow if you have to, but that's every bit as legit as the Bairstow thing last year. (EDIT: year before)

Ahh yeah, I didn't see the slow motion replay properly the first time, thought his back foot was in when jumped the ball. Legal, yet hilarious.

 

[Dazzler9]

Ahh yeah, I didn't see the slow motion replay properly the first time, thought his back foot was in and when jumped the ball.

The laws were changed to make that scenario not out.

 

[Bender_]

Bonus points if it's us doing it to Bairstow

Spirit of the Game Bonus

 

[Keys]

Hard disagree. Get back in your crease. Cop the blow if you have to, but that's every bit as legit as the Bairstow thing last year. (EDIT: year before)

Yeah that’s my bad for not watching the side on replay closely enough

I’d thought he was always standing inside his crease which wasn’t the case

Batter’s fault for not grounding anything

 

[MrWoollie]

In years gone past Australia had a series wrapped up well before the 5th test

And in any case, we don’t have a history of preparing wickets to suit an agenda - that’s more an Indian thing

True enough.

Australian pitches are generally very consistent per venue. A bit of variability due to the weather in the prep phase, but you pretty well know what you're going to get at each venue.

Sydney was never going to be a road. I don't think the soil can hold together for 5 days anyway.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

It’s telling that our best bowler in this test, Bowland, has done the least amount of bowling whilst Bumrah is now also a fitness concern for the Indians

Runs on the board are going to be crucial which is why ep2018 is correct in saying it was an important toss to win

Rather be India than us right now even if Bumrah isn’t fit to bowl or is below his best if he does

A lot of people will argue that Boland should have been in from the start, but I think it’s a better argument for rotating in quicks during long (4-5 test) series rather than just sticking with your top 3-4 for every match. Look at Krishna in this match; looked very lively and took 3/42 in the first innings. Unless you’ve got a Bumrah or in-their-prime McGrath or Curtly Ambrose, who are so clearly better than the best quick who was left out, I feel like it’s better to rotate 5 bowlers through 3 spots than it is to just go with your top 3 for every match as long as they are fit.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

This popped up on my twitter feed

That’s a really shit way to get out and tbh, if that’s the rules they should be changed. Don’t think you should be out for that

I love the ghetto old-school red light/green light so much.

 

[Dazzler9]

Side note: trust England (Barmy Army) to think that a dismissal is bizarre when the ball hits the stumps and the batsman is out of his crease.

 

[ioppolo]

Steve Harmison got someone out the same way about 20 years ago. Might've even been Pakistani.

 

[wce4premiership]

Smith dropping these catches (the one at Gabba as well for India to avoid the follow on) could be series defining.

He has to bat big in the 4th innings to make up for this.

I strangely feel like India are slight favourites here considering we need 4 to get still and Jadeja can get runs if we keep giving him lives.

However the beauty of it moving quickly is that we won't be batting on a 5th day pitch.

 

[Dazzler9]

Sydney have rolled out roads for years. And then finally when we needed one, we get this sh*t-heap.

When other countries are so blatant with their pitch preparation, and getting away with it, we are only hurting ourselves by not following suit.

 

[RookiePick]

India have the whip hand for sure. Rishabh may well have won them the test with his blazing innings.

Need to knock them over as cheaply as possible in the morning. Smith getting in Usman's way may well spell disaster.

Likely need half our top 6 to hang around for decent scores to be any chance, which on present data is improbable.

This one smacks of Perth 2.0 which is a pretty lame way for the series to go as we have been the better overall side whilst India have been getting along on Bumrah being all-time as much as anything.

 

[DorothyG]

Is that one of those bogus Pakistan leagues that are just around for betting/match fixing? I mean one guy has strapping tape blocking out his number!?