Opinion The Rebuild Thread

[Azul]

Disagree, looking at the list we have to go for best available. We've got holes all over the place, and this is an ageing list.

A 2-for-1 deal could be a plan.

e.g.

• if we expect a player like Lever to still be available at pick 14, give Port Adelaide/Fremantle/Sydney etc our pick 6 plus a youngster wanting to return home.
• The much discussed GWS list trimming of trading a top 10 pick for 2 players originally chosen in the teens.

i.e. one superlative a-grader taken at pick 6 isn't necessarily better in the long run than two 150 game players.

 

[CrippsonBlue]

To be a premiership team I reckon you need 5 A graders, 10 B graders and 10 C graders... A grade I would call possible All Australian calibre, top 50 in the comp..

Currently I would say that we have
A Grade - Murphy, Gibbs, Henderson, Yarran, Thomas
B Grade - Buckley, Curnow, Jamison, Menzel, Everitt, Simpson, Garlett. Kreuzer, Robinson, Docherty
C Grade - Walker, Bell, Casboult, Cripps, Rowe, Tuohy, Warnock, White
D Grade - McLean, Carrazzo, Waite, Armfield, Giles, Lucas, McInnes, Watson

Based on potential, I think the above is not unrealistic in which case we already meet your criteria without further additions. Discounting Giles, the D grade to me are shot (with Walker being close also). This is the area you cut to create space to attempt to shore up other grades.

Judd brings out the best in those around him and I think there's a correlation in the number of players having dropped in form this year without having benefited from the influence of Judd. We really need him to go on one more year and stay on the park as much as possible to influence those around him. Maybe I have rose-coloured glasses but I think there is a lot of potential still with this list yet it means removing some of those C/D grade players who have limited this team for years.

 

[gbatman]

from what I heard, Melbourne is chasing him... and with Jonno Brown retiring, it looks like Brisbane is going to chase him as well.

If he somehow managed to fall to our first round pick (and we havent traded it out for a GWS kiddie), I would hope that we jump all over him. He seriously looks like a ready to go forward.

Could he also be that ever elusive, highly valuable player who can play a bit of ruck as well? Sounds like we'd either have to "tank" like mad or get lucky with a trade to snare him.

 

[Blugazi]

Have a crack at John Butcher.

 

[etsal1]

Interesting re Melbourne letting Frawley go and getting a top 4 draft pick an it "could use the spare $800,000 in salary cap space to offer an uncontracted tall like Sam Rowe, Matt Spangher or Levi Casboult $1 million over three years to hold up an end and still save money on the deal"

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...ion-to-the-draft/story-e6frf3e3-1226965414995

I love how Daisy's price rises weekly & more importantly, Ralphy is actually confident of Richmond jumping Melbourne.

 

[gbatman]

Have a crack at John Butcher.

What's happened with him? Looked like he was going to be a player a few years ago. Highly rated junior.

 

[etsal1]

What's this Peter Wright like? Anyone been watching the U18s? Seems impressive from what I've read. If we could get our hands on a big guy like this you'd be tempted to promote Wood and trade on Warnock and Kreuzer for draft picks. Might be just the thing the club needs, especially if he turned out good and you happened to pick up two good players with the picks you got.

From the little I have seen & heard, Peter Wright seems like an inbetweener to me. He wants to play ruck (he said in an interview) but has to play forward given his team has too many rucks. Whilst he is big & strong and therefore out bodies his opponents at the moment, he doesn't come across as a pure KPF. I think we need to pick a pure KPF or KPD. Not another in-between type.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

You are going to have to keep us updated with this kid.

I reckon that we need to look at trying to get either an established (read GWS) tall forward or getting a ready to go one out of the draft. I think that we also need to stop using the rookie draft for picking up mids and start using that exclusively as a repository for tall forwards and defenders. We need to use the rookie draft to get some project talls, see how they go on the list for a year... if they dont work out, cut them and if they look ok, give them another year.

Get the best available tall forward (if we dont end up trading our first round pick for a GWS kiddy) with either our first or second round pick and go for mids with the rest of our picks.

Interesting that many of the Port faithful have him ahead of John Butcher in the pecking order already.
I wonder what it would take to get the boy from Maffra to cross the 90 mile desert?

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Interesting re Melbourne letting Frawley go and getting a top 4 draft pick an it "could use the spare $800,000 in salary cap space to offer an uncontracted tall like Sam Rowe, Matt Spangher or Levi Casboult $1 million over three years to hold up an end and still save money on the deal"

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...ion-to-the-draft/story-e6frf3e3-1226965414995

Great. Cas starts to show a bit and Ralph starts shopping him around. Just STFU.

 

[BluesMan]

What's happened with him? Looked like he was going to be a player a few years ago. Highly rated junior.

Cant kick. Do not want.

 

[thylacine60]

What's happened with him? Looked like he was going to be a player a few years ago. Highly rated junior.

Did his groin, loin and ribs.

 

[Dramoth]

Disagree, looking at the list we have to go for best available. We've got holes all over the place, and this is an ageing list.

Quite frankly, we've gone full circle back to 2007.

This is true... but considering our complete and utter lack of quality tall depth, I feel that we would be better suited chasing a tall early and then chasing mids for the rest of the ND and going tall again in the rookie draft. Like I said... no more chasing mids with the rookie draft.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Have a crack at John Butcher.

John Butcher may have slipped behind Mason Shaw in the pecking order already.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Did his groin, loin and ribs.

Greek BBQ @ Aphrodite's place

 

[thylacine60]

 

[Dramoth]

Greek BBQ @ Aphrodite's place

IT can bring the beers... and the verve for Aph

 

[The Flying Doormat]

IT can bring the beers... and the verve for Aph

anyone for Fava beans and Chianti?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Please remember where you are.

Sssh ... it's another sleeper, presumably one that only C4 will get given it was his reference.

 

[mikeythemoocow]

I cant belive we are paying Thomas two million a season

I love how Daisy's price rises weekly & more importantly, Ralphy is actually confident of Richmond jumping Melbourne.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

I cant belive we are paying Thomas two million a season

haha every time I go to the footy there's some bozo opposition supporter yelling "yeah you're really worth $(x) aren't you daisy!"

Last time we were up to $800k.

 

[ferrisb]

Don't be ridiculous.

ODN, do you have a cousin named Larry?

 

[FoeverBlues]

What's happened with him? Looked like he was going to be a player a few years ago. Highly rated junior.

a poor man Casboult - Mark well but kick like last year Casbout

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Isn't Mason Shaw from WA?

do we think we could lure him from Port? I assume Freo would be allllllll over him.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Age said today that us, Doggies and even Hawks are into Jaschk

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

ODN, do you have a cousin named Larry?

Yes, but up until recently we were perfect strangers.