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They just said on 360 that both players were room mates during the NZ trip. So something is very fishy here.
More Info comes out - The Worse it Looks for them sadly
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They just said on 360 that both players were room mates during the NZ trip. So something is very fishy here.
He can't coach but yeah, he speaks well.Well spoken from bucks on 360. I'm not a fan of him but the way he spoke about the 2 players still being part of the club is massive.
This is super hard to take accidently. Suspect one has lead the other. Keefe seemed more level headed. Josh Thomas being a fringe player with an injury history is a very likely candidate to be looking for ways to get his body right and a permanent spot in the team
I perhaps worded that wrongly.Good post. Can you expand on your last point (bolded)?
I perhaps worded that wrongly.
I mean unless they were eating horse meat, then it's extremely unlikely they got it through meat contamination. In fact, even if they were, I'm sure it would be unlikely.
Our players never tested positive. Why should they be named?Loves Bucks Shot at AFL,AFLPA and Essendon and Accused them of Hiding these sort of Problems and not naming names when they should
No. And I'm not sure I should comment further on why I don't plan to.Have you ever eaten a meat pie in New Zealand?
Robbo on 360 just says he doesnt know if he can believe thomas and keefe, oh but he can believe golden boy james hird after all the evidence is against him
Maybe they got what they thought were some eccies or some other rec drug and got this or something cut with this.
I agree ,if found guilty they need to go for goodFar out - I'm not trawling through 25 pages.
If you're wondering what the drug clenbuterol is, I'll brief you: It's a bronchodilator, which is basically the same as what's in an asthma puffer. However this particular version is made for race horses. The side effects are increased heart rate which aids in burning fat. It also promotes the use of stored fat to use as fuel rather than carbohydrates or glycogen stores. Those two side effects work in tandem to create a pretty potent fat burner for the human body, and therefore in sport, it's used as a fat burner rather than a bronchodilator. Been illegal for a very long time.
If you're wondering why the would want to take it: It's pretty simple. They wanted to reduce their skin folds quicker. With clenbuterol, you can effectively do the same amount of work but burn more calories, thanks to the increased heart rate and fat use, as mentioned above.
If you're wondering why they thought they could get away with it: I'm sorry but I don't have that answer for you. It's been illegal for a very long time. You can only source it through drug dealers and veterinarians. I'm willing to bet they got their clen from someone very dodgy.
If you're wondering what they should have taken: There are so many legal supplements they could have bought over the counter to aid in fat loss. Heck, I'd even go as far as taking a caffeine supplement the morning of skin fold testing. It will reduce water weight and help you come in leaner for your test.
I don't know what they were thinking, but they've got to go. They've sorely disappointed me and they've let the entire extended family of the Collingwood Football Club down. Good riddance to them both.
For the record, they didn't eat contaminated meat. Clenbuterol doesn't work like that. If they get off citing that, I'll be incredibly surprised.
There's an explanation that has some thought put into it!Maybe they got what they thought were some eccies or some other rec drug and got this or something cut with this.
There's an explanation that has some thought put into it!
Although, MDMA would probably show up in the tests too. And caffeine would be cheaper to cut in than clen.
But I dunno, maybe the dealer didn't even include the MDMA, just clen and caffeine. Ha.
Agreed. Ironically this could be the making of modern day Collingwood - how the Club is handling this so far speaks volumes about our values.The whole laughing stock thing is starting to piss me off. Why should anyone be laughing? Yes, many are the spirits who despise us, but this incident is about the integrity of the game. Collingwood has an opportunity to contribute to the integrity of the game, by following due process and then by taking whatever action is necessary to send the message that PED and other banned substances will not be tolerated at our club. The game demands nothing less, and we have the opportunity to rise to the occasion.
And anyway, who gives a rat's if they laugh? We might suffer the loss of two players to stupidity, and there'll be some bad press, but we'll move on and play football and hopefully play it well. We'll test our depth, and some players will meet the challenge with surprising gusto while others crumble, and all of this will help to build a foundation for the future. Let others laugh, and just march on FFS.
Why did your club self report something if they are not guilty.. I don't get why... For memory it was the club that broke the news, so why spend 3 years saying the opposite about itOur players never tested positive. Why should they be named?
Poor buggers...
What if they got the munchies and snuck out to the local chinese restaurant?
This is the issue I have. Essendon seem to be fighting the problem and creating a view that what happened at Windy Hill was acceptable and it is everyone that is plotting against the Bombers and no wrong doing internally of their club.Our players never tested positive. Why should they be named?
****, now where going to have to deal with Frost's shit kicking for another year.
I'm not sure what Tom Bell has got to do with this to be honest. What are you inferring exactly?I'm a bit worried about tom bell, any mail on if he was involved?
I know, and his superior defending and athletic ability to Keefe as well. However will we cope!