The Worst Trade Ever

[Furn2]

Hawthorn gave up favourite son Trent Croad and Luke McPharlin to Fremantle in late 2001. In return the Hawks received picks 1, 20 and 36.

Pick 1 turns into Luke Hodge and pick 36 is Sam Mitchell, with pick 20 Daniel Elstone. Hodge and Elstone are still friends and business partners.

Hodge and Mitchell went on to captain four flags in eight years between them, with Hawthorn getting back Croad as a 2008 premiership player.

You cant really count the players the picks pick up though.

Croad was a 21 year old pick 3 who so far had been nothing but a dominant force for his age.

Croad wasn't a terrible trade for pick 1 at the time but i think it shows you shouldn't chase players that aren't asking to come to you.

 

[Rob]

Why did they 'have' to be traded?

Lloyd wasn't a trade - he was a compensation selection because Freo took Ridley as a free agent. The ironic thing about it all was that Freo was the only team in the league that couldn't pick Lloyd up - he was 16 at the time and could only be picked up by teams that lost uncontracted players to Freo.
Lucas was drafted by Essendon, he wasn't part of a trade.

 

[Admiral Byng]

Fremantle's treatment of Mcleod was hilariously bad. Neesham single-handedly cost them one of the games all time greats.

Any player doing the same today would be lost to game and excluded for draft tampering. The rules were changed after the McLeod affair so nobody could ever refuse to go to the club that drafted them.

.. and the compo system was changed to make sure the Lloyd situation would not happen again when other new clubs were added. It was too generous.

 

[estibador]

Why did they 'have' to be traded?

They weren't even actually ours to trade. They were compensation picks handed out afterwards by the AFL to clubs we picked up uncontracted players from.

And not just any old picks either, they allowed other clubs to pick up the seven best 16 years olds in the country a year before they were supposed to be in the draft.

So it actually doubly screwed us over, because one of our only start up concessions was the #1 pick at the end of our first year, but because the best talent had already been pillaged as underagers that 'number 1 pick' actually ended up being pick 8.

 

[Deep]

They weren't even actually ours to trade. They were compensation picks handed out afterwards by the AFL to clubs we picked up uncontracted players from.

And not just any old picks either, they allowed other clubs to pick up the seven best 16 years olds in the country a year before they were supposed to be in the draft.

So it actually doubly screwed us over, because one of our only start up concessions was the #1 pick at the end of our first year, but because the best talent had already been pillaged as underagers that 'number 1 pick' actually ended up being pick 8.

So out of all the non Vic clubs coming into the comp basically you guys were screwed hardest upon entry?

 

[estibador]

So out of all the non Vic clubs coming into the comp basically you guys were screwed hardest upon entry?

Pretty much. We came in on the back of two eagles premierships with the whole comp paranoid that they'd been given too much and determined to stop another 'western superpower' being born.

Our entire draft concession were:

1st year - picks 1 and 4
2nd year - pick 1 (actually pick 8 after the underage compo picks from the previous year)

 

[estibador]

I don't think Port got much either, but because they were already an established club who knew they were joining the next year they were able to convince a bunch of SA kids to stay out of the draft the year before and be listed as foundation selections.

 

[Deep]

Pretty much. We came in on the back of two eagles premierships with the whole comp paranoid that they'd been given too much and determined to stop another 'western superpower' being born.

Our entire draft concession were:

1st year - picks 1 and 4
2nd year - pick 1 (actually pick 8 after the underage compo picks from the previous year)

That's actually shit. Couldn't say East and South Freo forget the rivalry and had merged instead?

 

[footyfan1978]

So out of all the non Vic clubs coming into the comp basically you guys were screwed hardest upon entry?

Brisbane Bears by the length of Bass Strait.
Any Freo or other supporter of other expansion franchises suggesting they got worse concessions are biased and blind to the truth of what went on.

 

[Smalls0304]

Of recent years the Carlton and GWS deal looks a tad ordinary, Jacksch and Boekhorst for pick 7 effectively.

Man i know! watching Ahern play week in, week out really hurts, always thinking WHAT IF?

