Tigers and Dogs you have done your club proud

[jacqui9]

You have to be stupid if you say Richmond should have done a Hawthorn this year..

We are a proud club, unlike Hawthorn.. and we play to win.

Plus, our youngest are on another level compared to MOST of the Hawthorn youngsters.

I dont think it gets much more delusional. But hey - what ever makes you feel better

 

[camsmith]

Winning games makes me feel better.

So i felt pretty good this year, how about you?

 

[mattyc2422]

Winning games makes me feel better.

So i felt pretty good this year, how about you?

Considering you guys were talking up finals before your typical mid year collapse, and ended up only finishing 2 spots above us, I wouldn't be too happy as a Tiger fan.

 

[CyberKev]

We are a proud club, unlike Hawthorn.. and we play to win.

The daftest statement you've ever made, Cammers.

How proud have you been over the past quarter of a century... How proud were you losing to us in the crunch wooden spoon game late last season?

Plus, our youngest are on another level compared to MOST of the Hawthorn youngsters.

Which ones?

Richmond = Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Hyde, Shulz, Pattison, Archibald, Raines, McGuane, Thursfield, Polo, Moore, Rodan, Hall.

Hawthorn = Hodge, Lewis, Franklin, Roughead, Dawson, Miller, Thurgood, Young, Ladson, Sewell, Murphy, Little, Brennan, Taylor.

Some posters clearly live in their own worlds.

 

[DirtyDogTIGERS]

Richmond = Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Hyde, Shulz, Pattison, Archibald, Raines, McGuane, Thursfield, Polo, Moore, Rodan, Hall.

YOU needa copy of afl lists

Richmond's 16 youngest: born 85/86/87 = Shulz, Roach hartigan Foley jackson, Raines, Tambling, Meyer, Pattison, Thursfield, Limbach Polo, Gilmour Archibald, McGuane, Deledio,

italica = untried

 

[Swifty_446]

Considering you guys were talking up finals before your typical mid year collapse, and ended up only finishing 2 spots above us, I wouldn't be too happy as a Tiger fan.

At least their season wasn't a complete collapse.

 

[CyberKev]

YOU needa copy of afl lists

Richmond's 16 youngest: born 85/86/87 = Shulz, Roach hartigan Foley jackson, Raines, Tambling, Meyer, Pattison, Thursfield, Limbach Polo, Gilmour Archibald, McGuane, Deledio,

italica = untried

I wasn't out to list all players by rote, nor to keep the youth qualifier to those born in or after 1985, I was merely proving Cams folly in suggesting Richmond's youngster's were by and large on a different plain to Hawthorns.

Of that grouping, only Deledio stands out against the top Hawk clump, with Tambling likely to surge in 2006.

 

[CyberKev]

At least their season wasn't a complete collapse.

True... Thanks largely to the presence and form of Richo. Richmond also had a lot of narrow wins, while Hawthorn had a lot of narrow losses.

In fairness, Western Bulldogs & Richmond have both finished the 3rd year of their full-on rebuilds while Hawthorn has completed the first of its.

Hawthorn currently looks better structured and balanced than either of the other two clubs did at the end of last season.

How the three clubs will be positioned at the end of next season is anyone's guess.

 

[2 jam donuts]

Considering you guys were talking up finals before your typical mid year collapse, and ended up only finishing 2 spots above us, I wouldn't be too happy as a Tiger fan.

I'm very happy with our year thanks Matty, especially round 21

In fairness, Western Bulldogs & Richmond have both finished the 3rd year of their full-on rebuilds while Hawthorn has completed the first of its.

Our rebuild, in the eyes of most Tiger fans, started at the end of last season, the only way from there was up, and we're on our way.

Hawthorn, Bulldogs and Tigers have got lots to look forward to next year.

 

[peejay]

Considering you guys were talking up finals before your typical mid year collapse, and ended up only finishing 2 spots above us, I wouldn't be too happy as a Tiger fan.

Those two spots equalled 5 wins.

But as a richmond fan what i take most away from this season is the way we played out the year. Unlike the last 3 seasons where we became an automatic win late in the year. Our last 8 games gave us three wins, a thumping by the saints, a shock loss against the blues (still hurts), and losses to:

Port @ Port where we came fron way back and pushed them to almost an upset win,

Freo @ Freo where i thought in field play we matched them and lost it in front of golas

Doggies @ Telstra which i thought we played well agaisnt the form team of the comp at the time losing by 12 points.

Geelong @ Geelong by a point when I thought we stuck to our game plan quite well.

We missed the 8 by six points (which actually makes the loss to the blues fractionally less painful).

Most will focus on the 7 - 2 start but we have had those starts before - I think the way we fought in the late part of the season shows that this is a different side to years gone past, or at least ie lead by a coach who has a fair idea about what is going on.

I would love to be there next week but when i think back to how i felt this time last year at least i will enjoy my summer.

I think we are one year behind the bulldogs in our development (in that we had one year of priority picks compared to two) what remains to be seen is who can improve on there weaknesses which i think is lack of talls for the doggies and lack of skilled finishers for the tigers. Both teams should be looking forward to next year.

 

[CyberKev]

Our rebuild, in the eyes of most Tiger fans, started at the end of last season, the only way from there was up, and we're on our way.

Doesn't work that way, I'm afraid, although I'm sure we'd all like to take a selective approach to past history.

Richmond's rebuild started in 2003 after missing the finals for a second successive year and hitting the bottom four for the second straight year.

