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[MWPP]

agree, I don't think an Admin has to be on everyday to do the role, I decided to ask KP so instead of people speculating about what they think is right, we would get it from the horses mouth so to speak - reality instead of opinion

He phoned it in for the first season and a half of his second stint mate, I think we can survive if the Admin goes missing for a day or two....

And in turn, this is why I tagged in mang to find out if he's the one continuing his role. Mang has done a great job, and that's why we were able to get away with an admin who was absent during periods of his tenure.

Compare that with the Ant Bear era

 

[manangatang]

manangatang have you confirmed that you will continue in your 2IC role? Apologies if you have and I missed it

It’s not for me to decide, as the role’s presence would be totally up to the admin (and if they do want a 2IC role at all, it’s their choice who they want to work with).

 

[Senor M]

Senor M brought this up a couple of days ago, i don't think you are giving Elton Johns Wig enough credit. If he put in for the job he'll give it 100%.

Wigs has spoken to a few people and I will let him answer as to who and why, but I am responding because I am someone who has offered to help him as in running or setting up events if he gets the job.


edit: I am not going to be 2IC, just someone to lean on with some of the work load

Should we be concerned that two of Elton Johns Wig ’s current team mates are responding on his behalf?

It’s not an Old Boys bid, it’s an EJW bid.

 

[Robertio]

Should we be concerned that two of Elton Johns Wig ’s current team mates are responding on his behalf?

It’s not an Old Boys bid, it’s an EJW bid.

And this is an open forum dickhead.

 

[MWPP]

It’s not for me to decide, as the role’s presence would be totally up to the admin (and if they do want a 2IC role at all, it’s their choice who they want to work with).

I tagged you in as the incumbent , plus EJW specifically named you earlier. Anyway, useful to know that you haven't ruled yourself out . Still, I'll wait to hear back from EJW .

Look, I would love to have the assistance of @manangatang if I were successful

 

[Senor M]

And this is an open forum dickhead.

Nice melt— surprised you need to use insults to talk this early in the morning.

As an open forum I’m pointing out that a candidate who is mostly being supported by his current club mates might struggle to transition to a league focused role.

 

[Tigerturbulance]

Should we be concerned that two of Elton Johns Wig ’s current team mates are responding on his behalf?

It’s not an Old Boys bid, it’s an EJW bid.

 

[manangatang]

I tagged you in as the incumbent , plus EJW specifically named you earlier. Anyway, useful to know that you haven't ruled yourself out . Still, I'll wait to hear back from EJW .

Yeah I’m open to it, is probably the most direct we can be. But admins might find someone even better than me (or might not even want my role), so I probably shouldn’t be considered a factor in who clubs want to vote for in the admin role.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Nice melt— surprised you need to use insults to talk this early in the morning.

As an open forum I’m pointing out that a candidate who is mostly being supported by his current club mates might struggle to transition to a league focused role.

I wouldn’t struggle at all.

 

[Robertio]

Nice melt— surprised you need to use insults to talk this early in the morning.

As an open forum I’m pointing out that a candidate who is mostly being supported by his current club mates might struggle to transition to a league focused role.

Your teammate brought up a valid point and i gave her my opinion, democracy isn't it great.

 

[Headless]

As an open forum I’m pointing out that a candidate who is mostly being supported by his current club mates

Source? Are you referring to a couple of specific posts? Very small sample size if so. Think it's pretty clear that Wig is very well supported across the league, and rightfully so.

 

[MWPP]

Would any of the candidates be happy to 2IC if fail in the vote count ?

Following on from this excellent original question (which I am keen to hear the answer to):

DenieD Elton Johns Wig Jabba73 Pickitt , if you are successful, and hypothetically were told that you must pick
one of the other contenders as your 2IC, who would you pick and why?

 

[Callums_Guns]

Yeah I’m open to it, is probably the most direct we can be. But admins might find someone even better than me (or might not even want my role), so I probably shouldn’t be considered a factor in who clubs want to vote for in the admin role.

Some might see your role as an apprenticeship to the top role which you’ve done a brilliant job but you’ve also completed now for 2 terms which I was surprised not to see your name up this campaign

Would you be willing to help mentor either 1 of the admins that don’t get up into the 2IC role or even someone new if the Admin chooses ?

Be brilliant to see any of the candidates learn the role under your guidance even Bangers, Falcon, Serial just to name a few

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

Did someone say media ?

People want more camels ?



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I think you misheard. They said they want more Kamahl.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

Yes.

As already stated, I believe that threads in the media need a chance to grow and thrive without being killed off by the first complaint of some tenuous link to a previous thread from 20 seasons ago. The people will keep the good threads going and the other ones will die off of their own accord. Continuously rubbishing attempts at media discourages further attempts and should be called out for the self-serving crap that it is.

Have any examples?

 

[Barrybran]

On the absence stuff, remember this is just a hobby. Some of us have nothing better to do while some of us have lives off the internet. I concur with ND's suggestion that an admin could not be around for half the week and not miss much.

Once everything is running, the admin's role is pretty much to make sure the sim/ladder/match threads are ticking over and that's it. The bulk of the admin's role is preseason and awards season.

