The Otherworldly Circus - The America Thread

[Bald Headed Flog]

He literally endorsed Trump the day before the election.

He very, very clearly was supporting Trump, and has been for months. The formal endorsement (after soft-endorsing him for months) came the day before, but that was a formality.

 

[Pugz89]

He very, very clearly was supporting Trump, and has been for months. The formal endorsement (after soft-endorsing him for months) came the day before, but that was a formality.

If you say so, but if she can't handle a long form chat with someone you say opposes her, then how the hell is she going to be US president? 60 million eyeballs on her is worth the risk i'd have thought.

 

[Bald Headed Flog]

If you say so, but if she can't handle a long form chat with someone you say opposes her, then how the hell is she going to be US president? 60 million eyeballs on her is worth the risk i'd have thought.

Addressed that in another comment. Only 16% of voters who listen to JRE (which is only a portion of that hypothetical 60 million given his international reach) are undecided. It's not 60 million potential voters, so nowhere near the potential benefit as it may seem.

Given how comfortably Trump won, I really don't think her going on JRE would have had any meaningful impact. She would still have gotten flogged

 

[King Harold]

Greeting all , these are my new mates ( all now Bulldog supporters)
Good news , they have never heard of Trump !
See ya all in about 5 Years

 

[Pugz89]

Addressed that in another comment. Only 16% of voters who listen to JRE (which is only a portion of that hypothetical 60 million given his international reach) are undecided. It's not 60 million potential voters, so nowhere near the potential benefit as it may seem.

Given how comfortably Trump won, I really don't think her going on JRE would have had any meaningful impact. She would still have gotten flogged

16% of 30 million (lets say half of all listeners are Americans who can vote) is still 4.8 million votes she had access to.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Something I find very interesting. Trump isn't more popular now, than he was at the previous election. At this point in time, he actually has around two million votes less than last time.

If someone said, Trump would have two million less votes this election. You would have thought more confidently that the Democrats would have gotten up. But here is the thing, they themselves got a massive near 14 million less votes, at this point in time, compared to the previous election.

I have always said, Democrats have always had more voters in general these days, whether they win or lose these days, actually comes down to turn out from their own base.

In fact, for all the talk of record registrations, and record lines at the voting locations etc. Around 15-16 million people less voted yesterday. Which makes it all more interesting. Why did those 15 million people not vote in the most hotly and important election in many years? And for all the registered voters, and so called record this and that, where did all those votes go? It seems political pollsters massive over estimated, or exaggerated the turn out. Perhaps Covid played a part as well with more people likely off work and free to vote etc.

 

[Royale]

If you know Joe Rogan, he supported Bernie Sanders in 2016.

But to clarify why Kamala didn't go on Rogan..

Harris's team reached out to Rogan when they found out Trump was going to be on. But she didn't want to spend the time to make the trip to his podcast studio.

 

[Pugz89]

Something I find very interesting. Trump isn't more popular now, than he was at the previous election. At this point in time, he actually has around two million votes less than last time.

If someone said, Trump would have two million less votes this election. You would have thought more confidently that the Democrats would have gotten up. But here is the thing, they themselves got a massive near 14 million less votes, at this point in time, compared to the previous election.

I have always said, Democrats have always had more voters in general these days, whether they win or lose these days, actually comes down to turn out from their own base.

In fact, for all the talk of record registrations, and record lines at the voting locations etc. Around 15-16 million people less voted yesterday. Which makes it all more interesting. Why did those 15 million people not vote in the most hotly and important election in many years? And for all the registered voters, and so called record this and that, where did all those votes go? It seems political pollsters massive over estimated, or exaggerated the turn out. Perhaps Covid played a part as well with more people likely off work and free to vote etc.

2020 was a complete outlier for voting. In 2012, Obama won with 65M, in 2016 Trump won with 62M (Clinton had 65M), 2020 Biden won with 81M (Trump 74M), and 2024 Trump won with what is looking like around 72M (Harris has around 68M). So DNC votes have been 65M, 65M, 81M and 68M, yet somehow Biden polled 81 million? (Nothing suss...)

Mail in voting in 2020 was the big spike, and it was an option again in 2024, but I think it would be interesting to assess why it was down.

Were DNC voters disenfranchised by the candidate flip just a few months out from the polls, despite Biden winning the Democratic Primary?

Were they just politically disengaged from this cycle?

Have both sides experienced a drop in voters, but the GOP decrease was covered by some swing voters who voted DNC in 2020?

 

[wayniac]

My posts have been sparing in this thread and will continue to be so

Just think anyone who has been found guilty of rape in a court of law (and been accused by many other women) really should be exempt from public office through the court of public decency.

How future generations make sense of such a man being elected as the President of the United States (amongst his many other faults) is hard to imagine.

Mind boggling that's where they're at.

Genuinely sad times

Bill Clinton says hello. Precedent set and JFK was no saint. Democrats 2 Trump 1 and there's Edward Kennedy, long term Democrat senator who got away with culpable homicide. So the genuinely sad times started before you were born. Going back to FDR, he had Lucy Mercer Rutherfurd as a long time mistress. Eleanor Roosevelt got back at him by taking her own lover.

Boggle all you like, keep your newly discovered prudery, nothings going to change.

I never knew FDR was a cripple until I visited the Roosevelt mansion on the Hudson, there was his wheelchair behind his desk. It was small enough for audiences not to see. Despite his flaws, he was a truly great man and he saved the UK from annihilation. His biography brought a tear to my eyes.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill forged a bond that surmounted what seemed an unsurmountable enemy and saved the world. In his eulogy to the president, the British prime minister said, "In FDR there died the greatest American friend we have ever known.”