 

[Punt_Road_Roar]

Doesn't work that way, I'm afraid, although I'm sure we'd all like to take a selective approach to past history.

Richmond's rebuild started in 2003 after missing the finals for a second successive year and hitting the bottom four for the second straight year.

maybe in your view

but to most Richmond people it could be argued it started AFTER the 2003 season when it was our first major clean out of its list. Meaning 2004 season was our first, 2005 being our second.

So it could really be argued that next year will be our 3rd year.

Anyhow this rebuilding arguement is all really a waste of time IMO.

1 year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years big deal. Truth is we have been rebuilding for 25 years proves nothing, likewise the hawks they have been rebuilding for 14 years.

Sure our lists look promising but it means jack $hit until they can prove otherwise.

 

[CyberKev]

Sure our lists look promising but it means jack $hit until they can prove otherwise.

I tend to agree.

You're either in the eight or you're nowhere.

 

[Captain Blood]

Richmond have been true to form.

And on a side note, good luck to Wayne Campbell in retirement. Will always remember his many finals performances at the MCG in the yellow&black.

Fluck you

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Well done to the Tiges and Bullies.

ON YET ANOTHER UNSUCCESSFUL SEPTEMBERLESS SEASON!

We improved by 6 wins, I dunno why you'd be a smartasse and discount that altogether. The Dogs went from years of crapness to being a bees ******** from the finals, and being very well placed for next year and beyond.

As a Dogs fan while dissapointed we missed out, I have been rapt from our season. We weren't competitive under Rohder, now while we aren't in the finals, our only loss in the last 6 weeks was a very unlucky 4 point loss, we've won as many as we lost and we have a % above 100

And if our captain and most important player didn't go down in round 6 we'd be playing a home final next week.

 

[peejay]

We improved by 6 wins, I dunno why you'd be a smartasse and discount that altogether. The Dogs went from years of crapness to being a bees ******** from the finals, and being very well placed for next year and beyond.

As a Dogs fan while dissapointed we missed out, I have been rapt from our season. We weren't competitive under Rohder, now while we aren't in the finals, our only loss in the last 6 weeks was a very unlucky 4 point loss, we've won as many as we lost and we have a % above 100

And if our captain and most important player didn't go down in round 6 we'd be playing a home final next week.

The game sold to sydney must also hurt like hell.

You guys were stiff.

 

[tigertRANCE]

Bulldogs have been collecting picks for half a decade so their climb up to 9th is hardly something to celebrate...

Richmond, on the other hand, did well given the state of their playing list. In the long run, however, they'd have been better served by investing in youth rather than stop-gap veterans like Mark Graham.

Agree totally Choota. We needed at least another year down the bottom and recruiting Graham, while i like the guy wasn't the right move. Should have used that pick for another youngster. The Hawks will have a very good list after this draft, overtaking the Tigers Unfortunately the system rewards mediocracy and the Hawks will be rewarded nicely again with picks 3 & 6 especially. I expect to see the Hawks improve massively; they already have a good list and if the odds for the Hawks making the 8 are over 4.50, i will jump on.

GO TIGES!!!

 

[LongBomb]

Are richmond supporters really that happy with their season?

After all their supposed promise and talk of top 4 finishes, they only ended up 4 places higher than last year.

 

[Captain Blood]

Are richmond supporters really that happy with their season?

After all their supposed promise and talk of top 4 finishes, they only ended up 4 places higher than last year.

no-one ever spoke of top 4 finishes, and 4 spots higher than last year is an improvement. No short term fixes, just long term goals.

 

[LongBomb]

I'm pretty sure Nathan Brown was talking up top 4 earlier in the year.

 

[itsintheblood]

Are richmond supporters really that happy with their season?

After all their supposed promise and talk of top 4 finishes, they only ended up 4 places higher than last year.

When comparing 2003 and 2004? Absolutely delighted. Considering we've lost 3 or 4 games by less than a kick or two, browny would have got us over the line and we could easily have ended up with 15 wins. Not bad for a side that was a basket case with 4 wins. At the end of the day, your mob only won 2 more games than us and you were premiership favourites before the season. I'd say cats fans would be a lot more disappointed this year than last.

 

[Swifty_446]

Are richmond supporters really that happy with their season?

After all their supposed promise and talk of top 4 finishes, they only ended up 4 places higher than last year.

Are Geelong supporters really that happy with their season?

After all their supposed promise and talk of top 4 finishes, they only ended up 2 places lower than last year.

 

[LongBomb]

IITB, you seem upset after yet another loss to the cats, but this thread was started to discuss Richmond & the Dogs.
What on earth does Geelong have to do with it?

If you are happy with 12th, fair enough. Will you be happy with 11th next year? It's still an 'improvement' right?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

I'm pretty sure Nathan Brown was talking up top 4 earlier in the year.

The position we were at the time of brown,s comment a top 4 was possible.
Big difference to say your aiming for a top 4 position at the start of the year.

 

[itsintheblood]

IITB, you seem upset after yet another loss to the cats, but this thread was started to discuss Richmond & the Dogs.
What on earth does Geelong have to do with it?

If you are happy with 12th, fair enough. Will you be happy with 11th next year? It's still an 'improvement' right?

You asked a question, I gave you an answer. And if your team plays like it did on the weekend you are in serious trouble this week.

And i reiterate, aside from missing out on september, I'm absolutely delighted with the way the team has performed this year. Comparing the difference in effort between round 1 and round 22 is a great example.