 

[manangatang]

Some might see your role as an apprenticeship to the top role which you’ve done a brilliant job but you’ve also completed now for 2 terms which I was surprised not to see your name up this campaign

Would you be willing to help mentor either 1 of the admins that don’t get up into the 2IC role or even someone new if the Admin chooses ?

Be brilliant to see any of the candidates learn the role under your guidance even Bangers, Falcon, Serial just to name a few

I never saw my role as that. I didn’t really need to have an apprenticeship when I originally ran for admin - I’d been in the league long enough.

My reasons for not going for admin again are my own, but needless to say that my time working with KP wasn’t done with any intention of running for admin.

As for mentoring, I’m not sure I have more or less usefulness than a bunch of other experienced folk around this league. My inbox has always been open to anyone who wants advice or help, so it’d be no different moving forward.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Would any of the candidates be happy to 2IC if fail in the vote count ?

Myself, probably not. I would focus on the OOBs and remain an advocate in the committee, which I enjoy. I note my 3-4 day absences haven’t been much of an issue in there, just by the by.
It was something I chatted with Tigerturbulance about re it meaning I would have less time at the club. Turbo does a power of work and I wanted to be sure he was ok with me stepping out for a while.

Following on from this excellent original question (which I am keen to hear the answer to):

DenieD Elton Johns Wig Jabba73 Pickitt , if you are successful, and hypothetically were told that you must pick
one of the other contenders as your 2IC, who would you pick and why?

Hypothetically, Jabba73

He seems more across the detail. And even though I don’t agree with everything he says, he’s got the passion for it, no doubt.

 

[MWPP]

Hypothetically, Jabba73

He seems more across the detail. And even though I don’t agree with everything he says, he’s got the passion for it, no doubt.

Thanks for answering this one.

I’ll await the response to my earlier question of who your 2IC will be (if not limited to one of the other candidates) though.

 

[TedDougChris]

I think you misheard. They said they want more Kamahl.

Does this round change its mind every few days ????

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

If people are serious about the issue that me being less available for 3-4 day blocks being a problem, vote for someone else.

The rubbish about me “going missing” is old hat. What season did I win the beez? S32/33?

I haven’t been missing since before that. I’ve been a constant since my time at the Furies through to being active every season at the OOBs.

And as to who my helper/2IC will be, I’m not sure it’s that relevant tbh. It’s not like I’m going to pick someone who is an idiot or inexperienced.

They would be available in the rare blocks that I’m not. They’re not proposing policy, or changing rules, or launching expansion bids, or folding clubs. They’re there to make sure the place still runs.

I’ll hope to confirm shortly, but you’re not voting for a 2IC, you’re voting for me.

 

[manangatang]

I don’t think KP even mentioned who his 2IC would be until after being chosen for admin, from memory. So there’s no real rush.

 

[Headless]

I don’t think KP even mentioned who his 2IC would be until after being chosen for admin, from memory. So there’s no real rush.

I don't really think it should impact whether the candidate is deemed suitable or not, either. In my view, they're suitable or they're not when viewed standalone, because the 2IC role isn't even guaranteed. I think EJW is suitable.

EDIT: Missed Wig's post above, but yeah, basically that.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Kennedy Parker as the current Admin, what do you think is the reality of how present the Admin has to be to fulfil the job e.g. must be on everyday, every few days, only when PM or has to deliver a event etc

On the absence stuff, remember this is just a hobby. Some of us have nothing better to do while some of us have lives off the internet. I concur with ND's suggestion that an admin could not be around for half the week and not miss much.

Once everything is running, the admin's role is pretty much to make sure the sim/ladder/match threads are ticking over and that's it. The bulk of the admin's role is preseason and awards season.

Baz is spot on.

Bulk of the work will be done in the pre-season and at the end of the season.

Pre-season its the fixtures, the rule changes, the rostering of simmers, match thread posters etc

Award-season organising teams to do write ups, graphics for different awards, commencing committee discussion on awards, etc

during the season, assuming you’ve done the set up work at the start of the season and everyone knows what they see doing, things can be on autopilot until something out of the ordinary happens. So brief absences aren’t too big a deal.

If there is an “emergency “ and the admin is absent, the admin should set out clear plans and instructions for the committee on how to act in such an event at the start of the season e.g. an appointed GM/2IC will be acting admin, the committee will convene for a discussion and vote and admin will sign off on it afterwards etc

Most admins would have their own projects/initiatives to promote engagement and enjoyment in the league beyond just ‘keeping things running’ like special events and stuff but that’s mostly up to the individual admin and their priorities so commitment to that will vary.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

RE: GM

The GM role is mainly to mitigate the risk that IRL situations change which take the admin away from the site.

There are several ways you can manage the same risk, you can have several subject matter experts to turn to in the absence of an admin e.g. if there’s an issue with the sim and the admin ain’t around you can contact person x, or if there’s a dispute with rules contact person y, or you could have a standard protocol for the committee / sim team to follow

For me it made sense just to have a single person to back me up and manangatang was the obvious choice being experienced with a very solid body of work, universally respected, measured and cool, and we’re on the same page with 80-90% of views on the league I think

For someone else, a different model might be more appropriate