 

[Powerstufff]

Gillham Fotherington-Smyth traded by University to Collingwood in 1909 for a broken gramophone. This after John Wren asked University's then president how long he thought a man could survive without a liver.

 

[footyfan1978]

Source ?

 

[Powerstufff]

Source ?

Possibly imaginary. Just trying to get past this thing where someone asks about the worst trade ever but no-one really even tries to go past about 20 years back.

 

[Great8]

Any player doing the same today would be lost to game and excluded for draft tampering. The rules were changed after the McLeod affair so nobody could ever refuse to go to the club that drafted them.

.. and the compo system was changed to make sure the Lloyd situation would not happen again when other new clubs were added. It was too generous.

Didn’t Chad Wingard tell interstate clubs he would sit out of football if drafted by them and that he would only stay in Adelaide?

 

[Powerstufff]

Didn’t Chad Wingard tell interstate clubs he would sit out of football if drafted by them and that he would only stay in Adelaide?

No.
He wasn't interested in leaving SA long-term. Anyone from elsewhere would have got the 1st 2 years then would have had to gamble on changing his mind.

 

[Anja_Nees]

North wound up picking Daniel Wells and Kris Shore (who?) with picks 2 and 18 respectively.

Wells left North last year and in return using their compensation pick they got Josh Williams.

Even today the fruits of Carey's indiscretions continue to benefit North. And for how much longer?

Similarly, after we took Ward with the Jordan McMahon compo, we were given the pick that netted us Jack Macrae when Ward left. The McMahon trade continues to pay dividends.

 

[Rich01]

Similarly, after we took Ward with the Jordan McMahon compo, we were given the pick that netted us Jack Macrae when Ward left. The McMahon trade continues to pay dividends.

And for Richmond as well.
That goal he kicked after the siren in the Melbourne tank game the Dees an extra compo pick. With Scully and Trengove the two standouts in the draft, they picked the pair, leaving Richmond to select future Brownlow, Norm Smith Medalist and Premiership player in Dustin Martin.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Nankervis was rubbish for us as well, maybe his play style didn't suit Horse's gameplan?

This is the "worst trade ever" thread. Nankervis rates a mention in light of Sydneys remaining ruck options

 

[Tom_Thumb]

If its not Jack Anthony then it has to be Colin Sylivia.

 

[estibador]

If its not Jack Anthony then it has to be Colin Sylivia.

A PSD pick and a FA.

Nice try though.

 

[footyfan1978]

Candidates from 1990's.

Fremantle give up pick 4 for Todd Delaney.

Fremantle gave up Jeff Farmer for Phil Gilbert.

Fremantle gave up pick 3 and Phil Matera for David Hynes

Amusingly pick 3 Eagles used for Darren Fewster and in 1999 Fremantle gave up pick 16 for him

Hawks gave up Darren Jarman for pick 25-- Daniel Chick

Port gave up pick 1 and 24 for Ian Downsborough

Richmond gave up pick 8 for Craig Biddiscombe

Carlton gave up pick 16 and 46 for O'Reilly

St.Kilda give up Australian Sporting Hall of Farmer Tony Lockett in his prime for pick 5, 14, 48, Joshua Kitchen + Robert Neill + Glenn Nugent

 

[Kerleys Ghost]

We traded pick 2 and 18 for Wayne Carey in 2002.

Ouch.

But Mcleod for Groom is absolutely the worst trade in my lifetime.

 

[windyhill]

Oh my God people, for the 876th time, Freo never had Lloyd, never had access to Lloyd, never gave Lloyd up. This fact that misses hundreds of posters is nearly as bad as people saying " I know I'm bias"

 

[Bicco]

Brisbane Bears by the length of Bass Strait.
Any Freo or other supporter of other expansion franchises suggesting they got worse concessions are biased and blind to the truth of what went on.

100%. Although I'm not over the detail, it seems the Fitzroy merger made up for some of this.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Liam Jones for the pick that turned out to be Caleb Daniel.

Caleb Daniel with the pick that was received for letting go of Liam Jones?